Sebastian Giovinco (39 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Lets see,Giovinco didn't really play under Deschamps.Ranieri & Ciro didn't know how to utilize his skills,he got between 5-10min to impress & you expect him to break into the first team?Not to forget that he actually did something with the little time he had at his disposal.

Yeah well he's arsenal bound & he will definitely do something with his talent.You can't even use paro & palladino as examples because they actually got to start a whole lot more games than Gio did.

I just mentioned melo & diego because they have had more games & time to play yet they aren't exactly setting the league on fire.My point is that these players are not being used to their potential nor their preferred positions.
But Byron ,we had a chance to watch him for the u21 Azzurri,he was excellent there,than for Empoli,then in several occasions for us too.He was good.
The thing that pisses me off is subs like Poulsen ,De Ceglie or Tiago while Giovinco stays on the bench.
 

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BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
Because he is tiny and Italians love tall players. The days of Baggio, Zola, Platini, etc are gone. DP may be the last of a dying breed. Play got less tactical and more physical which is why coaches are hesitant to field Gio. Very simple.


Side note: Giovinco has not flipped out or called out any coaches. He is pure class for keeping to himself and not going on a rant about why he's on the bench. (even though he would rightfully complain). If he was brazilian he would have either left or went on countless rants and hissy fits.
if he were brazilian he would be playing week in week out like he said some time ago
 

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
30,778
But Byron ,we had a chance to watch him for the u21 Azzurri,he was excellent there,than for Empoli,then in several occasions for us too.He was good.
The thing that pisses me off is subs like Poulsen ,De Ceglie or Tiago while Giovinco stays on the bench.
Whats the point of having all that defensive midfield cover if we can't field two offense minded players? Even if we upgrade the defense with a RB,LB & CB,the poor kid will still be sitting on the bench with an italian coach.

We play with DM on top of another DM & yet its still not yielding results so how can anyone write him off as yet? Untill he gets a consistent run of games & he sucks i'll stick by my word that he can offer this team something valuable.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Guys, Seba is still returning from injury just give it time and Zacc will play him as he's perfect for that 3-4-3 formation of his.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
I know he's back, but still he's coming back from injury thats why it would take time not to forget that he didn't have a starting role during Ciro's time so he kinda have to earn that.

It will take time but im confident that Zacc will field him soon.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Whats the point of having all that defensive midfield cover if we can't field two offense minded players? Even if we upgrade the defense with a RB,LB & CB,the poor kid will still be sitting on the bench with an italian coach.

We play with DM on top of another DM & yet its still not yielding results so how can anyone write him off as yet? Untill he gets a consistent run of games & he sucks i'll stick by my word that he can offer this team something valuable.
Yup,it's true Byron,it's 100% true.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Well its not my call but it seems Zacc is confident that its the solution so Im building my assumptions on that.
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
6,349
what's this pace everyone talks about? Giovinco has never ever outrun an opponent on the field. Iaquinta has pace, Caceras has pace. Giovinco running his little dwarf legs makes the opponent defender lol because he can jog and catch up with him.
you know the difference between pace and speed, don't you ?

iaquinta may be much faster than giovinco, but giovincos pace is something extraordinary

he has the ability to change directions fast and to be fast onto his top speed ... so if you dont like the word pace, we could call it acceleration.

when you compare the two attributes speed and pace/acceleration you will learn, that pure speed like iaquinta posses will only serve you well on a counter attack (or when the opponents defensive line is very high), because a even not so technical striker (iaquinta) could just play the ball past the defenders and run for it outrunning every defender, because they cant catch him.

speed does not bring you anything if the defensive line is deep or you are a striker that plays around the penalty box. there acceleration (or pace) is the better attribute, because with one feint you will go past one defender to have just enough space to shoot at goal.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
Oh, so not playing under Ranieri, Ferrara wasn't enough. Sorry, I forgot we're still waiting for the right coach.
I agree 100%.

Ciro knew players and Gio probably even better then CR, so why he did not use him then?

