Sebastian Giovinco (64 Viewers)

[vimo]

He should leave! I really like this guy, but under this coach he won't get any chance. 2-0 up against Chievo......I really can't understand why he wasn't subbed in

you must be out of your mind.
We need to get one thing straight; Giovinco is NOT more important than juventus. full stop. De Ceglie is just as much of a promising youngster as giovinco, so if de ceglie plays a decent game, there's nothing to say. Why should giovinco be better than De Ceglie? Because during preseason DC wasn't in the headlines of every tuttosport?

I agree that against chievo, he could have been subbed in for the last 10mins or so, but still. There's nothing to complain about. We're winning with our system, why change it. Once we have our 2 DMs back on the pitch, seba will get his chances.
He didn't sign a 5-year contract for nothing.

 

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[Sir Psycho Sexy]

This is the reason...

...he really is boning Ranieri's grandaughter







j/k

he drives a fiat? ... hmmm free from juve?

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

who are those girls anyways ?

 

[Enoran]

Maybe .... The senior players might even be sponsored to drive Alfa, Mesarati or Ferrari

 

[A_LAcki]

you must be out of your mind.
We need to get one thing straight; Giovinco is NOT more important than juventus. full stop. De Ceglie is just as much of a promising youngster as giovinco, so if de ceglie plays a decent game, there's nothing to say. Why should giovinco be better than De Ceglie? Because during preseason DC wasn't in the headlines of every tuttosport?

I agree that against chievo, he could have been subbed in for the last 10mins or so, but still. There's nothing to complain about. We're winning with our system, why change it. Once we have our 2 DMs back on the pitch, seba will get his chances.
He didn't sign a 5-year contract for nothing.

I just see how this story will end. We will continue to play good, but when Nedved is rested, DC will replace him and Giovinco will continue to warm the bench. Don't get me wrong, I like DC, but we all know what Giovinco could add to this team. In every game he played, he made an impact.
Its just Ranieris tactics and Giovincos lack of defensive skills. Thats why he doesn't play IMO. Really sad.

 

[xkorpyon]

Why Ranieri, Why?? Be a man and tell why don't you put Giovinco playing!!
If is because he lack of defensive skills, Giovinco can play as a support striker!!!! That ca not be an excuse!!!

 

[only-juve]

you must be out of your mind.
We need to get one thing straight; Giovinco is NOT more important than juventus. full stop. De Ceglie is just as much of a promising youngster as giovinco, so if de ceglie plays a decent game, there's nothing to say. Why should giovinco be better than De Ceglie? Because during preseason DC wasn't in the headlines of every tuttosport?He didn't sign a 5-year contract for nothing.

Wrong my friend, giovinco is much much better than DC (with all do respect for the guy). DC is a decent player (no more or less). What did DC produce "offensively" in the last game against chievo "absalutely nothing". The guy is a hard working player who covers well defensively (thats why ranieri is in love with him) but other than that he just don't add anything for this team.

Giovinco is the most talented young player currently in italy. He can create many chances for he's side plus scoring goals himself. As i said before, ranieri simply doesn't know what to do with giovinco.

 

[Osman]

vimo, you are going as far to defend Giovinco being benched permanently, by actually saying that not only should De Ceglie the defender play before Gio in Gio's own attacking midfielder position, but you seriously say De Ceglie is anywhere close to as talented as Giovinco?

Seriously, what gives man? De Ceglie is quite decent, and a good partner in crime for Giovinco down the left, but I have seen them together in azzurrini for over a year, and Giovinco was way above everyone else in that team, not just De Ceglie. Its no insult, he isnt just anywhere close to him as a player.

 

[Ahmed]

Why Ranieri, Why?? Be a man and tell why don't you put Giovinco playing!!
If is because he lack of defensive skills, Giovinco can play as a support striker!!!! That ca not be an excuse!!!

 

[vimo]

vimo, you are going as far to defend Giovinco being benched permanently, by actually saying that not only should De Ceglie the defender play before Gio in Gio's own attacking midfielder position, but you seriously say De Ceglie is anywhere close to as talented as Giovinco?

Seriously, what gives man? De Ceglie is quite decent, and a good partner in crime for Giovinco down the left, but I have seen them together in azzurrini for over a year, and Giovinco was way above everyone else in that team, not just De Ceglie. Its no insult, he isnt just anywhere close to him as a player.

I don't mean to offend anybody, but i think a lot of people are just too excited with this "giovinco is the new del piero"-hype. Seriously, i know giovinco has an incredible talent, and i followed nearly ALL of his games (be it azzurrini, as well as empoli) and the thing is; he is a superb player, but let's not underrate DC! DC doesn't do the fancy stuff, he does not get passed an opponent like gio, but De ceglie is one hell of a hard worker. And if we need someone who helps out molinaro in defense, then i'm all for DC instead of giovinco.

Let me remind you that we haven't won one single game with giovinco playing. now i know that he's been used out of position, coming in too late etc etc. but still, it's not like giovinco is the answer to all our questions. So far, giovinco did not convince me. He did convince playing in Beijing, and at that u21 tournament and probably also last year with empoli, but it's not like he revolutionized our play when he came on. In fact he lost some balls quite easily (reminded me of palladino a bit, yet i DO know that he's being used out of position etc).

Everyone talking about giving him away now or anything is just insane. Giovinco will get his time to play, there will be more than enough chances for him to shine, believe me. And it's not like everything should evolve around giovinco now, only because he is that supertalent. Look at balotelli, look at messi (2 or 3 years ago), look at all the other youngsters, everyone needs to be patient and wait for his chance, and then take it.

