[Seria A] Ascoli- Juventus (27 Viewers)

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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THE CHAMPIONS said:
nice one but it wiil be better if we had a better replacement for Trezy Toni for example:p then no team in the world could get a draw bey the most Iprtant thing is the coach I wish that Cap. sat with us coz there is no good replacements available now.
actionly there is only one coach beside Capello, that I would like to see at juve by now, Mourinho.. I think this guy would be perfect for us in the future.:D
 

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Maresca said:
actionly there is only one coach beside Capello, that I would like to see at juve by now, Mourinho.. I think this guy would be perfect for us in the future.:D
:agree:
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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Maresca said:
actionly there is only one coach beside Capello, that I would like to see at juve by now, Mourinho.. I think this guy would be perfect for us in the future.:D
u r right man butwhat I meant to say was about available coaches & of course Morinho is not available Abramovic wont let him go for the monet of the world & he said that after leaving Chelsea he would like to coach Portugal national team so............................................. but between the available coches I think that PRANDELLI is the best replacement if Cap. insisted on going after next season coz he will be Juvs's coach next season & it is confirmed.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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THE CHAMPIONS said:
u r right man butwhat I meant to say was about available coaches & of course Morinho is not available Abramovic wont let him go for the monet of the world & he said that after leaving Chelsea he would like to coach Portugal national team so............................................. but between the available coches I think that PRANDELLI is the best replacement if Cap. insisted on going after next season coz he will be Juvs's coach next season & it is confirmed.
Prandelli is good, but he has no international expierence. this could be very bad for juve. it is just like Ancelotti. I think he was a good coach, but his problem with juve was that he did not have much expierence.. I belive that Deschamps could be a good coach in 5-10 years. but now he is not ready for juve.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Maresca said:
imagine this:

------------------Buffon, Antonioli? (Mirante)
--Zebina (Balzaretti)---Thuram-Canavaro--Gallas--Kovac--Zambrotta(Chielini)

--Marchioni--Camoranesi--Viera--Emerson---Barone--Zanetti--Nedved--Mutu

---------------Del Piero---Zlatan-----Trez-Zalayeta
hmm Buffon, Boneffoi, Mirante

Gallas?/Balza - Canna/Thuram - Kovac/Barzagli - Zambrotta/Chiellini

Camo or Mancini/Marchioni - Emo/Barone - Vieira/Zanetti - Mutu/Nedved

Trezequet/Grafite - Zlatan/Del Piero


Kapo,Zalayeta,Pessotto,Zebina,Blasi or Gianni out
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
8,235
Cronios said:
hmm Buffon, Boneffoi, Mirante

Gallas?/Balza - Canna/Thuram - Kovac/Barzagli - Zambrotta/Chiellini

Camo or Mancini/Marchioni - Emo/Barone - Vieira/Zanetti - Mutu/Nedved

Trezequet/Grafite - Zlatan/Del Piero


Kapo,Zalayeta,Pessotto,Zebina,Blasi or Gianni out
I am not sure, if gallas want´s to play as a RB or LB, actionly this is one of the reason why he wants to leave chlel$ki, he wants to play as a CB
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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Maresca said:
I am not sure, if gallas want´s to play as a RB or LB, actionly this is one of the reason why he wants to leave chlel$ki, he wants to play as a CB
yes i know thats why i used the "?",
the RB is our biggest headache
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Sir Sebastian said:
vinnie no offense but you exaggerate a bit too much. capello is definitely not an idiot, let alone a bad manager...
you have your opinion, and I have mine, and thats that......

we'll see what happens in the CL...probably a repeat performance of last season


dont tell me you are one of those who claims that with this team lippi would have won the CL and seria a in march while saving the world from wars and aids ?
all the above except the part about World War's and aids, Bessie
 

denco

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Jul 12, 2002
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Fantastic hattrick by Trezeguet and a very good first half performance all round, with the way they were all interchanging i thought io was watching Ajax. It was nice to see Camo, Trez, Dp and Nedved interchanging positions and not sticking to the boring regimented stuff.
The only black mark is what I am seeing of Zlatan of late, whether you like him or not, if we are gonna win Cl, he needs to be in tip top condition, cos as well as Dp is playing, he does lack pace and Zlatan has that, and to be honest i cannot see us winning Cl with 1 paced players like Emerson, Dp and Vieira all in the same team . but Zlatan too has gotta cut out all the nonsense and get his act together, he has been very average this season , no matter what anyone says and yes Juve do play better as a unit with Dp in the team but like i said he cannot beat defenders for pace just skill and that sets him apart from the likes of etoo, Henry, sheva and the rest cos technically he is as good if not better than aforementioned
It was the best performance i have ever seen Trez giving, forget about the 3 goals, he was crossing the ball into the penalty area, he was on the wings, he held up the ball, he ran with the ball, he did his usual flicks and stuff and if he plays like this we stand a good chance in Cl cos that will mean all players being involved instead of 9 outfield players and Trez . He even worked harder than his strike partner which is unheard of.
Another downside is of cos after playing so well, the ref blows his whistle and the players talk to the manager, and he does his usual magic team talk and then they bore the pants of ya, in the second half. I just wish football can be like tennis where teams are not aloud to talk to their manager or coach during a game, it might be a better spectacle as surely Capello killed the game.
Another nonsense is Zlatan's non appearnace against Roma in the cup, he should have played if he was not gonna start against Ascoli after missing Empoli with suspension or maybe Dp's 2 goals against Roma changed Capello's mind

