Sergio Agüero - ST - Atletico Madrid (56 Viewers)

[JBF]

Players look for money and shitty provide that like no other club does. And seriously now, Beside the history which is irrelevant when making such a decision what would make a player like Aguero chooses Juventus over shitty? None.

 

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[Jasp]

Players look for money and shitty provide that like no other club does. And seriously now, Beside the history which is irrelevant when making such a decision what would make a player like Aguero chooses Juventus over shitty? None.

Climate, family, language. A lot of things other than money influences that decision. History matters. For some players alot, for others not at all.

 

[Salvatore]

Players look for money and shitty provide that like no other club does. And seriously now, Beside the history which is irrelevant when making such a decision what would make a player like Aguero chooses Juventus over shitty? None.

I have a question. What the fuck makes City a more attractive club than Juventus if you take the history out of it?

 

[giovanotti]

Its not true
I don`t remember Zidane`s arrival but if I remember correctly he didn`t play great at the start at the season but after a few monthes he played good
as for Nedved he played bad for the first 4 monthes and then he started to show his true worth

as for Diego he wasn`t great this season but I think our team`s bad performance didn`t help him being great eigther so can`t really judge him based on this season

The fact is Diego can't do all by himself , he needs other players to play the game.
He is not the one to be blamed, actually it's all about media , they expected to see the new Messi but the whole team was underachieving and they are pointing at Diego instead of the shitty coaches we had.
Just imagine Hiddink or Jose or any other top class manager and several defenders as addition .... the team would be totally different and Diego would be rated as he deserves.

 

[giovanotti]

Selling Diego to get Aguero is pointless in my opinion. Yes, it would be great to have Aguero in the team and he's a great player, but Diego is of the quality that he should be staying.

Selling the best player we've bought in the last 5 years after just one season isn't progress, we should be adding to our top players, not swapping them out for different ones each season.

Totally agree here.

 

[Jasp]

The fact is Diego can't do all by himself , he needs other players to play the game.
He is not the one to be blamed, actually it's all about media , they expected to see the new Messi but the whole team was underachieving and they are pointing at Diego instead of the shitty coaches we had.
Just imagine Hiddink or Jose or any other top class manager and several defenders as addition .... the team would be totally different and Diego would be rated as he deserves.

I would like to add, that my opinon is not based on Diegos performances this season. I think he was one of our best, and will improve if he gets the chance in the right conditions. Regardless of that, I think our team is better off with Aguero than Diego.

 

[Nicholas]

I have a question. What the fuck makes City a more attractive club than Juventus if you take the history out of it?

Word.

 

[giovanotti]

I would like to add, that my opinon is not based on Diegos performances this season. I think he was one of our best, and will improve if he gets the chance in the right conditions. Regardless of that, I think our team is better off with Aguero than Diego.

We shouldn't change our main players every year.
What if Del Neri fails and we appoint another coach who prefers 4-3-2-1 , Aguero is gonna be unneeded than? What than, should we sell Aguero or include him in some other deal to bring a lone striker?

What I'm trying to say is that the real coach knows what to do with the great players such is Diego. You have the diamond in the team but you can't use him, instead of that you are ready to include him in some kind of deal to bring another player. I don't like that idea, don't like it at all.

What now, Melo is worth 20 mil (was 25), Diego around 20(was 25) , and we want to get rid of those 2 ... Come on that's 10 mil loss from the start... not to mention that Diego can offer a lot to this team. THE COACHES WERE PROBLEM!

 

[Nicholas]

Aguero would be better suited to the 4-4-2 Gio there is no denying that.

 

[giovanotti]

Aguero would be better suited to the 4-4-2 Gio there is no denying that.

But Nick, why the hell do we need to change tactics every damn year...and in addition to that our main players?

Diego was brought here last year and 4-3-1-2 was attractive than... now a new coach and a new tactics is all about..
What than , another one with another tactics...

Not to mention that our scouts are completely lost in space and time... we all thought that our midfield with Melo-Sissoko would be the greatest in Europe but we found these 2 totally incompatible.

We certainly shouldn't allow to lose our main players every damn year.

 

[Nicholas]

But Nick, why the hell do we need to change tactics every damn year...and in addition to that our main players?

Diego was brought here last year and 4-3-1-2 was attractive than... now a new coach and a new tactics is all about..
What than , another one with another tactics...

Not to mention that our scouts are completely lost in space and time... we all thought that our midfield with Melo-Sissoko would be the greatest in Europe but we found these 2 totally incompatible.

We certainly shouldn't allow to lose our main players every damn year.

You raise a good issue however losing Diego and gaining Aguero is a likly trade man.

Diego is not a 4-4-2 man, I feel he is not direct enough to play the SS role and he'd be wasted out wide I'm sure. While Diego value is high I suggest keeping hold of Gio and releasing Diego in order to get Kun. Ideally Diego would be employed as a CM in a 4-4-2 but it will not happen under Del Neri.

Get Aguero,Krasic and keep Giovinco and thats out forward line sorted.

 

[JBF]

Climate, family, language. A lot of things other than money influences that decision. History matters. For some players alot, for others not at all.

None of the above are a big factor in such a decision. If he has a big offer than he feels would improve his career and wages for that matter he'll make sacrifices. The same reason that makes African, Asian and South American players leave their countries and families sometimes for different ones with a new language and climate in many cases.

