Serie A 2021-22 (51 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

https://football-italia.net/commisso-hits-out-at-inter-and-juve-for-not-playing-by-rules/

How many times is this numpty going to say the same thing? Just sell us Vlahovic already lol.

I checked and he said the same thing on 19th September. If our employees agree to defer wages what business is it of Fiorentina?

 

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[X Æ A-12]

Commisso is the biggest loser in Serie A and that's a competitive field. At least De Laurentis sticks to his guns, no matter how insane he might be, Commisso pisses and moans about juve then sells players to us anyway

 

[s4tch]

did juve even pay the wages with any delay though. i don't remember anything on it. it might have still happened, so let me know if i missed something. even inda managed to pay the wages just in time iirc. they left it very late and had severe liquidity issues, but never actually broke the rules. and if commisso has a problem, then why not turn to the competent figc body then? the press won't punish juve or inda.

guy is just doing some fan service as a deflection. he can't hold on to his most valuable asset, that's not the best topic on fiorentia, is it.

we're so gonna steal his players

 

[campionesidd]

Commisso is the biggest loser in Serie A and that's a competitive field. At least De Laurentis sticks to his guns, no matter how insane he might be, Commisso pisses and moans about juve then sells players to us anyway

Sorry mate, my Juve bias makes me like Commisso a lot more than de Lamentiis

 

[The Quazis]

You could say the same for any league, but the major investment is a pipe dream, especially for that number of teams. PL is where the money is and money attracts money, as well as prestige. The PL is attracting the big front end money dick wavers and Serie A gets the wannabes. Maybe a huge investment at one club could attract more, but it's no guarantee of success. Monaco followed on from PSG but they have not challenged at all.

PL was on its way before Abramovich arrived because they created a successful model based on the American one, and there are natural advantages in being an English language league. Also having a domestic powerhouse like BT creating a duopoly with Sky Sports for the rights in the past 10 years have pushed the money through the roof, and now you have the big international mega corporations like Amazon getting involved, there is no stopping it for the next decade at least. They got ahead of everyone else with their international reach.

Generally, I agree with everything you say. However, if the Saudis decide to purchase Inter then that major investment becomes a reality. If Juventus could keep up with the subsidized Inter we would be observing a very interesting rivalry similar to the one we witnessed with Real and Barcelona in Spain recently. It could also be a driving force for the whole league.

I don't think it would be that difficult for Serie A to match the success of EPL. As I said before, Italians are very good at football and we could witness that during the Euros. I believe it applies to club football as well and with a better financial backing Italian clubs would definitely challenge the English in Europe.

If the trend of investing in football continues, some of that money will inevitably come to Italy as the supply in UK won't be enough. According to Forbes there is 2.7k billionaires in the world with the net worth of $13.1 trillion USD.

Italy is a very prestigious destination for people with money and it would not surprise me if some of them wanted to invest in cities like Milan or Rome.

 

[Ventus]

The revenues EPL generates haven't been that superior to other leagues in the past though.
Didn't EPL become so attractive because foreign investors invested heavily in Chelsea and City adding two top teams to Liverpool, United and Arsenal? Five teams generating so much interest brought demand to the whole league which made them rich.
I believe it could be similar with Serie A if we saw a major investment in teams like Milan, Inter, Roma or Lazio.

I agree with this. At one point it was only Man Utd who compared to the rest.

 

[Mokku]

English fans are much more committed to their clubs and in return, the clubs have great stadia and facilities. If you look at the Championship, they sell out and they promote it so much. Winners of the play off will make £100M+ from a season in the EPL, £250M+ if they can stay up for the second season. The whole infrastructure is better built and a couple of oil rich clubs won't change things in Italy. The English FA actually help clubs not like the Italian system who do absolutely nothing.

 

[Dostoevsky]

English fans are much more committed to their clubs and in return, the clubs have great stadia and facilities. If you look at the Championship, they sell out and they promote it so much. Winners of the play off will make £100M+ from a season in the EPL, £250M+ if they can stay up for the second season. The whole infrastructure is better built and a couple of oil rich clubs won't change things in Italy. The English FA actually help clubs not like the Italian system who do absolutely nothing.

Such things are not normal imo. Even if they do promote it and sell their tickets, the money in their league is way above anything normal. I don't think it's much up to Italian system. They sure are corrupt (like everyone else) but such things don't generate profit nor hold much of interest outside of stadiums. Nobody would really cast and take huge interest in Serie B. Hell, even Serie A is falling apart.

 

[DutchJuventino]

Lazio has a sponsordeal with Binance for 30 million in 2 years. For first since long time they have a shirt sponsor. Those crypto-platforms like Serie A a lot

 

[Mokku]

@Dostoevsky
My point is that pouring oil money into 3 or 4 Serie A clubs won't do much for the league because that just ties up the EL and CL spots. Serie A needs more money spread across all teams rather than a few teams so that when a team are promoted, that single year in Serie A should pay well enough for them to improve massively as a club.