Buffon : Nothing of note to mention apart from again he conceded a goal 5.5
Zebina: He was good and played very well as a right back, yes opposition was awful but he did better than most of the guys that have asked to play right back 6
Thuram: a better performance but then again he was not playing against anyone even if Ferrante did manage to score 6
Cannavaro: ditto
Zambrotta: played very well at left back as he should, went forward well and contained that diver Foggia very well too 6.5
Nedved: very good in the first half but like every juve player subdued in second 6
Camoranesi: A performance which typifies why he is not a bona fide worldclass player and why he would always be described as underrated gem or unsung hero, he just does not pass the ball at the right time all the time, he tries to do too much at times and slows down pace of attack. If he could just improve his decision making then he would be regarded as world class no questions. No surprise he was subbed cos if i was the manager, id have done the same, he was anooying me as well 6.5
Emerson: Just glided through the game like the class player he is 6.5
Vieria: Better performance from him but how come he cannot pass the ball forward? His forward passes were just awful, he gave the ball away more than anyother Juve player and most of the time they were unforced errors. He was betaen for pace far too easily for the goal we conceded and i do wish he controls himself cos he ought to have been sent off 5.5
Dp: He should have scored in the first few seconds and perhaps again when he missed Trez's delightful cross, but his overall game was excellent and awareness his second to none. The only blemish is like i said chronic lack of pace 7
Trez: Was just a pleasure to see him play like that 8.5
Zlatan: Game was dead when he came on, still had a 1 on 1 with a defender which he fluffed and looks outta sorts, i would like to see him back with a bang as we need to be pulling togetther and he is an asset when his head is right. He should learn from Dp who has come off the bench to score, noone has the divine right to start unless you are playing well and thats what Capello should adopt if he wants to win Cl
Mutu: too late to make any impact
 

THE CHAMPIONS

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2006
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Vinman said:
you have your opinion, and I have mine, and thats that......

we'll see what happens in the CL...probably a repeat performance of last season




all the above except the part about World War's and aids, Bessie
Hey man please try to be positive I think that Cap. will put all the team power on the Champions & this will appear aginst Bremen, man he is still Juve's coach l& he is may be the best in the world(with Morinho) IMO & in 99% of the people opinions, let stand behind him & have faith in him & wait & if he srewed up in The CL then we can critisize him as u want.
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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Maresca said:
Prandelli is good, but he has no international expierence. this could be very bad for juve. it is just like Ancelotti. I think he was a good coach, but his problem with juve was that he did not have much expierence.. I belive that Deschamps could be a good coach in 5-10 years. but now he is not ready for juve.
U r right but I think Prandelli is much more clever htan Ancelotti, may be he is not ready yet to be Juve's coach but fron the AVAILABLE coaches I think he is the BEST.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
Cronios said:
what thuram sould do there?
grab his gun and shoot him?
was Thuram the only man in the field?
r u claiming all the other players reacted perfectly? and the goal was a Thuram's mistake?
was he on man to man on Ferrante?
was he ever fooled on the offside trap game?
the other(like ten) interceptions of the game he made dont mean nothing?
name the other mistakes...pls
Canna did some mistakes too, that means he also hasnt much left?

Think of the ppl wich doesnt get the change to watch the game,
did Thuram worthed the worst rating?
have you watched him play lately ??

did you watch the coppa game last thursday ??