History is irrespective in such a decision IMO when you've a big difference in two offers while certainly when it's a 50-50 situation a move to a bigger club with legacy would be the choice of almost every footballer.

I have a question. What the fuck makes City a more attractive club than Juventus if you take the history out of it?

Simply money and playing in the EPL, the league that is considered by many the best league in the world.

 

[giovanotti]

You raise a good issue however losing Diego and gaining Aguero is a likly trade man.

Diego is not a 4-4-2 man, I feel he is not direct enough to play the SS role and he'd be wasted out wide I'm sure. While Diego value is high I suggest keeping hold of Gio and releasing Diego in order to get Kun. Ideally Diego would be employed as a CM in a 4-4-2 but it will not happen under Del Neri.

Get Aguero,Krasic and keep Giovinco and thats out forward line sorted.

Well I'd go for that one.
I'd try him everywhere, the good coach could use such a good player and get benefits from that.
Ok I admit , he is one of my favorite players in this team but I really think that this guy is something special.
I pray we'll keep him.

 

[Jasp]

@ Gio

It is not that I don't see your point, and to some extent, I agree very much with what you are saying.

The question is not, for me at least, the skill of Diego, but the level of the team with Aguero compared to Diego. I think it is a wise move because as I understand football, we have a better team after the exchange than before.

I totally agree with, under normal circumstances you should not change key players very often. But nothing in the last 4 years has been normal. I don't think youre Del Neri failure argument is valid either. If he fails, we'll still need a supporting striker. Aguero can play in a 4312, 4321, 4231 and 442. As with DP, I would reckon 4231 suits him the least, but I still think he could play on the sides. If Gio can, aguero can as well. So in terms of failure, this move is not bad.

IMO the chance of Aguero is now. He will leave this summer I think, and then he'll be out of reach unless if he flops. The pros outweigh the cons, and I say go for it, if it at all possible.

 

[Nicholas]

Well I'd go for that one.
I'd try him everywhere, the good coach could use such a good player and get benefits from that.
Ok I admit , he is one of my favorite players in this team but I really think that this guy is something special.
I pray we'll keep him.

I'd love to get Aguero and keep Diego but I think if we get Aguero it will of the expense of Diego.

 

[giovanotti]

@ Gio

It is not that I don't see your point, and to some extent, I agree very much with what you are saying.

The question is not, for me at least, the skill of Diego, but the level of the team with Aguero compared to Diego. I think it is a wise move because as I understand football, we have a better team after the exchange than before.

I totally agree with, under normal circumstances you should not change key players very often. But nothing in the last 4 years has been normal. I don't think youre Del Neri failure is valid either. If he fails, we'll still need a supporting striker. Aguero can play in a 4312, 4321, 4231 and 442. As with DP, I would reckon 4231 suits him the least, but I still think he could play on the sides. If Gio can, aguero can as well. So in terms of failure, this move is not bad.

IMO the chance of Aguero is now. He will leave this summer I think, and then he'll be out of reach unless if he flops. The pros outweigh the cons, and I say go for it, if it at all possible.

Let's agree on this one, if we are able to pay them the full price or Tiago+cash than I'm for it.

 

[giovanotti]

I'd love to get Aguero and keep Diego but I think if we get Aguero it will of the expense of Diego.

Unfortunately Diego will be lost than.

 

[Juventino★★★]

No it is not a waste of money. I want to see quality players coming in, but the efense must be revamped. That we should agree on, right?

So I can see two ways of getting Aguero and a new defense. Unless we have 100M to spend :flag1: , it would have to be something like:

Diego + Tiago and €€€
Diego + Giovinco and more €€€

sure, we need strong defender beside chiellini

but im still against the idea of selling Diego to get Aguero because to think about them in the same team is worth sacrifice (more spending)

both likes fast tempo football (prandelli, del neri style of football), one touch, dribble when needed to find way to the wingers...etc they will link up good with strong wingers who can give them freedom to work the ball in the middle.... and in the end great players needs great players around them to get pressure of them...

imagine Kun and diego passing the ball around in counter attack with krasic and gio running on the wings

 

[Bozi]

I'd love to get Aguero and keep Diego but I think if we get Aguero it will of the expense of Diego.

unfortunately in Diego we bought a player who did not fit the system we play,then we tried to adapt the system and it did not work,now we are faced with a dilemma in that we have a new coach who does not suit his formation. as much as i am loathe to see Diego go i understand why it may be necessary to get a player of class,quality and with an excitement factor that will gte people to sit up and realise we are serious

 

[Jasp]

None of the above are a big factor in such a decision. If he has a big offer than he feels would improve his career and wages for that matter he'll make sacrifices. The same reason that makes African, Asian and South American players leave their countries and families sometimes for different ones with a new language and climate in many cases.

History is irrespective in such a decision IMO when you've a big difference in two offers while certainly when it's a 50-50 situation a move to a bigger club with legacy would be the choice of almost every footballer.

Simply money and playing in the EPL, the league that is considered by many the best league in the world.

If the wage gap increases you are definetly right. But poulsen did not go to turkey bc his wife did not want to. Arshavin is not happy in London. Robinho is not happy anywhere and Vidic said he misses better weather. I don't think it is fair to say that they do not matter at all.

I do agree that premier league is more attractive than serie a , though.