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Which Serie A fantasy are you playing, the official one? I might give it a go next season.
This year I've been focusing on EPL fantasy (the guys at work only watch EPL). I'm currently winning my work mini-league.
This year I've been focusing on EPL fantasy (the guys at work only watch EPL). I'm currently winning my work mini-league.
only in Russia there are so many crazies watching Italy instead of the popular Premier League
At one point, in round 16, Roma were 18 pts behind the 4th placed team, and now they're equal on pts 
Back then Roma had 16 pts, and the 4th placed Fiorentina had 34.
Quite the comeback, and imo this motivation from the opportunity to achieve this miracle is what's gonna win them top4 eventually.
Back then Roma had 16 pts, and the 4th placed Fiorentina had 34.
Quite the comeback, and imo this motivation from the opportunity to achieve this miracle is what's gonna win them top4 eventually.
It's painful to think about it.
But hit me with it anyway.
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There is gonna be a mini-table. We're yet to play the second match with Lazio, so that's yet to be decided. If Lazio win or if it's a draw, and it's between us, Roma, and Lazio, Roma win the mini table. If we win, we win the mini-tale.
If it's Juve-Roma-Bologna, then Bologna win the mini-table.
If it's Juve-Lazio-Bologna, then it also depends on the result of Lazio-Juve. If Lazio win, then they also win the mini table. If it's a draw or a Juve win, we win the mini-table.
If it's Roma-Lazio-Bologna, then Bologna win the mini-table.
If it's Juve-Roma-Bologna, then Bologna win the mini-table.
If it's Juve-Lazio-Bologna, then it also depends on the result of Lazio-Juve. If Lazio win, then they also win the mini table. If it's a draw or a Juve win, we win the mini-table.
If it's Roma-Lazio-Bologna, then Bologna win the mini-table.
https://x.com/SuperflyVideo/status/1919288841673883666
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We're in a simulation, never mind
Motta will come soon, then Allegri will replace him. It's just a matrix.
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We're in a simulation, never mind
Motta will come soon, then Allegri will replace him. It's just a matrix.
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here are seven more arrests in the inda curva
l'espresso aren't fucking around, the title is already pretty explicit: https://lespresso.it/c/lorenzo-stas...o-inter-zanetti-ndrangheta-doppia-curva/54068
Ultras investigation, for the judges there was a "relationship" between Inter and leading members of the Curva Nord, represented by Bellocco
In the new branch of the Double Curve investigation, there are not only parking and usury businesses. The name of Zanetti (not involved in the investigation) also emerges. Beretta also spoke of a connection with the Inter vice-president
There are not only further details on the parking business that revolved around San Siro. And there are not only the double-zero interest rates – sometimes up to 800 percent – that the ultra leaders of Inter and Milan, with the 'ndrangheta clans behind them, demanded for their usurious loans. In the 198 pages of the new order from the Milan prosecutor's office in the context of the Doppia curva investigation, which last September wiped out the leaders of the organized Milanese fan groups, and which has now led to seven more arrests, there are unpublished elements that could further embarrass the position of the Inter club . The investigating judge Domenico Santoro writes that "between the leading figures of the Curva Nord (the Nerazzurri one, ed. ), in this case represented by Antonio Bellocco , and the Inter club " there was an "intercurrent relationship" .
Antonio Bellocco is not just any character, but the scion of the 'ndrangheta of the homonymous clan killed in Cernusco sul Naviglio by the Inter ultra boss, Andrea Beretta , who in the meantime has become a collaborator of justice and, among other things, has uncovered the dynamics and responsibilities behind the murder of the historic leader of the Nerazzurri fans, Vittorio Boiocchi , killed by gunshots in October 2022. Inter and Milan have always denied any relationship with the Calabrian clans and only two days ago, on May 3, they decided to settle before the sports justice system, choosing to pay a fine of 70 and 30 thousand euros respectively. But what emerges from the new documents of the investigation coordinated by prosecutors Paolo Storari and Sara Ombra could worsen the position of Inter and that of the personal vice president, the star Javier Zanetti ( not involved in the investigation, ed.).
The name of Zanetti
The name of the former footballer appears in reference to an event involving the business activity of Davide Scarfone , arrested today – May 5 – and believed by investigators to be close to Bellocco. The documents show how the latter said "he had received a message from Zanetti at the end of the event and wanted to go eat at his restaurant", El Patio del Gaucho, in via Caldera 3. At that event, which was held on November 17, 2023, "the Inter manager had actually participated, at Bellocco's express request and to 'make Scarfone look good'. From the dialogue - we read further in the documents - Scarfone's satisfaction with Zanetti's participation was evident and how the latter had addressed the same organizer, praising him in front of 400 people". There is no doubt that "this story - writes the investigating judge - represents a significant piece of evidence regarding the relationship between the leaders of the Inter Curva Nord and the Nerazzurri club".
