Sebastian Giovinco (70 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

I am talking about how you are saying that everyone other than you is a typical ignorant supporter of a big club

I've never, ever said that. I simply made an observation. It never had anything to do with being a "real fan", which you originally claimed. If you think the observation is wrong, you need to prove it wrong instead of insulting me.

 

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[Suns]

Suns, I have a question for you, and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Why would a club purposely try to ruin one of their own player's career? Isn't that just bad business sense?

I'm not saying they purposely did that but thats how it turned out in the end.

 

[Osman]

You are like a Barcelona supporter, you know nothing of how to support a club. Look at Andy and learn.

Dont involve me in your BS with him.

 

[Bjerknes]

You stopped about the real/fake supporter a long ago when I mocked the shit out of you.

Now you have a new tune, you fuck face.

You also went on about the Barca fan stuff, but that's in the past now.

 

[Nenz]

I guess so, but still I don't see him ever reaching Cassano's levels. His past 2 seasons at Sampdoria have been bliss to watch.

Well only time can really tell. I bet a lot of people didn't expected Cassano's Samp form while he was at Real.

 

[Alen]

Here's my take on Giovinco in Juve.

The media did a lot of harm. The very talented fragile boy was hyped up to the sky and made out to be the new Baggio, new Del Piero. That usually gets to a young fellow and I won't be surprised if Seba did start thinking that he's all that.
The club took it to another extreme. The current coach at the time didn't think Seba was ready and didn't give him much chances. I think we did wrong here. Even if Seba wasn't ready yet, his talent alone should have forced us to give him more chances.

Everything started going downhill from there. Seba thought he's the next big thing and in the next moment he sees that the coach doesn't play him, as well as the new coach. That was probably a hurricane in Giovinco's head. He tried and the more he tried and felt the pressure to prove the others wrong, the more it didn't work. Then the injuries started hunting him down.

A mixture of many things led to what's happening today. In that situation loaning him might be proven to be the right thing to do. He needed a new environment to clear his head.

 

[JCK]

I've never, ever said that. I simply made an observation. It never had anything to do with being a "real fan", which you originally claimed. If you think the observation is wrong, you need to prove it wrong instead of insulting me.

I don't to prove anything to you, dickface! You are the one who calls us fans of big clubs who expect everything on a silver platter, you are the one who tells us we are no different than Barcelona fans, spoilt and support the club blindly, yet you don't tell us how is it supposed to do.

You talk out of your ass but that's only because you ARE an ass.

 

[Nicholas]

Well only time can really tell. I bet a lot of people didn't expected Cassano's Samp form while he was at Real.

Really?

Everyone saw Cassano's raw talent levels at such a young age. It was only a matter of time before he exploded.

 

[Bjerknes]

That's because there is a lack of reasoning on this forum. When I critisized Marotta for having a shit mercato I got jumped on for being a negative knee jerker by a large portion of the forum. Andy's critisism is really just an answer to this new popular opinion that anyone who thinks anything negative about Juventus is a knee jerker and a whiner.

That's where all this crap originated from. We were the ones that got jumped on, not the other way around.

 

[JCK]

You also went on about the Barca fan stuff, but that's in the past now.

But now you brought in something new, retard.

 

[swag]

You must be joking.

All what Seba needs is to settle in one club,and that what Antonio was suffering from when he was at Seba's age.

Huge difference. Cassano was a prodigy at 19-20 with a goalscoring prowess that everyone recognized as the future striker of Italy. Giovinco was a U21 prospect, always carrying around the asterisk of his size.

Cassano went to Real Madrid, lacked motivation, and floundered. Giovinco was on a club just promoted from Serie B and never got the trust, but also never showed the consistency.

Nobody is talking about what a travesty it is that the Italy NT hasn't called up Giovinco. I don't expect that to ever happen, really -- even if he probably will get called up if he stays at a club like Parma. But if Giovinco were to go to Milan or Roma or (if you can imagine) Real Madrid, we'd never hear from him again.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Ban them all.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

A mixture of many things led to what's happening today. In that situation loaning him might be proven to be the right thing to do. He needed a new environment to clear his head.

But we basically sold him. There is no way Parma won't take the chance. Old Juventus could get him back like we did with Chiellini but current Juve has no weight nor influence.

 

[Byrone]

But we basically sold him. There is no way Parma won't take the chance. Old Juventus could get him back like we did with Chiellini but current Juve is like a punch bag.

 

[Salvatore]

I thought it was obvious that he would get a lot of media attention if he performed well at Parma, especially questions about Juventus. He's a huge talking point for a player who has shown just promise (on top of being labelled the next Del Piero), journalists will be all over him above any other Parma player after matches, and controversial questions are their thing. I found it funny in the FI article, "Parma midfielder Sebastian Giovinco has promised to celebrate if he scores against Juventus this season", trying to stir up some controversy.

He's not even attacking the club. Players don't take up football to be loyal to one club above all others, they do it for a living. It's his career, not Juventus'. What he said in the interview was truth though, it was the fans who got behind him but nobody at the club wanted to make the same commitment. It's not like he's saying he'll run over to the Juventus support and perform a gesto dell'ombrello.

I find it weird that fans find that players have to have some sort of honour to this club. Sort of like when we got relegated in Serie B, and a certain player who said that the players won those two Scudetti on the pitch fairly, yet he gets slaughtered by some (naming him a traitor) because Juventus sold him to the club who was offering the most money (which benefited Juventus after all).

 

[swag]

Forza Punch Bag :flag1:

Soon to be Colostomy Bag

 

[bianconero]

Really?

Everyone saw Cassano's raw talent levels at such a young age. It was only a matter of time before he exploded.

Indeed. I saw playing against Juve when he was still a teenager at Bari, and it was evident that he was a great talent. He won't be tge last player , or manager, to have failed at Real.

 

[Salvatore]

7 goals against Juventus in his career, that Antonio. As if we needed more incentive to get him, he's hurting the results our team obtains.

 

[Suns]

I thought it was obvious that he would get a lot of media attention if he performed well at Parma, especially questions about Juventus. He's a huge talking point for a player who has shown just promise (on top of being labelled the next Del Piero), journalists will be all over him above any other Parma player after matches, and controversial questions are their thing. I found it funny in the FI article, "Parma midfielder Sebastian Giovinco has promised to celebrate if he scores against Juventus this season", trying to stir up some controversy.

He's not even attacking the club. Players don't take up football to be loyal to one club above all others, they do it for a living. It's his career, not Juventus'. What he said in the interview was truth though, it was the fans who got behind him but nobody at the club wanted to make the same commitment. It's not like he's saying he'll run over to the Juventus support and perform a gesto dell'ombrello.

I find it weird that fans find that players have to have some sort of honour to this club. Sort of like when we got relegated in Serie B, and a certain player who said that the players won those two Scudetti on the pitch fairly, yet he gets slaughtered by some (naming him a traitor) because Juventus sold him to the club who was offering the most money (which benefited Juventus after all).

+rep

 

[JuveJay]

He's not even attacking the club. Players don't take up football to be loyal to one club above all others, they do it for a living. It's his career, not Juventus'.

He's a Juve fan or he isn't, he doesn't have a technical debt to us but if he really is Juventino then it makes his comments poorly thought out. He has certainly whined a lot since he has been out of the side and then at Parma, even thought he acknowledged he could have done a lot better in terms of performances.