Sebastian Giovinco (74 Viewers)

[JCK]

Nobody is saying not to criticise the club but when that criticism is in every other post I can understand Jack in saying it gets rather monotonous. Everyone is free to share their views and beliefs but once aired is it worth getting the dirty laundry out again?

Have you really been reading Andy's posts lately, you apparently don't know how to support your club. Learn from him a thing or two.

 

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[Bjerknes]

As I told you minutes ago, SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Or tell us how a real supporter of a big club should support his/her club, just don't go telling what we should not do.

You seem to be the one who continues to bring this "real fan" crap up. I personally think the discussion is a load of horseshit.

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2765262

 

[Nicholas]

A forum is part of real life. Its not an embodiment of real life but its a component. And in forums there is diversity of opinion, I don't get how you can come on here not expecting to see that.

All the time?

A lot of people deal with shit day in day out and forum is a past time,something that should be enjoyable. Over the past 18 months the atmosphere has gone downhill in here and day to day it seems like a choir to post. I potentially speak for a few people when they just come to the forum to just read instead of post these days which is a sad sad thing.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It's not a rash decision, this place is not for me, this place is for the mature big club fans like Andy who knows how to support, it is a place for those who think making fun of one's eyes is acceptable, it is a place to whine and cry, it is a place to wait for assholes to bash the club so that the real fans praise them, it is a place bring down the club rather than support it.

I am not any of these.

So what? Theres always posters that overly pessimistic and complain about everything.

Are you seriously considering not posting here anymore over this?

 

[Gamaro]

Maybe now Cassano > Seba,but in a couple of years Seba will be greater.

 

[JCK]

You seem to be the one who continues to bring this "real fan" crap up. I personally think the discussion is a load of horseshit.

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2765262

Yet you ignored the person who started it:

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2690381&postcount=11211

But that's not new, Andy. Everyone in here knows you are a big fucking hypocrite, the problem is how can you live with that where you go singing hate on hypocrites.

Shut it faster than you can imagine.

 

[Nicholas]

Maybe now Cassano > Seba,but in a couple of years Seba will be greater.

Seriously?

I don't think Giovinco possesses a fraction of the talent Cassano has.

 

[JCK]

So what? Theres always posters that overly pessimistic and complain about everything.

Are you seriously considering not posting here anymore over this?

Until I get banned. I am in no mood in seeing a loud dog barking about how wrong I support the club without hearing how it should be done.

 

[Nenz]

Diversity in opinion is welcome but some moron telling thousands that the way they support their club is wrong without giving any idea on how it should be done is something different.

I don't exactly see how that's true in Andy's case. He's not stupid. He always explains the reasoning behind his criticism he just does it really passionately. There are tons of members on here who state contentions without explaining their reasoning behind it. I would say there is close to a majority.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yet you ignored the person who started it:

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2690381&postcount=11211

But that's not new, Andy. Everyone in here knows you are a big fucking hypocrite, the problem is how can you live with that where you go singing hate on hypocrites.

Shut it faster than you can imagine.

That has NOTHING to do with who is a "real fan." Rather, it's about the mentality that Juve can do no wrong. It's called an observation.

But yes, you need your meds today.

 

[JCK]

I don't exactly see how that's true in Andy's case. He's not stupid. He always explains the reasoning behind his criticism he just does it really passionately. There are tons of members on here who state contentions without explaining their reasoning behind it. I would say there is close to a majority.

Since Sunday he's been on about how we are ignorant supporters without any reasoning.

 

[KB824]

We tried to fuck his career up, simple. He was always good and we never gave him the chance. If we'd given him the chance, by now he could have been so far along in his career, instead we treated him unfairly and did everything do to hinder his progress and now he has to start all over again with Parma.

Anyway, all of this doesn't really matter at this point, I've had a feeling about the relationship between him and Juventus was over and this just proves that. This is it, its over..

The thing is, I can't blame him, from his part, he did everything correctly. He played good when given the chance, didn't complain when he was benched and was always loyal to the club. Us on the other hand, we never believed in him and we basically tried to fuck his career up without caring. We acted like complete jerk offs towards him. How can a club have one of the finest talents out there who happens to support the club, be from the city and got his football education in the club and not give him the chance? Shouldn't they have a soft spot for players like that? Look, we always expect the players to act loyal to the club but what about our own club, don't they have to be loyal to its own, especially to players who supported the club?

Suns, I have a question for you, and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Why would a club purposely try to ruin one of their own player's career? Isn't that just bad business sense?

 

[Nicholas]

I am quite and ignorant supporter to be fair, when I go to watch Juventus live I watch the game and ignore everyone else around me

 

[JCK]

That has NOTHING to do with who is a "real fan." Rather, it's about the mentality that Juve can do no wrong. It's called an observation.

But yes, you need your meds today.

I am not talking about real and fake fans you retard, I am talking about how you are saying that everyone other than you is a typical ignorant supporter of a big club, you idiot. Did you get that in you thick skull of yours?

 

[Bjerknes]

Since Sunday he's been on about how we are ignorant supporters without any reasoning.

First I was saying so and so isn't a real supporter, now I'm calling people ignorant supporters without reason.

Need to gather some consistency here.

But yes, I get it. SHUT THE FUCK UP ANDY.

 

[Nicholas]

Suns, I have a question for you, and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Why would a club purposely try to ruin one of their own player's career? Isn't that just bad business sense?

:wub:

 

[JCK]

First I was saying so and so isn't a real supporter, now I'm calling people ignorant supporters without reason.

Need to gather some consistency here.

But yes, I get it. SHUT THE FUCK UP ANDY.

You stopped about the real/fake supporter a long ago when I mocked the shit out of you.

Now you have a new tune, you fuck face.

 

[Gamaro]

Seriously?

I don't think Giovinco possesses a fraction of the talent Cassano has.

You must be joking.

All what Seba needs is to settle in one club,and that what Antonio was suffering from when he was at Seba's age.

 

[Nicholas]

You must be joking.

All what Seba needs is to settle in one club,and that what Antonio was suffering from when he was at Seba's age.

I guess so, but still I don't see him ever reaching Cassano's levels. His past 2 seasons at Sampdoria have been bliss to watch.

 

[Nenz]

Since Sunday he's been on about how we are ignorant supporters without any reasoning.

That's because there is a lack of reasoning on this forum. When I critisized Marotta for having a shit mercato I got jumped on for being a negative knee jerker by a large portion of the forum. Andy's critisism is really just an answer to this new popular opinion that anyone who thinks anything negative about Juventus is a knee jerker and a whiner.

Even critisizing of other members should be ok as long as its not particularly personal and there's an explanation behind it.