[Serie A] Inter Milan 1-0 Juventus [4th February, 2024 20:45 CET] (4 Viewers)

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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,559
As a whole team, they are better now
But player to player, i dont think any of us would agree if we sign them before they went to Inter

Tek vs Sommer

Bremer vs Acerbi
Gatti vs Pavard
Danilo vs Bastoni

Cambiasso vs Darmian
Kostic vs Di Marco

Rabiot vs Miki
Locatelli vs Calhanoglu
McKennie vs Barella

Yildiz vs Thuram
Vlahovic vs Lautaro

Acerbi, Darmian would get a lot of criticism when we linked to them. Calhanoglu also thought not good enough by some although he become free agent from Milan. Miki also wont be good acquisition for us if we done it from Roma. Thuram is a good Winger/ST but he also have some limitation if he played for attacking team which opposition crowded the box with defender and less space, I read some of the report of him in Bundesliga before.

But they as a team win against us last night. More fluid and attacking aproach from Inzaghi could be a decisive factor
Locatelli same as this season’s Calhanoglu? Kostic better than Di Marco? Lol
Show me an instance of Loca playing a pass like Calhanoglu did in the first half.
 

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Jul 2, 2006
18,781
Quality difference of players is minimal. Give this baboon to inter, it would have made them chase for 4th place instead. Would make Thuram a wingback and chastise Martinez for neglecting his defensive duties while moaning about how he is stealing minutes from Alexis Sanchez who is in good shape.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
28,175
Those would be my ratings. They're literally even in every department, lol.

Do they have more players on the bench they can pull from? Sure. But the strength of the best 11's are literally the same. And the argument from the other side is that Allegri isn't even getting the best out of all the players, whether it be due to injury or just his own incompetence.
if that's what you're thinking then we'll be fine with any other coach. inda will have a ~100 point season, so that's our realistic target next year. we have nothing to worry about.
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,470
Quality difference of players is minimal. Give this baboon to inter, it would have made them chase for 4th place instead. Would make Thuram a wingback and chastise Martinez for neglecting his defensive duties while moaning about how he is stealing minutes from Alexis Sanchez who is in good shape.
Dont bother repeating the obvious. These are the same people who think the difference between Sarri's juve and Allegri's juve is like the difference between 2005 Milan and present-day Milan.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,783
Why is everybody calling this Inter a superior team when the squad is nothing but average players who would have no place here a few years back? Talk about overrating.

They outplayed us tactically. They function better as a unit due to better tactics, not better players. That’s Inzaghi versus Allegri.

Fucking Darmian, Di Marco, Barella? Get the fuck out of here. The closest they have to a star would be Martinez who in the bigger picture is an average to good South American striker, nothing more.

Since Sarri our bar has been getting lower and lower and fans are just settling for the bare minimum. I expect more of a team of this caliber.

But sure let’s renew Allegri to maintain the status quo and this sometimes efficient but boring as fuck system and accept we became a team that fights for the 4th spot domestically and gets humiliated in Europe. Juventus is no more. Jj it is.
anytime someone says this team is superior to juve ask them if macabi, benfica, villareal and sevilla were superior to juve too?
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
59,249
Lets not kid ourselves, we can critique Allegri without underselling Inters individual quality.


Bastoni, Pavard, Barella, Hakan, Thuram/Lautaro are top level players this season. They are better then most of our counter parts except Vlahovic and Bremer. Even with healthy Chiesa, but he is rarely so anymore.


Mkhi is way more technical them most of our options too, despite his slow and old age. It works for him to play in attacking team. Depending on who you compare him with. But Rabiot is only dependable quality mid we have past season and half. Sorry I like Locatelli, but he wouldnt start in that Inter midfield, Hakan is defenitely better playmaker and player right now.

Di Marco is nothing special but he is easily better then this current Kostic, more technical and assertive in his wing despite being primarily a defender. this Kostic is far cry from last seasons one.


The rest of Inters players are replaceable spares (Sommer, Darmian, Acerbi etc).


