[Seria A] Ascoli- Juventus (12 Viewers)
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How ironic.
I did watch them closely, no need to ofence,
i agree with u about the fact he was terrible in the Roma match,
i said it back then,
but this game was a difference case,
i m not biased against any player(even if he is black and french
)
and i always judge him on his performance and only,
u souldnt rate him for previus matches/mistakes,
unless u believe he did mistakes in this match too,
then i chalenge u to enlighten us on what we missed...
if Thuram was bad in this game and worthed a 5.5
then Vieira sould play for serie B and get a -5.5
i agree with u about the fact he was terrible in the Roma match,
i said it back then,
but this game was a difference case,
i m not biased against any player(even if he is black and french
)and i always judge him on his performance and only,
u souldnt rate him for previus matches/mistakes,
unless u believe he did mistakes in this match too,
then i chalenge u to enlighten us on what we missed...
if Thuram was bad in this game and worthed a 5.5
then Vieira sould play for serie B and get a -5.5
This is Thuram's last year as a starter, he served us well,
he is still better than the Mexes and the Ferraris,
some of the members who know everything about football,
were so eager to trade him, with, 2 years ago,
he sould have been finished, dead and buried by now,
but ooh what a surprise he is still around saving our asses,umpkin: (not like he is close to Maldini's age yet)
eventually this year Kovac will take his place in the first eleven and we will buy another young, ITALIAN, available (not Puyol i m afraid) CB (like Barzagli),
the later will have a couple of years to adapt himself to Canna's shoes before he dies...
he is still better than the Mexes and the Ferraris,
some of the members who know everything about football,
were so eager to trade him, with, 2 years ago,
he sould have been finished, dead and buried by now,
but ooh what a surprise he is still around saving our asses,
umpkin: (not like he is close to Maldini's age yet)eventually this year Kovac will take his place in the first eleven and we will buy another young, ITALIAN, available (not Puyol i m afraid) CB (like Barzagli),
the later will have a couple of years to adapt himself to Canna's shoes before he dies...
yes and this what worries me the most because our team has no decent back up for him (unlike Thuram's case)and he is a very important player to our play, both def and ofensively(as he is not constructive at all and our low creativity skills, as a team, demands him to be
and he does a great damage to the team with all those wrong passes,
wich create danzerous counterattacks,
our defence outnumbered cant stop them all forever)
and he has been underperforming for many consecutive games,
i m really worried about this, this is our real problem...
we have alternatives in defence and ofence, the most on form player will play,
but we need our dynamic duo to be strong all the way.
and he does a great damage to the team with all those wrong passes,
wich create danzerous counterattacks,
our defence outnumbered cant stop them all forever)
and he has been underperforming for many consecutive games,
i m really worried about this, this is our real problem...
we have alternatives in defence and ofence, the most on form player will play,
but we need our dynamic duo to be strong all the way.
With all my respect to all ur opinions but I dont think Thuram is that bad this season This is his last season & he confirmed this in September this man did a lot to JUVE he is our Captain(when Dp is out)& I think till now he played only two bad games against Lazio & against Roma(Coppa) but all the other games he was very good & he saved our asses a lot as for next seasonJuve will definitly buy another CB may be Gallas(another black french)or barzaglie or Chivu & Kovac will still be the fit replacement.
)or barzaglie or Chivu & Kovac will still be the fit replacement.
Spot on, like almost always..
Btw, capello didnt used xlatan in the coppa because it seems he still have a physical problem that altho is not serious, it bothers him a little.
Mmm, i really dont think he was lighting quick in that season, maybe just a little fast than now. He was very fast in his best days tho.
Now, in my view, i think that DP keep saving his energy the whole game to make use of it in the moments he needs to. I dont think he can be running all the field the 90 mins with his tired body. Like i said before, the stuborness of Capello in benching DP (which i dont understand) is now giving results. It seems that he cant take the whole season any more, as u rememebr that with Lippi he always had like one serious injury per season. Bu with his usual games benched and his will to overcome records, the guy is giving maybe his last round of bullets this season. Good for our captain indeed.
Btw, capello didnt used xlatan in the coppa because it seems he still have a physical problem that altho is not serious, it bothers him a little.
Mmm, i really dont think he was lighting quick in that season, maybe just a little fast than now. He was very fast in his best days tho.
Now, in my view, i think that DP keep saving his energy the whole game to make use of it in the moments he needs to. I dont think he can be running all the field the 90 mins with his tired body. Like i said before, the stuborness of Capello in benching DP (which i dont understand) is now giving results. It seems that he cant take the whole season any more, as u rememebr that with Lippi he always had like one serious injury per season. Bu with his usual games benched and his will to overcome records, the guy is giving maybe his last round of bullets this season. Good for our captain indeed.
Dominic said:
Did you just copy my match summary or what ..
Seriously, did you? Just look at the similarities.
..Seriously, did you? Just look at the similarities.
I was busy rushing off to give my Chinese new year greetings to my family and frens that I juz rush off. Becos ur points r the same as mine for the game, therefore it is very similar. I apologize for that.