 

[JuveJay]

English fans are much more committed to their clubs and in return, the clubs have great stadia and facilities. If you look at the Championship, they sell out and they promote it so much. Winners of the play off will make £100M+ from a season in the EPL, £250M+ if they can stay up for the second season. The whole infrastructure is better built and a couple of oil rich clubs won't change things in Italy. The English FA actually help clubs not like the Italian system who do absolutely nothing.

It's more that the stadiums cater for fans a lot more than in Italy. But also if you go to any big PL team games now they are flooded with football tourists from all corners of the globe, so much that a lot of the old school fans are priced out. The English or local that remain are often middle classes, or better off working class people obsessed with the match day experience and support. It's sad in a way but exactly what our ultras were fighting the club about.

So yeah they make loads of money on match days but it's not because the English care more about their clubs or football in general. I mean, the comparison is Italians...The other side of it is the economy, it's just stronger in the UK.

Pouring oil money into 4 Serie A clubs would have some trickle down effect as they'll end up fighting each other to buy the better players from those teams. The TV revenue will increase across the league as better players = more prestige (not always better spectacle, but football fans are often dumb and many don't really understand it all that well), it has a knock on effect. But it wouldn't happen in a couple of years it will be a decade, and by that time teams like QPR might be owned by Elon Musk and the 15th placed team in the PL has a turnover of £1Bn.

 

[Osman]

Even if they don't buy inter, Newcastle will raid serie a, well on its way to being ligue 1.

I dont think people realize how alarming it is 8 of 11 players from last seasons best eleven players, left the league this summer. And this will continue more and more.

 

[Xperd]

If I'm not wrong, isn't there a consideration for a joint bid from Italy and Saudi to host the 2030 world cup?

What best way to solidify their sporting relations by buying a broke Italian club.

Sportswashing is in full overdrive and I give this takeover a good chance of happening.

For Juve though, it's both good and bad news. While we are going to be competitive for sure but eventually, oil money will prevail.

See City-Pool rivalry for example. Pool are competitive but they are lacking that little bit extra that these oil teams have to turn into a super club.

 

[Cerval]

If I'm not wrong, isn't there a consideration for a joint bid from Italy and Saudi to host the 2030 world cup?

What best way to solidify their sporting relations by buying a broke Italian club.

Sportswashing is in full overdrive and I give this takeover a good chance of happening.

For Juve though, it's both good and bad news. While we are going to be competitive for sure but eventually, oil money will prevail.

See City-Pool rivalry for example. Pool are competitive but they are lacking that little bit extra that these oil teams have to turn into a super club.

Calshio fans will love shamelessly that joint bid for the world cup.

 

[Elvin]

If I'm not wrong, isn't there a consideration for a joint bid from Italy and Saudi to host the 2030 world cup?

What best way to solidify their sporting relations by buying a broke Italian club.

Sportswashing is in full overdrive and I give this takeover a good chance of happening.

For Juve though, it's both good and bad news. While we are going to be competitive for sure but eventually, oil money will prevail.

See City-Pool rivalry for example. Pool are competitive but they are lacking that little bit extra that these oil teams have to turn into a super club.

Why would the Saudis need sportwashing tho? Not like there is anyone, and I mean anyone holding the ruling family accountable for anything. It's an absolute monarchy, they can literally do whatever the fuck they want. Zero checks and balances.

Or am I missing smth?

 

[BayernFan]

If I'm not wrong, isn't there a consideration for a joint bid from Italy and Saudi to host the 2030 world cup?

What best way to solidify their sporting relations by buying a broke Italian club.

Sportswashing is in full overdrive and I give this takeover a good chance of happening.

For Juve though, it's both good and bad news. While we are going to be competitive for sure but eventually, oil money will prevail.

See City-Pool rivalry for example. Pool are competitive but they are lacking that little bit extra that these oil teams have to turn into a super club.

You dont think Liverpool is a super club currently?

I think they’ve taken massive steps since the late early/mid 10’s of last decade.

Their gloomy average days seems to be over, although I still think they will have a hard time replacing Klopp in the coming 3-4 years or when he leaves them.

Financially they cant compete with the likes of City, PSG and Chelsea, but they’re still able to buy players for big sums.

 

[juve123]

Why would the Saudis need sportwashing tho? Not like there is anyone, and I mean anyone holding the ruling family accountable for anything. It's an absolute monarchy, they can literally do whatever the fuck they want. Zero checks and balances.

Or am I missing smth?

How many clubs have their own stadiums? there are so many bureaucracy issues in Italy

 

[Siamak]

Saudi Arabia is offering €200mln to host the #SupercoppaItaliana for the next 6 years, but is asking for a new format: no longer a straight final but rather a Final Four by inviting the seconds in league and in cup.

 

[X Æ A-12]

That's just what teams need. More travel and more shitty games in the middle of an already congested season for Saudi money

 

[X Æ A-12]

Sorry mate, my Juve bias makes me like Commisso a lot more than de Lamentiis

Apology accepted