Marotta is simply better then anyone we had since him at building teams. He is about to get Zielinski for free too which will be a clear upgrade on Mkhi.
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
1,243
Del Piero: "I feel sorry for Kenan Yildiz, he stretches out his arms as if saying: it's only me and Vlahovic here." Juventus struggling more to move the ball fast. Allegri has chosen unity, that's the reality. "
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
32,407
For Serie A level, Inter have some top level players for sure but we are honestly not that far off from them. Some of the players we signed over the past couple of years were stars in their previous teams.

Biggest difference is they have a good core group of players and as a result, they're able to elevate the level of some of the mediocre players in their squad.

Put guys like Sommer, Acerbi, Darmian, Calhanoglu, Mkhitaryan, Di Marco etc in JJ and folks would be criticizing Giuntoli for not providing Allegro a decent team to achieve results.

We have gotten ourselves into a Union level rut over the past few years where we have been unable to work things around with available resources which happens to be better than most teams in the league. Things are definitely improving though and hope we continue to see the upward trend.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
18,177
As a whole team, they are better now
But player to player, i dont think any of us would agree if we sign them before they went to Inter

Tek vs Sommer

Bremer vs Acerbi
Gatti vs Pavard
Danilo vs Bastoni

Cambiasso vs Darmian
Kostic vs Di Marco

Rabiot vs Miki
Locatelli vs Calhanoglu
McKennie vs Barella

Yildiz vs Thuram
Vlahovic vs Lautaro

Acerbi, Darmian would get a lot of criticism when we linked to them. Calhanoglu also thought not good enough by some although he become free agent from Milan. Miki also wont be good acquisition for us if we done it from Roma. Thuram is a good Winger/ST but he also have some limitation if he played for attacking team which opposition crowded the box with defender and less space, I read some of the report of him in Bundesliga before.

But they as a team win against us last night. More fluid and attacking aproach from Inzaghi could be a decisive factor
Thats the thing - a player must compliment the other as its a team`s game.
Quality wise - Many base their opinion about quality on results. While I agree it does mean something, I rather look at it differently like maybe a change of style would be an amazing fix (for example).

That being said - Tek is better than Sommer, Bremer is better than Acerbi but both Pavard and Bastoni are miles above Gatti and Danilo.
Cambiasso is definitely better than Darmian but Di Marco is twice the player Kostic is
Rabiot beats Miki
Locatelli although not showing it for me is better than Calhanoglu.
McK Barella - Easily Barella even if McK has his moments.
Yildiz is a fantastic kid but he is just a kid. So right now Thuram gets the nod (would change fast if Yildiz keeps on building his confidence)
Vlahovic Lautaro - Look I like Vlahovic, I was watching him while he was at Fiorentina and even before his goal breaking season. That being said Lautaro is simply a king at Inter and one of his best attributes is decision making which is something Vlahovic really lacks. So for now Lautaro is definitely better.

Overall quality is more or less the same but we are less balanced and only started to play football recently while Inter are well oiled, just look at how fast they go on the counter.

Quality wise we need reinforcement in some positions and we could even poach them to the Scudetto next year. As for this year - We are potentially at -7 while they are obviously the better team for now - It would take a miracle for them to lose it now.

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Locatelli same as this season’s Calhanoglu? Kostic better than Di Marco? Lol
Show me an instance of Loca playing a pass like Calhanoglu did in the first half.
Kostic better than Di Marco is really a good one.
Anyone saying this means he never really saw Inter play and how influential he is to their game.
 
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Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
13,369
Lets not kid ourselves, we can critique Allegri without underselling Inters individual quality.


Bastoni, Pavard, Barella, Hakan, Thuram/Lautaro are top level players this season. They are better then most of our counter parts except Vlahovic and Bremer. Even with healthy Chiesa, but he is rarely so anymore.


Mkhi is way more technical them most of our options too, despite his slow and old age. It works for him to play in attacking team. Depending on who you compare him with. But Rabiot is only dependable quality mid we have past season and half. Sorry I like Locatelli, but he wouldnt start in that Inter midfield, Hakan is defenitely better playmaker and player right now.

Di Marco is nothing special but he is easily better then this current Kostic, more technical and assertive in his wing despite being primarily a defender. this Kostic is far cry from last seasons one.


The rest of Inters players are replaceable spares (Sommer, Darmian, Acerbi etc).