Beretta himself had already spoken, during the interrogation on January 21, of the "friendship relationship" he had with the Inter flag Zanetti. The Nerazzurri vice-president, the former ultras leader told the investigators, "made this boy here (Scarfone, ed. ) who was a friend of Antonio (Bellocco, ed. ) look good ".
(google translated)
just to clarify, the sporting process with the ridiculous penalties after the plea bargain, and the civil case that is still ongoing are separate and partially independent. the civil case can be dragged for years.
Ultras investigation, for the judges there was a "relationship" between Inter and leading members of the Curva Nord, represented by Bellocco
In the new branch of the Double Curve investigation, there are not only parking and usury businesses. The name of Zanetti (not involved in the investigation) also emerges. Beretta also spoke of a connection with the Inter vice-president
There are not only further details on the parking business that revolved around San Siro. And there are not only the double-zero interest rates – sometimes up to 800 percent – that the ultra leaders of Inter and Milan, with the 'ndrangheta clans behind them, demanded for their usurious loans. In the 198 pages of the new order from the Milan prosecutor's office in the context of the Doppia curva investigation, which last September wiped out the leaders of the organized Milanese fan groups, and which has now led to seven more arrests, there are unpublished elements that could further embarrass the position of the Inter club . The investigating judge Domenico Santoro writes that "between the leading figures of the Curva Nord (the Nerazzurri one, ed. ), in this case represented by Antonio Bellocco , and the Inter club " there was an "intercurrent relationship" .
Antonio Bellocco is not just any character, but the scion of the 'ndrangheta of the homonymous clan killed in Cernusco sul Naviglio by the Inter ultra boss, Andrea Beretta , who in the meantime has become a collaborator of justice and, among other things, has uncovered the dynamics and responsibilities behind the murder of the historic leader of the Nerazzurri fans, Vittorio Boiocchi , killed by gunshots in October 2022. Inter and Milan have always denied any relationship with the Calabrian clans and only two days ago, on May 3, they decided to settle before the sports justice system, choosing to pay a fine of 70 and 30 thousand euros respectively. But what emerges from the new documents of the investigation coordinated by prosecutors Paolo Storari and Sara Ombra could worsen the position of Inter and that of the personal vice president, the star Javier Zanetti ( not involved in the investigation, ed.).
The name of Zanetti
The name of the former footballer appears in reference to an event involving the business activity of Davide Scarfone , arrested today – May 5 – and believed by investigators to be close to Bellocco. The documents show how the latter said "he had received a message from Zanetti at the end of the event and wanted to go eat at his restaurant", El Patio del Gaucho, in via Caldera 3. At that event, which was held on November 17, 2023, "the Inter manager had actually participated, at Bellocco's express request and to 'make Scarfone look good'. From the dialogue - we read further in the documents - Scarfone's satisfaction with Zanetti's participation was evident and how the latter had addressed the same organizer, praising him in front of 400 people". There is no doubt that "this story - writes the investigating judge - represents a significant piece of evidence regarding the relationship between the leaders of the Inter Curva Nord and the Nerazzurri club".
Beretta himself had already spoken, during the interrogation on January 21, of the "friendship relationship" he had with the Inter flag Zanetti. The Nerazzurri vice-president, the former ultras leader told the investigators, "made this boy here (Scarfone, ed. ) who was a friend of Antonio (Bellocco, ed. ) look good ".
(google translated)
just to clarify, the sporting process with the ridiculous penalties after the plea bargain, and the civil case that is still ongoing are separate and partially independent. the civil case can be dragged for years.
A couple of days ago, I meant to ask your opinion on something but forgot. I saw Football Italia quoting a Tuttosport article, so I checked the original. Tuttosport argued that Inzaghi and Calhanoglu didn’t even deserve that one-match ban because, according to them, they did nothing serious at all. They compared their case to Agnelli’s and claimed it was essentially the same, only that his punishment was draconian.
Their point, as I understood it, isn’t that Inter were being favored or treated better than they should be, but that Agnelli, and by extension, Juve, were punished far more harshly than they deserved.
Honestly, I kind of agree, even though I know that you don't. Especially after Agnelli declared war on UEFA and lost, we’ve been screwed over more than once.
P.S: I found the article: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/cal...differenze_tra_inzaghi_calhanoglu_e_agnelli/4
"Simone Inzaghi and Hakan Çalhanoğlu do not deserve a harsher punishment. In fact, they might not even deserve a one-match ban. They were naive in engaging with the fans, but they - like almost all coaches and players - are caught in uncomfortable situations where it’s hard to come out unscathed, and the goal is to get hurt as little as possible, because the relationship between clubs and ultras is a complex and dirty mechanism. The problem isn’t the one-match ban - the problem is the twelve months and all the other ‘small’ differences."
Their point, as I understood it, isn’t that Inter were being favored or treated better than they should be, but that Agnelli, and by extension, Juve, were punished far more harshly than they deserved.