Its easier to play in under 21 squad with "youngsters" then with seniors.
 

nhilun

Junior Member
Dec 23, 2008
103
Forgotten Again: Sebastian Giovinco Is Wasting Away On Juventus' Bench

It’s easy to lose small things in a crowd. It’s easy for the shortest one in a group of giants to seemingly go unnoticed no matter what is happening around them.

That shouldn’t be the case with Sebastian Giovinco.

Small in stature yet blessed with incredible talent, Giovinco is the latest jewel to come out of the Juventus youth academy. He is the first name out of the mouth of many people when they talk about the next generation of Italian talent coming through the ranks that is ready to breakout.

Almost two years have gone by since he returned to Turin after a season on loan at Empoli. That was supposed to be the first step on Giovinco's road to stardom.

However, it hasn't gone as planned.

Three coaches have manned the sidelines since Giovinco came back from his loan spell in Tuscany, And with those three coaches at the helm, they have all failed to give Giovinco the chance to show what kind of player he can be with consistent playing time.

When Claudio Ranieri was shown his pink slip last May, one of the biggest complaints was how he kept a firm stance on easing Giovinco into the squad. Ranieri's felt like his way of keeping Giovinco on the bench for the better part of the season and running Pavel Nedved into the ground was the right move—even though he was in the strict minority.

That was supposed to change under Ciro Ferrara, who, despite the arrival of summer signing Diego, said he was going to work in everybody so the squad would stay fresh throughout the season. The fear amongst many people was that Giovinco would get the short end of the stick because of Diego's arrival and expected role in the squad.

They haven't been proven wrong yet.

Giovinco's chances to play under Ferrara were few and far between. He has started all of seven games this season—five in Serie A and two in the group stages of the Champions League. In the eight games he has come on as a sub, five of those have seen him step on to the field with less than 15 minutes to go.

When Alberto Zaccheroni took over for Ferrara two weeks ago, there was even more outcry for Giovinco to finally get his chance to play. Even though he was just coming back from injury, the system the 56-year-old Zaccheroni would employ was completely uncertain.

There was a certain thing, though. In all likelihood, it wouldn't involve Giovinco.

No matter what system Zaccheroni will end up going with for the rest of the season, there is little hope that Giovinco will play any kind of significant minutes. And if the new Juve manager continues to go with the squad he has selected since he took over two weeks ago, Giovinco looks to be, once again, on the outside looking in.

Not exactly what you call giving a kid a fair chance to prove what he can do.

But this is what we've seen happen the past two years. Juventus, especially this season, need some kind of spark to try and rejuvenate what has become their worst in recent memory. Everybody but the man deciding who starts knows Giovinco can bring that spark.

If he wants to leave, it will be completely understood as to why he's making that kind of choice. He loves Juventus with all his heart and nobody can deny that, but when it comes down to it, there’s only so much a player can take before he decides it’s time to move.

At age 23 and a chance of being part of Italy’s World Cup squad all but gone, Giovinco’s career stands at a crossroads. Does he stay with the club he grew up watching and eventually playing for or does he be selfish for once in his life and think about himself?

It should have never come to this.

The worst part is, as this saddening saga continues to go on, you can't help but wonder how good he could be right now if he was playing regularly.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Forgotten Again: Sebastian Giovinco Is Wasting Away On Juventus' Bench

It’s easy to lose small things in a crowd. It’s easy for the shortest one in a group of giants to seemingly go unnoticed no matter what is happening around them.

That shouldn’t be the case with Sebastian Giovinco.

Small in stature yet blessed with incredible talent, Giovinco is the latest jewel to come out of the Juventus youth academy. He is the first name out of the mouth of many people when they talk about the next generation of Italian talent coming through the ranks that is ready to breakout.

Almost two years have gone by since he returned to Turin after a season on loan at Empoli. That was supposed to be the first step on Giovinco's road to stardom.

However, it hasn't gone as planned.

