Sergio Agüero - ST - Atletico Madrid (46 Viewers)

[only-juve]

I honestly don't think Aguero is coming or any other "big" name star this summer.

The reason is simple, if the news are true about Elkanns 70 million loan (in case the whole amount is spent on buying players and not to cover the club's other expenses or debts) then we already have spent close to 40 millions on our loaned players. Another 10 mil for Lichtsteiner who seems pretty close + 15 millions on Bastos that's a total of 65 millions.

Even with the sells (and we've been notoriously known as bad sellers since calciopoli) then personally i believe selling both Melo and Sissoko wouldn't get us more than 20 millions in best case scenarios.

That's an extra 20-25 millions that i doubt will get us someone like Aguero or Neymar or some big name out there.

Plus i doubt that now that we've spent 15 millions on someone like Quagliarella that we'll bench him and pay another 35-45 millions for a starter. With our limited resources a 15 million bench player is simply stupid.

 

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[DeBo]

I thought the loaned players we bought was payable over three years. Or was that just Matri?

 

[X Æ A-12]

They all were. We only payed like 12mil or so from this year's budget for them.

 

[Bjerknes]

This forum was better when the majority never knew installment payments existed.

 

[only-juve]

You guys sure didn't study accounting in college.

If you're calculating it this way, then we're still paying for Melo, Diego, Amauri and soo many other players fee's even this summer because those guys we're purchased in installments too. Just like 99% of all the players in the world.

If you're buying a player today for whatever amount then that expense is already written in the club's books today (for the whole amount) regardless if we paid it in 2, 3 or even 5 installments.

 

[X Æ A-12]

This forum was better when the majority never knew installment payments existed.

So... what's the deal then?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I honestly don't think Aguero is coming or any other "big" name star this summer.

The reason is simple, if the news are true about Elkanns 70 million loan (in case the whole amount is spent on buying players and not to cover the club's other expenses or debts) then we already have spent close to 40 millions on our loaned players. Another 10 mil for Lichtsteiner who seems pretty close + 15 millions on Bastos that's a total of 65 millions.

Even with the sells (and we've been notoriously known as bad sellers since calciopoli) then personally i believe selling both Melo and Sissoko wouldn't get us more than 20 millions in best case scenarios.

That's an extra 20-25 millions that i doubt will get us someone like Aguero or Neymar or some big name out there.

Plus i doubt that now that we've spent 15 millions on someone like Quagliarella that we'll bench him and pay another 35-45 millions for a starter. With our limited resources a 15 million bench player is simply stupid.

Only 12 million will be used from our transfer budget for the four signings (Quag/Matri/Pepe/Motta).

 

[Cuti]

under assets their whole value would be mentioned, but in the cash flow of the business, only that being paid this year is taken from the budget

 

[acmilan]

This forum was better when the majority never knew installment payments existed.

stand up for education, Andy, don't knock it down

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i break for edumacation

 

[Fint]

Not sure if google translate is misleading me or not, but from what I can gather on Vs, it's looking less likely that we'll be signing mr aguero. Can anyone who uses the site confirm this?

 

[Cuti]

Aguero verso il sì alla Juve
08:30 del 24 giugno
Offerti 7,5 milioni all'anno: sconto dell'Atletico Madrid.
Juve, il colpo di mercato sarà Aguero.
Con il conto in banca appena rimpinguato, Beppe Marotta e Fabio Paratici, gli uomini mercato bianconeri, si sono avviati a far la spesa, già da ieri sera, a Milano. Il budget resta fuori dalle carte rese pubbliche per esigenze di Borsa, ma secondo i piani della Juve sarà sugli 80 milioni di euro. Abbastanza per ben ristrutturare la squadra e regalarsi una stella, Aguero su tutte, ma non un credito illiminato per svaligiare le vetrine, come farebbe uno sceicco qualunque. Visto che parte dell'investimento sarà destinato ai riscatti, per 37,25 milioni, per il resto si opererà tra contanti e scambi di giocatori. O reinvestendo il ricavato delle vendite. Prima dello shopping, la lista è praticamente fatta: sui 30 milioni per il fenomeno, o top player come va di moda adesso, una decina per l'imminente acquisto di Lichtsteiner, e qualche altro spicciolo, diciamo, per completare una sola altra operazione. Dopo di che, fine dei contanti.