Honestly, I kind of agree, even though I know that you don't. Especially after Agnelli declared war on UEFA and lost, we’ve been screwed over more than once.
P.S: I found the article: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/cal...differenze_tra_inzaghi_calhanoglu_e_agnelli/4
"Simone Inzaghi and Hakan Çalhanoğlu do not deserve a harsher punishment. In fact, they might not even deserve a one-match ban. They were naive in engaging with the fans, but they - like almost all coaches and players - are caught in uncomfortable situations where it’s hard to come out unscathed, and the goal is to get hurt as little as possible, because the relationship between clubs and ultras is a complex and dirty mechanism. The problem isn’t the one-match ban - the problem is the twelve months and all the other ‘small’ differences."
tuttosport are being very nice here. the two situations aren't fully comparable because of one fact: juventus and agnelli reported our own ultras, while inda denied any connection with them until they were presented hard evidence, when they threw in the victim card
yet agnelli, then juventus president, got a 1 year suspension (figc prosecutor asked for 2 year ban, jury said 1 year, reduced to half a year on appeal), while marotta, current inda president, pictured multiple times with literal mafiosi, was not even prosecuted
what zanetti, inzaghi or calhanoglu deserve is an other story. you won't find anything similar on agnelli:
if you want to read just one of many, many articles: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.il...o_chi_e_news_biglietti_champions-8385530.html
executive summary: ultras called inzaghi (they had his number), they asked for 200 tickets, inzaghi didn't tell them to fuck off as he should have, but told them that he'll ask marotta and zanetti for the tickets.
NOTHING SIMILAR was going on between agnelli and the ultras
inda even hired the sister of a ndrangheta member to take care of the hospitality relations within the club: https://www.lettera43.it/inter-mafia-ultras-sorella-marco-ferdico-gloria-rosa-hospitality-lavora/
anyway, pointless to post every article there is about this case. for me it's crystal clear that the two cases are not comparable, and i cannot explain how and why marotta walks unharmed if there's no systematic corruption that protects him. if it happened at siena or bologna, odds are their president would have been banned. agnelli was banned for much less already. feel free to make your own conclusions.
yet agnelli, then juventus president, got a 1 year suspension (figc prosecutor asked for 2 year ban, jury said 1 year, reduced to half a year on appeal), while marotta, current inda president, pictured multiple times with literal mafiosi, was not even prosecuted
what zanetti, inzaghi or calhanoglu deserve is an other story. you won't find anything similar on agnelli:
if you want to read just one of many, many articles: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.il...o_chi_e_news_biglietti_champions-8385530.html
executive summary: ultras called inzaghi (they had his number), they asked for 200 tickets, inzaghi didn't tell them to fuck off as he should have, but told them that he'll ask marotta and zanetti for the tickets.
NOTHING SIMILAR was going on between agnelli and the ultras
inda even hired the sister of a ndrangheta member to take care of the hospitality relations within the club: https://www.lettera43.it/inter-mafia-ultras-sorella-marco-ferdico-gloria-rosa-hospitality-lavora/
anyway, pointless to post every article there is about this case. for me it's crystal clear that the two cases are not comparable, and i cannot explain how and why marotta walks unharmed if there's no systematic corruption that protects him. if it happened at siena or bologna, odds are their president would have been banned. agnelli was banned for much less already. feel free to make your own conclusions.
What's the craic with the Marcus Thuram rapist story?
It's all over Twitter but I'm out so can't read it properly.
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https://x.com/livesfoot/status/1919462623055122611?t=oTuSmxvaek4u_8htOo_pOg&s=19
It's all over Twitter but I'm out so can't read it properly.
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@Alen fyi:
https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2025/05/05/inchiesta-ultras-gip-rapporti-bellocco-inter-zanetti/
https://www.liberoquotidiano.it/new...r-zanetti-avvisati-intercettazione-clamorosa/
zanetti got away with a ~15k euro fine so far. again, he attended events after getting invitation from ndrangheta ultras, praised one to make him look better, he was friends with the guy who's now a pentito, and warned ultras about police surveillance.
and so far figc agreed to hand him a 15k fine after the plea bargain.
for literally collaborating with the calabrese mafia.
btw as stated in the calcioefinanza article, 7 new arrests happened lately, so figc can always ask for the documentation of those cases. i wouldn't hold my breath though
https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2025/05/05/inchiesta-ultras-gip-rapporti-bellocco-inter-zanetti/
https://www.liberoquotidiano.it/new...r-zanetti-avvisati-intercettazione-clamorosa/
zanetti got away with a ~15k euro fine so far. again, he attended events after getting invitation from ndrangheta ultras, praised one to make him look better, he was friends with the guy who's now a pentito, and warned ultras about police surveillance.
and so far figc agreed to hand him a 15k fine after the plea bargain.
for literally collaborating with the calabrese mafia.
btw as stated in the calcioefinanza article, 7 new arrests happened lately, so figc can always ask for the documentation of those cases. i wouldn't hold my breath though
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