If you find it offensive, I will delete my post right away.
Cronios said:
I did watch them closely, no need to ofence,
i agree with u about the fact he was terrible in the Roma match,
i said it back then,
but this game was a difference case,
i m not biased against any player(even if he is black and french )
and i always judge him on his performance and only,
u souldnt rate him for previus matches/mistakes,
unless u believe he did mistakes in this match too,
then i chalenge u to enlighten us on what we missed...
if Thuram was bad in this game and worthed a 5.5
then Vieira sould play for serie B and get a -5.5
i agree with u about the fact he was terrible in the Roma match,
i said it back then,
but this game was a difference case,
i m not biased against any player(even if he is black and french
)and i always judge him on his performance and only,
u souldnt rate him for previus matches/mistakes,
unless u believe he did mistakes in this match too,
then i chalenge u to enlighten us on what we missed...
if Thuram was bad in this game and worthed a 5.5
then Vieira sould play for serie B and get a -5.5
Thuram is in poor form and thats the end of it not because he is black and not because he is French, he just is in poor form. If people are going to judge players on race or nationality, then thats a godamned disgrace. I really find it offensive with your use of "even if he is black and french". I sincerely hope is just a case of miscommunication
Ascoli vs Juventus 1-3
Outstanding Juventus knock Ascoli down with 3 goals in 18 minutes thanks to Trezeguet’s hat trick. The Frenchman’s first goal occurs after 7 minutes. Emerson regains the ball at the edge of the area, passes it to Camoranesi and the latter to Trezeguet who controls the ball and puts it in with an unsaveable left-footed drive (0-1). After 11 minutes, Del Piero attempts on goal on a free kick but the ball gets out. The second goal occurs on 12’ minutes: Del Piero serves for Camoranesi, he crosses to the middle for Trezeguet who shoots a right-footed drive in from a two-step range (0-2). The hat trick arrives on 18’ minutes: Del Piero starts a great action from the left, he dribbles Domizzi and serves Trezeguet in the middle of the box and the latter scores with a left-footed strike (0-3). Trezegoal gets close to the fourth strike on 25’ minutes but this time Coppola clears and counters Trezeguet’s attack. Buffon’s first intervention takes place on 30’ minutes, when he easily saves Fini’s free kick from the left. However, on 33’ minutes Ferrante, following Comotto’s cross pass, drives a right-footed shot in and it’s 1-3. That’s when the game’s pace rises but the home side cannot worry the Bianconeri anymore and the latter nearly score the fourth goal on 34’ minutes with Del Piero who, served for by Trezeguet, engages Coppola in a difficult save and again on 36’ minutes when the Captain, dashing forward, is anticipated by the goalkeeper. In the final minutes, it’s Camoranesi’s turn with a shot from the short distance but the ball ends narrowly out.
The second half starts with no change on both side and gives no big thrills on the pitch. Capello’s side manage their lead with great care and Ascoli cannot get dangerous. At the start, Del Piero threats the opponents’ defence in a couple of occasions while Ferrante’s header and Foggia’s free kick both miss the target. At about mid-time, both coaches make a couple of substitutions each: Quagliarella and Giampà replace Fini and Bjelanovic for Ascoli and Ibrahimovic and Mutu get in in place of Trezeguet and Camoranesi for Juventus. In the last ten minutes Cariello replaces Ferrante and Zalayeta is the substitute for Del Piero. On 39’ minutes, Nedved’s attempt is easily saved by Coppola. One minute later, the Czech starts a good attack, the ball gets to Ibrahimovic but he’s anticipated by a defender in the penalty area. It ends with Capello’s side gaining the deserved win by 3-1.
ASCOLI-JUVENTUS 1-3
GOALS: 7’, 12’ and 18’ fh Trezeguet, 33’ fh Ferrante
ASCOLI: Coppola, Comotto, Paci, Domizzi, Tosto, Foggia, Guana, Parola, Fini (28’sh Giampà), Ferrante (38’sh Cariello), Bjelanovic (20’sh Quagliarella). Coach: Silva. Substitutes: Zotti, Adani, Oresti, Cordova.
JUVENTUS: Buffon, Zebina, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi (33’sh Mutu), Emerson, Vieira, Nedved, Del Piero (38’sh Zalayeta), Trezeguet (24’sh Ibrahimovic). Coach: Capello. Substitutes: Abbiati, Balzaretti, Blasi, Giannichedda.
