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.zero

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oh look, an alternative table to discuss. napoli and juve way above their expected points, roma and verona way below xp


btw that's something that always made the winning juve teams special: we were able to win close encounters. remember the last second wins against lazio multiple times, toro derby with pirlo's long range shot, stuff like this rarely happens to shit teams. so kudos to napoli, they are lucky, but they are working hard to earn that luck. we need to do much better
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MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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oh look, an alternative table to discuss. napoli and juve way above their expected points, roma and verona way below xp


btw that's something that always made the winning juve teams special: we were able to win close encounters. remember the last second wins against lazio multiple times, toro derby with pirlo's long range shot, stuff like this rarely happens to shit teams. so kudos to napoli, they are lucky, but they are working hard to earn that luck. we need to do much better
I wonder how they calculate a wrongful offside that takes 2 points from us. It's probably recorded as a non action ffs.
 

Strickland

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I like xG as a metric and it makes sense if you take into account its shortcomings. Imo its the single best data point to compare goalies over a season or to see which attackers are most effective from which positions etc.

But calculating xPoints from xG is just a step too far, too many assumptions for it to be useful.
 

s4tch

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I wonder how they calculate a wrongful offside that takes 2 points from us. It's probably recorded as a non action ffs.
imo that wouldn't change too much, we :gsol:won:gsol: that game on xg (and logically on xp) anyway

i'm not great in this alternative universe of x-stuff so i might be wrong
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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Serie A has allegedly announced that the way Extra time has been applied at the World Cup will be coming to Serie A.


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This rule change is supposedly happening soon and mid-season, not at the start of the next season.
 

Boksic

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Serie A has allegedly announced that the way Extra time has been applied at the World Cup will be coming to Serie A.


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This rule change is supposedly happening soon and mid-season, not at the start of the next season.
Watch it get applied when we are winning by a goal and not when we are chasing a game.
 

Knowah

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Jan 28, 2013
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Watch it get applied when we are winning by a goal and not when we are chasing a game.
Exactly my issue with this.

Leaves far too much up to the refs. They already have too much power and we've seen how something as simple as VAR has been gross in its implementation. Now add this and it just seems rife for mistakes, issues, and we're talking players running for an additional 12-18 minutes per match. Definitely makes subs more valuable if you have depth as a club.

And I'm friendly to the idea that this should mean players flop and flail around less but that isn't going anywhere until yellow cards are given out with impunity. Just like how approaching and speaking to the ref was supposed to be stopped with yellows and yet it is very rarely enforced.
 
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