I see no reason whatsoever to criticize anyone for not playing giovinco. We don't know what's going on in trainings etc. Who tells you that giovinco gives that much more to the team than DC? No one could possibly tell you that. It's just the media which hyped up this young boy, and probably that's his biggest problem now! It's these expectations that make him problems now, because if he gets his playing time now, everyone will be looking at him and expecting him to be the matchwinner... I'm sure giovinco will play his part in juventus some time, and i'm sure you're all looking for problems where there aren't any.

 

[Osman]

Some use that argument as jest mainly, but you really are using the "Let me remind you that we haven't won one single game with giovinco playing" crap as a serious argument.

And overly criticising his performances when he gets to come in only 15 mins or so, is also really typical BS. Make it sound like he has flopped, when we has started in 3 games, 2 of them he assisted 3 times, the 3rd game he was average because the whole team was average.

And I DID NOT say he is the answer to our problems, but he is CONSIDERABLY better then e Ceglie, and thats me still thinking De Ceglie is quite good talent. There is no comparison, really not even close. And NO, I am not saying this because convenient crap like media hype, but that I actually seen he is genuinly a quality player with my own eyes, even in the few times he started for Juve, he showed he can actually create in a team that can create for SHIT.

And I was in your cautious l"ets give Ranieri time to take the pressure off him and play gradually" camp a while ago. But now its ever more clear its simply about Ranieri NOT wanting to play him, not protecting him. And yes, when we are facing the worst team in the league, and a defender, and an insanely useless Marchionni gets to play attacking midfielder over him, then yes, I DO WORRY, for a very good reason. Its not I am demanding he should start every game, but doesnt even get one single second for a while now, frigging defenders get to play before him. There is really no excusing this. And stop with the BSing excusing of it by saying he has flopped or such when he has played, its really weak.

 

[Alen]

Osman, i had to -rep you.
Check the User CP for the reason.

 

[only-juve]

Some use that argument as jest mainly, but you really are using the "Let me remind you that we haven't won one single game with giovinco playing" crap as a serious argument.

And overly criticising his performances when he gets to come in only 15 mins or so, is also really typical BS. Make it sound like he has flopped, when we has started in 3 games, 2 of them he assisted 3 times, the 3rd game he was average because the whole team was average.

And I DID NOT say he is the answer to our problems, but he is CONSIDERABLY better then e Ceglie, and thats me still thinking De Ceglie is quite good talent. There is no comparison, really not even close. And NO, I am not saying this because convenient crap like media hype, but that I actually seen he is genuinly a quality player with my own eyes, even in the few times he started for Juve, he showed he can actually create in a team that can create for SHIT.

And I was in your cautious l"ets give Ranieri time to take the pressure off him and play gradually" camp a while ago. But now its ever more clear its simply about Ranieri NOT wanting to play him, not protecting him. And yes, when we are facing the worst team in the league, and a defender, and an insanely useless Marchionni gets to play attacking midfielder over him, then yes, I DO WORRY, for a very good reason. Its not I am demanding he should start every game, but doesnt even get one single second for a while now, frigging defenders get to play before him. There is really no excusing this. And stop with the BSing excusing of it by saying he has flopped or such when he has played, its really weak.

you're right...

 

[Osman]

I cant use that Galliani gold mine material? Not fair

I am not big enough Milan hatah to put in the detective effort to find the gold mine stuff you find So I have to make do with your exemplary findings, it MUST be shared even if its with perdenti

 

[vimo]

look osman, i see your point, but i don't agree. But it's not a problem. Different opinions are what make this forum interesting. I'm just going to say that giovinco WILL get his chance to play and i find it quite unfair to criticize ranieri now. I mean, if we lose, he gets bashed, if we win, he gets bashed for not playing someone. it starts getting ridiculous. But since we're all better managers than those in charge, i'll just let the argument go. You can all go on making the 'better' lineups and finding new reasons why to hate everyone and everything, i'll just sit back and enjoy my juve, with or without giovinco.

 

[Osman]

I would appriciate it if you didnt take out the frustration you feel over others on me

 

[Seven]

Italian youngsters get to play alot. In Giovincos case, the reason why he hasnt played more is a combinantion of Ranieris lack of boldness and his policy to downplay his importance in the squad.

Dai, non prendermi in giro.

 

[La_Fidanzata]

dunno?

 

[v1rtu4l]

I see no reason whatsoever to criticize anyone for not playing giovinco. We don't know what's going on in trainings etc. Who tells you that giovinco gives that much more to the team than DC? No one could possibly tell you that. It's just the media which hyped up this young boy, and probably that's his biggest problem now! It's these expectations that make him problems now, because if he gets his playing time now, everyone will be looking at him and expecting him to be the matchwinner... I'm sure giovinco will play his part in juventus some time, and i'm sure you're all looking for problems where there aren't any.

i totally agree ... a important factor is, that we do not know how giovinco is in training. ranieri is in no way someone that does not play youngsters ... he did play palladino pretty often and has been playing him even if he had played shit before and before that with parma he did heavily rely on g. rossi who was even more young than giovinco is now.

it is very likely that the reason for giovinco not playing is a valid one.
as if ranieri would not like to be praised be the media for integrating giovinco and winning all our games with great attacking football. something does convince ranieri, that it is not right to play him now, so have a little confidence in him.

many of you did already have to eat your words, when you claimed that the only way was downwards when we stick to ranieri.

i for myself am confident that giovinco will get his 15 - 20 appearances and this is enough for his first season that he is with us again . . . as already mentioned, there is nothing he did for US that gives him an extra bonus to be played.

 

[rounder]

Is there any word if he will start tonight?