REFEREE: Racalbuto
YELLOW CARDS: 35’fh Tosto, 8’ sh Vieira, 29’sh Domizzi
Outstanding Juventus knock Ascoli down with 3 goals in 18 minutes thanks to Trezeguet’s hat trick. The Frenchman’s first goal occurs after 7 minutes. Emerson regains the ball at the edge of the area, passes it to Camoranesi and the latter to Trezeguet who controls the ball and puts it in with an unsaveable left-footed drive (0-1). After 11 minutes, Del Piero attempts on goal on a free kick but the ball gets out. The second goal occurs on 12’ minutes: Del Piero serves for Camoranesi, he crosses to the middle for Trezeguet who shoots a right-footed drive in from a two-step range (0-2). The hat trick arrives on 18’ minutes: Del Piero starts a great action from the left, he dribbles Domizzi and serves Trezeguet in the middle of the box and the latter scores with a left-footed strike (0-3). Trezegoal gets close to the fourth strike on 25’ minutes but this time Coppola clears and counters Trezeguet’s attack. Buffon’s first intervention takes place on 30’ minutes, when he easily saves Fini’s free kick from the left. However, on 33’ minutes Ferrante, following Comotto’s cross pass, drives a right-footed shot in and it’s 1-3. That’s when the game’s pace rises but the home side cannot worry the Bianconeri anymore and the latter nearly score the fourth goal on 34’ minutes with Del Piero who, served for by Trezeguet, engages Coppola in a difficult save and again on 36’ minutes when the Captain, dashing forward, is anticipated by the goalkeeper. In the final minutes, it’s Camoranesi’s turn with a shot from the short distance but the ball ends narrowly out.
The second half starts with no change on both side and gives no big thrills on the pitch. Capello’s side manage their lead with great care and Ascoli cannot get dangerous. At the start, Del Piero threats the opponents’ defence in a couple of occasions while Ferrante’s header and Foggia’s free kick both miss the target. At about mid-time, both coaches make a couple of substitutions each: Quagliarella and Giampà replace Fini and Bjelanovic for Ascoli and Ibrahimovic and Mutu get in in place of Trezeguet and Camoranesi for Juventus. In the last ten minutes Cariello replaces Ferrante and Zalayeta is the substitute for Del Piero. On 39’ minutes, Nedved’s attempt is easily saved by Coppola. One minute later, the Czech starts a good attack, the ball gets to Ibrahimovic but he’s anticipated by a defender in the penalty area. It ends with Capello’s side gaining the deserved win by 3-1.
ASCOLI-JUVENTUS 1-3
GOALS: 7’, 12’ and 18’ fh Trezeguet, 33’ fh Ferrante
ASCOLI: Coppola, Comotto, Paci, Domizzi, Tosto, Foggia, Guana, Parola, Fini (28’sh Giampà), Ferrante (38’sh Cariello), Bjelanovic (20’sh Quagliarella). Coach: Silva. Substitutes: Zotti, Adani, Oresti, Cordova.
JUVENTUS: Buffon, Zebina, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi (33’sh Mutu), Emerson, Vieira, Nedved, Del Piero (38’sh Zalayeta), Trezeguet (24’sh Ibrahimovic). Coach: Capello. Substitutes: Abbiati, Balzaretti, Blasi, Giannichedda.
REFEREE: Racalbuto
YELLOW CARDS: 35’fh Tosto, 8’ sh Vieira, 29’sh Domizzi
Capello is satisfied
Fabio Capello is satisfied with the sound and deserved win over Ascoli. When he’s asked whether this is the best response to the Coppa Italia defeat, the Bianconeri coach says: “We absorbed that defeat easily. Today I’ve seen a determined team who has played 20-25 minutes with a high tempo and determination. We could have scored more goals and we conceded a goal that could have been easily prevented”. He’s also asked about Trezeguet, the goalstriker of the match: “Someone underlined how he hadn’t scored in the last four matches, now he has given his answer on the playground.”
In such an oustanding Juventus, in a roster full of champions, the coach has to make his choices: “I prefer having problems of abundance than of lack – Capello says – The team is doing well and those who are on form deserve to play. How do I choose? I look at the training. For example, Trezeguet got rid of his tendon ache and he has trained well in the last few days, while Ibrahimovic could not train a lot because of his tracheitis, so this time it was easy to choose. In other occasions, it hurts to make a choice but the championship is long and there can be room for everyone.”
It is then pointed out that Juventus last season had a slow down at this time of the year, January-February and Capello replies: “That’s true if you look at the points, but we lost matches during which the opponents’ goalkeeper was the best player of the match”.
Fabio Capello is satisfied with the sound and deserved win over Ascoli. When he’s asked whether this is the best response to the Coppa Italia defeat, the Bianconeri coach says: “We absorbed that defeat easily. Today I’ve seen a determined team who has played 20-25 minutes with a high tempo and determination. We could have scored more goals and we conceded a goal that could have been easily prevented”. He’s also asked about Trezeguet, the goalstriker of the match: “Someone underlined how he hadn’t scored in the last four matches, now he has given his answer on the playground.”
In such an oustanding Juventus, in a roster full of champions, the coach has to make his choices: “I prefer having problems of abundance than of lack – Capello says – The team is doing well and those who are on form deserve to play. How do I choose? I look at the training. For example, Trezeguet got rid of his tendon ache and he has trained well in the last few days, while Ibrahimovic could not train a lot because of his tracheitis, so this time it was easy to choose. In other occasions, it hurts to make a choice but the championship is long and there can be room for everyone.”
It is then pointed out that Juventus last season had a slow down at this time of the year, January-February and Capello replies: “That’s true if you look at the points, but we lost matches during which the opponents’ goalkeeper was the best player of the match”.