Avendo appena fatto rifornimento, di quattrini, si può cominciare da «El Kun», al secolo Sergio Aguero, 23 anni, proclamatosi in esilio dall'Atletico Madrid. Prima notizia: il prezzo è calato, visto che il club spagnolo è pronto a uno sconto di cinque milioni, da levare alla clausola rescissoria, fissata a 45. Ancora troppi, 40, ma l'importante era sbloccare la trattativa, che s'annuncia lunga. Seconda notizia: Aguero è disponibile al trasloco in bianconero, convinto da un'offerta deluxe, sui 7,5 milioni di euro a stagione, uno in più di quelli che prende ora a Madrid. Tutte cose discusse via telefono tra Hernan Reguera, procuratore dell'argentino, e i dirigenti bianconeri. Tanto che ieri, dalla Spagna, la Juve veniva data come l'approdo più probabile per «El Kun». Il che non significa essere già in porto.

L'altro sogno di mezza estate sarebbe Mirko Vucinic, ma qui siamo davvero agli albori: la Roma chiede almeno venti milioni, la Juve potrebbe offrire giocatori. A meno di non vendere Melo e Sissoko, due dei più monetizzabili: per ora non c'è la fila. In quei territori, i bianconeri vorrebbero arruolare come mediano Lass Diarra, del Real Madrid, per il quale è stato fatto un altro sondaggio: c'è la concorrenza del Tottenham, e lui non pare pazzo dell'Italia. Nello stesso settore, la Juve ha sondato Arturo Vidal, 24 anni, centrocampista cileno del Bayer Leverkusen. I dirigenti ne hanno parlato con Fernando Felicevich, suo agente. Il giocatore è nei radar di Genoa, Milan e Napoli ma la Juve ci ha fatto un pensierino, anche se la valutazione non è da saldo: 12 milioni per uno in scadenza tra un anno. Tecnicamente, Felicevich è pure il procuratore di Alexis Sanchez, per settimane gioiello desiderato dai bianconeri. Ormai pare faccenda esclusiva di Barça e Manchester City: altri Paesi, altri conti in banca.


(La Stampa)

 

[Fint]

^ interesting

 

[Cuti]

basically: atletico lowered their asking price to us to 40 million euros, which is still too much, but its positive that negotiations have started to lead to soemthing in this long journey. We are going to offer a wage of 7.5 million a year, one million more than what he earns at atletico...all this was discussed on the phone between Reguera and the juve directors.
Vucinic is the other dream, but 20 million euros is too much...juve will offer players instead, unless we sell Melo & Sissoko, the two that will bring in most money, but there are no queues lining up for either of them. Juventus want Diarra as a replacement, there is competition from Tottenham, and he does not seem crazy for Italy. Juve have looked at Arturo Vidal, they want 12 million for him, which is a lot for someone whose contract expires in 2012. The agent of Vidal is also the agent of Sanchez, for many weeks wanted by Juve. Now he is exclusively 'of' Barca and City: other countries, other size bank accounts

This is what it said, i left out the first part which is about the money we got from the directors

 

[Fint]

Cheers Michael surely if we were willing to spend up to 35 million on a star player, then throwing in a player like say Storari or Tiago should cover the difference?

 

[Cuti]

If Storari and Sissoko agree to go to Atletico, i think we could pull off a deal at 30 million; providing atletico would want it

 

[Fake Melo]

Atleti doesn't need keepers though.

 

[Cuti]

They do, most probably De Gea is off to Manchester, and they requested Storari during negotiations if i'm not mistaken

 

[Fake Melo]

They do, most probably De Gea is off to Manchester, and they requested Storari during negotiations if i'm not mistaken

They have a good backup for De Gea, that's why they are selling.

 

[Cuti]

Then they need a good backup for the good back up dont they haha