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I still believe players would pop up if they were good enough. Or at least talented enough so top teams would steal them in their early age.
There are way too many hard-working players with close to zero talent who can't even improve and who are worthy of a mid-table club simply because they are limited. We were terrible and then we bought Licht, Pogba, Vidal, Asamoah, Tevez, Morata, Dybala and many others.
And just look at Italian NT. There are Ogbonna, Florenzi, Sturaro, Parolo, Giaccherini, Pelle, Eder, Immobile. They are all meh and just a decent backup IMO. And there are some great players, which I won't even name, but I will list their age: 38, 35, 33, 33. And some are 31yo. I think it's pretty worrying. Especially becuase not many young players are popping up.
Teams like PSG get to buy some French players despite their stack of cash. Players get developed in smaller teams, like in every other league, then big guys buy them. They rarely come through Primavera and grab a spot. But when you look at the players in Italy there are many top talents. There are always some. There were many in the past but majority just vanishes cause they disappear with a given chance at big clubs. There are also many clubs in Italy who have a high number of Italian players, yet there's hardly someone to be excited about. And even in their case a foreign player is usually one of their best players. I think it's pretty obvious how Italians lack good players only by looking at the fact how we signed majority of the worthy ones already.
PL is not really a good example, eh? They always had shit players and a very bad NT.
Shortly: You can't develop mediocrity. And also, talented players will always pop up, despite of the bad team.
There are way too many hard-working players with close to zero talent who can't even improve and who are worthy of a mid-table club simply because they are limited. We were terrible and then we bought Licht, Pogba, Vidal, Asamoah, Tevez, Morata, Dybala and many others.
And just look at Italian NT. There are Ogbonna, Florenzi, Sturaro, Parolo, Giaccherini, Pelle, Eder, Immobile. They are all meh and just a decent backup IMO. And there are some great players, which I won't even name, but I will list their age: 38, 35, 33, 33. And some are 31yo. I think it's pretty worrying. Especially becuase not many young players are popping up.
Teams like PSG get to buy some French players despite their stack of cash. Players get developed in smaller teams, like in every other league, then big guys buy them. They rarely come through Primavera and grab a spot. But when you look at the players in Italy there are many top talents. There are always some. There were many in the past but majority just vanishes cause they disappear with a given chance at big clubs. There are also many clubs in Italy who have a high number of Italian players, yet there's hardly someone to be excited about. And even in their case a foreign player is usually one of their best players. I think it's pretty obvious how Italians lack good players only by looking at the fact how we signed majority of the worthy ones already.
PL is not really a good example, eh? They always had shit players and a very bad NT.
Shortly: You can't develop mediocrity. And also, talented players will always pop up, despite of the bad team.
Youth system and academies suck these days in Italy. Either that or this generation is very weak. Have a look at France and all the talented teenagers getting poached early in their career. PSG have great youth players for instance even if they don't play for the first team or even have room to be in their squad.
If true, looking from that angle, the situation looks even more worse. Much much worse.
Not only they develop the wrong type of players, who won't suit modern football (European football), but they are not even good at their own niche.
French strikers always focus on being sort of jack-of-all trades. They also train players to use both legs which I absolutely love. Not just that but certain level of technique is pretty much a must. Yet they had a Trezeguet.
Spanish players are always flair and fancy but they had a Raul, Morientes and others.
Argies are always giftend and skilled, yet they made Icardi.
Italian clubs focuses on target man and poachers yet they created Matri, Pazzini, Eder, Gilardino, Borriello, Immobile, Pelle, etc.
They did manage to shape Verratti, but like I said -- good talent will be spotted very soon.
If they do focus on something I'd surely expect more from it. I know there will be some, trying to quote my post and name all great Italian players (poachers), which is not even my point. Just look how Germans are polishing their GKs who are truly unique. They all have a unique style defending and saving with their legs and they keep producing great goalkeepers. So, unlike Italians, they are at least successful with their school. So it turns out Italian school was there to create Pirlo and Toni. And that's about it.
Not only they develop the wrong type of players, who won't suit modern football (European football), but they are not even good at their own niche.
French strikers always focus on being sort of jack-of-all trades. They also train players to use both legs which I absolutely love. Not just that but certain level of technique is pretty much a must. Yet they had a Trezeguet.
Spanish players are always flair and fancy but they had a Raul, Morientes and others.
Argies are always giftend and skilled, yet they made Icardi.
Italian clubs focuses on target man and poachers yet they created Matri, Pazzini, Eder, Gilardino, Borriello, Immobile, Pelle, etc.
They did manage to shape Verratti, but like I said -- good talent will be spotted very soon.
If they do focus on something I'd surely expect more from it. I know there will be some, trying to quote my post and name all great Italian players (poachers), which is not even my point. Just look how Germans are polishing their GKs who are truly unique. They all have a unique style defending and saving with their legs and they keep producing great goalkeepers. So, unlike Italians, they are at least successful with their school. So it turns out Italian school was there to create Pirlo and Toni. And that's about it.
