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.zero

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Cuck league with racist undertones.

Do you hate black people? Do you want to hear racist chants and experience territorial discrimination at games on a weekly basis? Do you want to consistently damage and undermine your best club under the false pretense of creating equity and balance?

We offer you the unique opportunity to be part of a once in a lifetime experience, where own goals are not only limited to the pitch,

Come join us and be a part of Serie A Made In Italy - discrimination done right.
It would mean more viewership and new fans if they just owned the whole pro-racism thing.

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s4tch

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    Lion

    King of Tuz
    Jan 24, 2007
    36,185
    #84
    Cuck league with racist undertones.

    Do you hate black people? Do you want to hear racist chants and experience territorial discrimination at games on a weekly basis? Do you want to consistently damage and undermine your best club under the false pretense of creating equity and balance?

    We offer you the unique opportunity to be part of a once in a lifetime experience, where own goals are not only limited to the pitch,

    Come join us and be a part of Serie A Made In Italy - discrimination done right.
    It would mean more viewership and new fans if they just owned the whole pro-racism thing.

    cup half full approach
    americans and spanish people: shut up and take my money!
     

    s4tch

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    Mar 23, 2015
    33,522
    #93
    Whoever has a higher chance of going bankrupt and embarrass Serie A further
    bari it is then, southern clubs are poor

    then again, there's inda: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/sports/soccer/champions-league-final-inter-milan.html

    this article could have never been written and published in italy. incredible how their financial problems are somehow always overlooked in italy. and that's entirely the press' fault. they can talk about juventus all day long, everybody buys their bs even if the news are irrelevant. so they can keep helping inda in the background. when they didn't pay the wages after covid, gravina ran to their rescue - and they are busy punishing juventus for paying more than they agreed on. utter shithole of a league.

    this is easily the best commisso moment ever:

     

    Ronn

    Mes Que Un Club
    May 3, 2012
    20,854
    #95
    bari it is then, southern clubs are poor

    then again, there's inda: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/sports/soccer/champions-league-final-inter-milan.html

    this article could have never been written and published in italy. incredible how their financial problems are somehow always overlooked in italy. and that's entirely the press' fault. they can talk about juventus all day long, everybody buys their bs even if the news are irrelevant. so they can keep helping inda in the background. when they didn't pay the wages after covid, gravina ran to their rescue - and they are busy punishing juventus for paying more than they agreed on. utter shithole of a league.

    this is easily the best commisso moment ever:

    What’s commisso saying?
    BTW we had this conversation before about Prisma, but I think Juve were really at fault. The issue is that we pretended that the players are forgoing a portion of their salary if the season does not resume, but we were always going to pay them regardless. Plusvalenza case was obviously horseshit.
     

    s4tch

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    Mar 23, 2015
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    What’s commisso saying?
    he's mentioning the ny times article, and as a contrast, mocking gds as a great, great journal who painted zhang a hero who arrived from china to win trophies and stuff. his point is that it's ridiculous that it has to be a murican article that lets people know about inda's deep lying issues, while gds paints a false image. i think commisso is a clown but this rant is somehow 100% spot on. (schira tweeted a short quote from him, see europa league thread, i posted it earlier today.)

    as for the salary case, the players did gave up on 1/3 of their salaries as they didn't play 1/3 of the matches during the 2019/20 financial year, and when the season resumed at the beginning of the next financial year, the players did play those games. so "the players are forgoing a portion of their salary if the season does not resume" - and the season actually resumed during the next financial year, and those payments were accounted for that season.

    honestly i have no idea how and what mistakes juventus made, there was very little and superficial information about it. but what some articles mentioned (juve made off the book payments to players duh) is obviously bullshit, that money was accounted. the potential problem is that it was accounted as bonuses (instead of salaries which based on my knowledge of the local acts, might be indeed against some rules). i can see a similar situation that is solved with 100% legal methods. books were audited, the league accepted our books for the next season, etc. it might just be a similar witch hunt to the plusvalenza case.
     

    Ronn

    Mes Que Un Club
    May 3, 2012
    20,854
    #98
    he's mentioning the ny times article, and as a contrast, mocking gds as a great, great journal who painted zhang a hero who arrived from china to win trophies and stuff. his point is that it's ridiculous that it has to be a murican article that lets people know about inda's deep lying issues, while gds paints a false image. i think commisso is a clown but this rant is somehow 100% spot on. (schira tweeted a short quote from him, see europa league thread, i posted it earlier today.)

    as for the salary case, the players did gave up on 1/3 of their salaries as they didn't play 1/3 of the matches during the 2019/20 financial year, and when the season resumed at the beginning of the next financial year, the players did play those games. so "the players are forgoing a portion of their salary if the season does not resume" - and the season actually resumed during the next financial year, and those payments were accounted for that season.

    honestly i have no idea how and what mistakes juventus made, there was very little and superficial information about it. but what some articles mentioned (juve made off the book payments to players duh) is obviously bullshit, that money was accounted. the potential problem is that it was accounted as bonuses (instead of salaries which based on my knowledge of the local acts, might be indeed against some rules). i can see a similar situation that is solved with 100% legal methods. books were audited, the league accepted our books for the next season, etc. it might just be a similar witch hunt to the plusvalenza case.
    What we did wrong was signaling that we negotiate with the players IF the season resumes but we had an agreement with the players to pay them anyway. We’re a public company and that’s light market manipulation.
     
    Apr 9, 2015
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    #99
    No European prices for Italian clubs but they all got some serious amount of money for their campaigns: Inter, Milan, Napoli, Roma and Fiorentina (for they have a low budget). We have to be careful to not lose our position in top 4 if we sell our star players and being terrorised by Allegri. I think Roma and Inter will make 1/2 big signings. Crapoli never did and Milan get only 50m from RedBird :lol:
     
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