Marotta is simply better then anyone we had since him at building teams. He is about to get Zielinski for free too which will be a clear upgrade on Mkhi.
The clear difference for me is how well the Inter squad is built. The players compliment each other well. Thuram and Lautaro is a really well balanced front two. The midfield of Calhanoglu, Barella and Miki works very well. All 3 can pass, run, have good technique and a goal threat. Compare that to our mid, Rabiot can run but isn't a good passer. Locatelli can defend well but can't pass or run or be a goal threat. McKennie can run but isn't a good passer or a goal threat. We don't have a single creative mid.

Their defenders are are good players. They don't have a standout defender like Bremer but it is well balanced.

Our team feels a bit shoehorned into a 3-5-2 rather than an ideal fit. It all comes back to Marotta doing an excellent job.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
59,249
Pretty much. At the end of the day it's litterally about Marrotta. He knows what he is doing and how to build quality teams, even with lesser budget.


And we are in our banter era hoping for youth players to save us. Because we financially wrecked ourselves with incompetence for many years, that the highly sought after GM we got now can't sign anything besides more youth/younger players, mostly for next gen team.


Inter will sign Zielinski who will just quietly improve them. While we wonder for another half season, if our best midfielder, the very mediocre Rabiot, will stay or go, and if we will spend our entire limited budget trying to replace him.
 
Aug 2, 2005
3,969
The result was pretty much expected..
I actually was expecting a heavier defeat..


Our game style and mentality were very bad..

The moment we started to bring results.. our opponents' approach to our game became different
Before, they would let us take the ball and pressure us for mistakes, and it almost paid off for them..
This season, we are playing counter game, and this has served us good so far, and you could see the opponents approach to us is different as if they bending over knowing that it is difficult to score against us and if they just park the bus we would score..

This was never going to work out vs. Inter/organized teams.





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JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
72,249
Overall, this forum is pretty terrible at rating players. A lot of bias and people are clearly afraid to say "I don't know," so they'll just parrot opinions of others.
I keep reading on football sites about how Shalanoloo is one of the best midfielders in the game right now, come on Tuz and he's the scrub player from years ago. Seems like he has peaked late. Maybe he's just a role player who is suiting great coaching. It starts depending on your narrative and angle.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
29,594
I keep reading on football sites about how Shalanoloo is one of the best midfielders in the game right now, come on Tuz and he's the scrub player from years ago. Seems like he has peaked late. Maybe he's just a role player who is suiting great coaching. It starts depending on your narrative and angle.
He consistently got a good amount of goals and assists every year though, he was clearly never shit. Berardi is another that everyone likes to shit on, pretty much every season is highly productive. Insigne was another, I remember the latter two for obvious reasons. Remember "Crapandowski?"
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,783
I keep reading on football sites about how Shalanoloo is one of the best midfielders in the game right now, come on Tuz and he's the scrub player from years ago. Seems like he has peaked late. Maybe he's just a role player who is suiting great coaching. It starts depending on your narrative and angle.
stats don't tell whole story. 9 of the 11 goals have been penalties and 2 of 3 assists were corners. he's a set piece specialist and i would 100 percent have in team over locatelli but i wouldn't have him as first option.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,397
Pretty much. At the end of the day it's litterally about Marrotta. He knows what he is doing and how to build quality teams, even with lesser budget.


And we are in our banter era hoping for youth players to save us. Because we financially wrecked ourselves with incompetence for many years, that the highly sought after GM we got now can't sign anything besides more youth/younger players, mostly for next gen team.


Inter will sign Zielinski who will just quietly improve them. While we wonder for another half season, if our best midfielder, the very mediocre Rabiot, will stay or go, and if we will spend our entire limited budget trying to replace him.
Di Marco, Barella, Lautaro, Bastoni are superb players that deserve to be at top level clubs. Milan has Leao and Theo. Napoli has Kvara and Osimhen of this level. I can see them easily thriving at City, or Pool or Madrid. I'd raid them if I had United money.

Sadly Chiesa and Vlahovic's development has been stunted for so long or they would be of similar class. I have hope for Bremer but its hard to say how he'd do when his team is not defending deep 100% of the time.
 

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