China Inc's $3 billion land grab among Europe's soccer royalty
By Pamela Barbaglia and Adam Jourdan | LONDON/SHANGHAI
It was over lunch at his villa outside Milan with soccer "super-agent" Jorge Mendes that Italian tycoon Silvio Berlusconi realised an unpleasant truth: his storied club, AC Milan, needed cash, and plenty of it.
Mendes, a source familiar with the matter said, was discussing the potential sale of Colombian star James Rodriguez from Real Madrid for 85 million euros ($95 million)- cash that loss-making, debt-burdened AC Milan simply did not have.
Weeks later, Berlusconi became the latest European club owner to sell out to Chinese buyers, in a shopping spree that has caught up clubs from England's Aston Villa to France's OGC Nice and adds up to around $3 billion since December alone.
AC Milan, if the preliminary agreement announced last week is confirmed, will mark one of the largest club deals to date in European football - valuing the "rossoneri" - or "red and blacks" - at 740 million euros ($825 million), including 220 million of debt.
Yet the buyers - Li Yonghong, Li Han and Haixia Capital, and a handful of other entities not named by former Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi's firm - are unknown and untested in European football.
There was no public signing or press conference to herald the deal - only a handful of photographs released after a private handshake at Berlusconi's Sardinia villa.
Other Chinese buyers of rival clubs over the past months, their cash promising to shake up the game, are similarly little known in the sport, including a packaging firm, an eco-city builder and a maker of food additives.
"If I'm honest, I haven't got a clue who Li Han and Li Yonghong are," said Lou Yicheng, a veteran sports commentator in China who has been in the business for more than 20 years. "There are certainly lots of questions that still need answering."
Sino-Europe Sports Investment Management Changxing, the vehicle used for the AC Milan deal, says it has support from local government in China - which president and soccer enthusiast Xi Jinping wants to turn into a football superpower by 2050.
A spokesman for the local Changxing government said it had no financial connection with Sino-Europe Sports and was not directly involved in the deal. He declined to comment further.
No European football association has yet raised major concerns about the influx of Chinese money, though most, like England's Football Association, do have some provision to consider if new owners are "fit and proper".
Carlo Tavecchio, Chairman of the Italian Football Federation, said this week there were some "strange situations" arising from the flush of cash from China.
"If China intends to host the World Cup in 2030 then it means it will invest in Europe," he told reporters. "Unlike the past, this sector now attracts and includes a series of people who are not part of the football sector."
Full Article : http://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-china-buyers-idUSKCN10N1JY?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
By Pamela Barbaglia and Adam Jourdan | LONDON/SHANGHAI
It was over lunch at his villa outside Milan with soccer "super-agent" Jorge Mendes that Italian tycoon Silvio Berlusconi realised an unpleasant truth: his storied club, AC Milan, needed cash, and plenty of it.
Mendes, a source familiar with the matter said, was discussing the potential sale of Colombian star James Rodriguez from Real Madrid for 85 million euros ($95 million)- cash that loss-making, debt-burdened AC Milan simply did not have.
Weeks later, Berlusconi became the latest European club owner to sell out to Chinese buyers, in a shopping spree that has caught up clubs from England's Aston Villa to France's OGC Nice and adds up to around $3 billion since December alone.
AC Milan, if the preliminary agreement announced last week is confirmed, will mark one of the largest club deals to date in European football - valuing the "rossoneri" - or "red and blacks" - at 740 million euros ($825 million), including 220 million of debt.
Yet the buyers - Li Yonghong, Li Han and Haixia Capital, and a handful of other entities not named by former Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi's firm - are unknown and untested in European football.
There was no public signing or press conference to herald the deal - only a handful of photographs released after a private handshake at Berlusconi's Sardinia villa.
Other Chinese buyers of rival clubs over the past months, their cash promising to shake up the game, are similarly little known in the sport, including a packaging firm, an eco-city builder and a maker of food additives.
"If I'm honest, I haven't got a clue who Li Han and Li Yonghong are," said Lou Yicheng, a veteran sports commentator in China who has been in the business for more than 20 years. "There are certainly lots of questions that still need answering."
Sino-Europe Sports Investment Management Changxing, the vehicle used for the AC Milan deal, says it has support from local government in China - which president and soccer enthusiast Xi Jinping wants to turn into a football superpower by 2050.
A spokesman for the local Changxing government said it had no financial connection with Sino-Europe Sports and was not directly involved in the deal. He declined to comment further.
No European football association has yet raised major concerns about the influx of Chinese money, though most, like England's Football Association, do have some provision to consider if new owners are "fit and proper".
Carlo Tavecchio, Chairman of the Italian Football Federation, said this week there were some "strange situations" arising from the flush of cash from China.
"If China intends to host the World Cup in 2030 then it means it will invest in Europe," he told reporters. "Unlike the past, this sector now attracts and includes a series of people who are not part of the football sector."
Full Article : http://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-china-buyers-idUSKCN10N1JY?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
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