Three coaches have manned the sidelines since Giovinco came back from his loan spell in Tuscany, And with those three coaches at the helm, they have all failed to give Giovinco the chance to show what kind of player he can be with consistent playing time.

When Claudio Ranieri was shown his pink slip last May, one of the biggest complaints was how he kept a firm stance on easing Giovinco into the squad. Ranieri's felt like his way of keeping Giovinco on the bench for the better part of the season and running Pavel Nedved into the ground was the right move—even though he was in the strict minority.

That was supposed to change under Ciro Ferrara, who, despite the arrival of summer signing Diego, said he was going to work in everybody so the squad would stay fresh throughout the season. The fear amongst many people was that Giovinco would get the short end of the stick because of Diego's arrival and expected role in the squad.

They haven't been proven wrong yet.

Giovinco's chances to play under Ferrara were few and far between. He has started all of seven games this season—five in Serie A and two in the group stages of the Champions League. In the eight games he has come on as a sub, five of those have seen him step on to the field with less than 15 minutes to go.

When Alberto Zaccheroni took over for Ferrara two weeks ago, there was even more outcry for Giovinco to finally get his chance to play. Even though he was just coming back from injury, the system the 56-year-old Zaccheroni would employ was completely uncertain.

There was a certain thing, though. In all likelihood, it wouldn't involve Giovinco.

No matter what system Zaccheroni will end up going with for the rest of the season, there is little hope that Giovinco will play any kind of significant minutes. And if the new Juve manager continues to go with the squad he has selected since he took over two weeks ago, Giovinco looks to be, once again, on the outside looking in.

Not exactly what you call giving a kid a fair chance to prove what he can do.


But this is what we've seen happen the past two years. Juventus, especially this season, need some kind of spark to try and rejuvenate what has become their worst in recent memory. Everybody but the man deciding who starts knows Giovinco can bring that spark.

If he wants to leave, it will be completely understood as to why he's making that kind of choice. He loves Juventus with all his heart and nobody can deny that, but when it comes down to it, there’s only so much a player can take before he decides it’s time to move.

At age 23 and a chance of being part of Italy’s World Cup squad all but gone, Giovinco’s career stands at a crossroads. Does he stay with the club he grew up watching and eventually playing for or does he be selfish for once in his life and think about himself?

It should have never come to this.


The worst part is, as this saddening saga continues to go on, you can't help but wonder how good he could be right now if he was playing regularly.
The bolded sections unfortunately highlight what we do and why it's wrong. Sadly, our youth policies are absolutely disgraceful.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
I agree 100%.

Ciro knew players and Gio probably even better then CR, so why he did not use him then?

Its easier to play in under 21 squad with "youngsters" then with seniors.
Come on, for the love of god!! Gio played in serie A in he's first season "ever" and scored 6 goals plus countless of assists to he's teammates (even though he didn't start half of the games there). Last season as someone here mentioned he barely played some games in our team yet he was the 2nd highest assist in the team!!

So all this myth about making it with the U-21 but couldn't cut it with the senior teams is pure BS am sorry.
 

Calcio

Junior Member
Aug 21, 2009
123
the only way for Gio to get playing time, is under a foreign coach, or a coach like Prandelli, Allegri etc...the new generation of Italian coaches (not including Super-defensive-Italian-Coach-Ferrara)
 

RAMI-N

★ ★ ★
Aug 22, 2006
21,473
Come on, for the love of god!! Gio played in serie A in he's first season "ever" and scored 6 goals plus countless of assists to he's teammates (even though he didn't start half of the games there). Last season as someone here mentioned he barely played some games in our team yet he was the 2nd highest assist in the team!!

So all this myth about making it with the U-21 but couldn't cut it with the senior teams is pure BS am sorry.
Spot on :tup:
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,087
:lol: I was just reading on a Swedish forum and they are calling young players sitting on the bench "a new Giovinco". Thats funny and sad at the same time. But hey, at least Giovinco left a mark, although its a bad one it still counts.
 

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