he was awful against Roma, and has been in decline as the season has progressed

maybe you should start watching the games, and if you do, start watching a little closer
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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denco said:
Fantastic hattrick by Trezeguet and a very good first half performance all round, with the way they were all interchanging i thought io was watching Ajax. It was nice to see Camo, Trez, Dp and Nedved interchanging positions and not sticking to the boring regimented stuff.
The only black mark is what I am seeing of Zlatan of late, whether you like him or not, if we are gonna win Cl, he needs to be in tip top condition, cos as well as Dp is playing, he does lack pace and Zlatan has that, and to be honest i cannot see us winning Cl with 1 paced players like Emerson, Dp and Vieira all in the same team . but Zlatan too has gotta cut out all the nonsense and get his act together, he has been very average this season , no matter what anyone says and yes Juve do play better as a unit with Dp in the team but like i said he cannot beat defenders for pace just skill and that sets him apart from the likes of etoo, Henry, sheva and the rest cos technically he is as good if not better than aforementioned
It was the best performance i have ever seen Trez giving, forget about the 3 goals, he was crossing the ball into the penalty area, he was on the wings, he held up the ball, he ran with the ball, he did his usual flicks and stuff and if he plays like this we stand a good chance in Cl cos that will mean all players being involved instead of 9 outfield players and Trez . He even worked harder than his strike partner which is unheard of.
Another downside is of cos after playing so well, the ref blows his whistle and the players talk to the manager, and he does his usual magic team talk and then they bore the pants of ya, in the second half. I just wish football can be like tennis where teams are not aloud to talk to their manager or coach during a game, it might be a better spectacle as surely Capello killed the game.
Another nonsense is Zlatan's non appearnace against Roma in the cup, he should have played if he was not gonna start against Ascoli after missing Empoli with suspension or maybe Dp's 2 goals against Roma changed Capello's mind

Buffon : Nothing of note to mention apart from again he conceded a goal 5.5
Zebina: He was good and played very well as a right back, yes opposition was awful but he did better than most of the guys that have asked to play right back 6
Thuram: a better performance but then again he was not playing against anyone even if Ferrante did manage to score 6
Cannavaro: ditto
Zambrotta: played very well at left back as he should, went forward well and contained that diver Foggia very well too 6.5
Nedved: very good in the first half but like every juve player subdued in second 6
Camoranesi: A performance which typifies why he is not a bona fide worldclass player and why he would always be described as underrated gem or unsung hero, he just does not pass the ball at the right time all the time, he tries to do too much at times and slows down pace of attack. If he could just improve his decision making then he would be regarded as world class no questions. No surprise he was subbed cos if i was the manager, id have done the same, he was anooying me as well 6.5
Emerson: Just glided through the game like the class player he is 6.5
Vieria: Better performance from him but how come he cannot pass the ball forward? His forward passes were just awful, he gave the ball away more than anyother Juve player and most of the time they were unforced errors. He was betaen for pace far too easily for the goal we conceded and i do wish he controls himself cos he ought to have been sent off 5.5
Dp: He should have scored in the first few seconds and perhaps again when he missed Trez's delightful cross, but his overall game was excellent and awareness his second to none. The only blemish is like i said chronic lack of pace 7
Trez: Was just a pleasure to see him play like that 8.5
Zlatan: Game was dead when he came on, still had a 1 on 1 with a defender which he fluffed and looks outta sorts, i would like to see him back with a bang as we need to be pulling togetther and he is an asset when his head is right. He should learn from Dp who has come off the bench to score, noone has the divine right to start unless you are playing well and thats what Capello should adopt if he wants to win Cl
Mutu: too late to make any impact
That's probably thanks to his awful lot of muscular injuries in the last years. Remember how lightning quick he was in the 2002/2003 season.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I have said it time and time again we need to find a competent replacement for Thuram. After his blunders against Liverpool and Fiorentina last year and against Lazio and other sides this year, I would even give the healthy Kovac a start before Lilian. I do not like central defenders who are inept in the air and mess around with the ball to the point of a loss in posession in our own box...I really don't understand how anybody here can be happy with Thuram's performances of late. And no matter what anybody says Carles Puyol is the better defender of the two, to finish that argument.

Our defense is not as secure as some people might think with Thuram back there, however at least we have Cannavaro to make up for the mistakes of his counterpart and show the world he is indeed the best and most consistent stopper in the world.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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RochemBeck said:
I have said it time and time again we need to find a competent replacement for Thuram. After his blunders against Liverpool and Fiorentina last year and against Lazio and other sides this year, I would even give the healthy Kovac a start before Lilian. I do not like central defenders who are inept in the air and mess around with the ball to the point of a loss in posession in our own box...I really don't understand how anybody here can be happy with Thuram's performances of late. And no matter what anybody says Carles Puyol is the better defender of the two, to finish that argument.

Our defense is not as secure as some people might think with Thuram back there, however at least we have Cannavaro to make up for the mistakes of his counterpart and show the world he is indeed the best and most consistent stopper in the world.
So what exactly are you saying that we don't already know for two years?
 

Akerman

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Oct 20, 2005
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Azzurri7 said:
Who stepped on your tail here and asked you to stick your nose?


See, everything was going back to normal and now I don't know why you want to put alcohol on fire. Just keep it calm and mind your own business Akerkid.
Nice way to putting alcohol to fire yourself. I'm just pointing out that I'm irritated by your behavior sometimes and as you see alot of other people are too so if I were you I would apologise to the forum for trolling around.
 

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