Yup, plus He talks about those 3 strikers like he is confident 1 of them would really be moving to Juve..
I hope he is right!
I hope he is right!
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Scommessopoli : 2009-2010 betting Scandal in Italy (yes, this again :sergio:) (9 Viewers)
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Gazzetta are reporting that the only "evidence" they have on Criscito is one picture of him with Sculli and a supposedly convicted Bosnian criminal notorious for match fixing. It is very unclear what the meeting was about, but I'd have to say that a guy like Criscito, who is being massacred, deserves a bit more cautious research.
So, more and more is coming out of Carobbio's statements.
Football-italia.net: Siena respond to betting allegations
This hasn't been in the media yet. Conte and the others refused. So, assuming Corabbio's words are true, they did not follow the order of the president. The trouble now is this weak law, punishing everybody who knows of manipulation and is not putting a criminal complaint. Again, why should a trainer put a complaint against his own team? However, to me it's not even proven this can be seen as full attempt of match fixing since Conte and the squad had it at their hands. They did not follow and ended it.
Football-italia.net: Siena respond to betting allegations
This hasn't been in the media yet. Conte and the others refused. So, assuming Corabbio's words are true, they did not follow the order of the president. The trouble now is this weak law, punishing everybody who knows of manipulation and is not putting a criminal complaint. Again, why should a trainer put a complaint against his own team? However, to me it's not even proven this can be seen as full attempt of match fixing since Conte and the squad had it at their hands. They did not follow and ended it.
. Remember Sörensen in 2004. Exact same situation.
An article back from March, could someone translate it?
http://www.repubblica.it/sport/calcio/2012/03/11/news/calcioscommesse_zingaro-31332471/
http://www.repubblica.it/sport/calcio/2012/03/11/news/calcioscommesse_zingaro-31332471/
Got to feel sorry for Criscito if he misses they Euros purely because of evidence as flimsy as that.
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Gianello (Napoli reserve 'keeper) asked Paolo Cannavaro and Grava to throw a game against Sampdoria (Samp 1-0 Napoli, May 2010), but they both refused.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calci...rtiva-alterata-samp-napoli-911384448507.shtml
Still, that would put those players in the same situation as Conte could be in - in trouble for being aware of match-fixing and failing to report it to the authorities.
---------- Post added 30.05.2012 at 17:34 ----------
Gianello (Napoli reserve 'keeper) asked Paolo Cannavaro and Grava to throw a game against Sampdoria (Samp 1-0 Napoli, May 2010), but they both refused.
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Calci...rtiva-alterata-samp-napoli-911384448507.shtml
Still, that would put those players in the same situation as Conte could be in - in trouble for being aware of match-fixing and failing to report it to the authorities.
@Red: yeah. However, this law is weak and needs to be fixed.
Especially regarding Conte. Of course the president has tried to setup the game. The question now is: Did Conte and the squad really break the law? Can it even be counted as a try of matchfixing if they had it in their own hands? Can the law force them to report this incident even though it has been avoided by them and was without consequences. I mean by reporting the incident they would "hurt" themselves...
Especially regarding Conte. Of course the president has tried to setup the game. The question now is: Did Conte and the squad really break the law? Can it even be counted as a try of matchfixing if they had it in their own hands? Can the law force them to report this incident even though it has been avoided by them and was without consequences. I mean by reporting the incident they would "hurt" themselves...
* Summary of main points of various Italian media reports.
- 75 games in Serie A/B are under investigation by Prosecutor
offices in Bari, Cremona and Naples.
- # of Clubs u/investigations; Serie A = 11; Serie B = 17
- Serie A Clubs that risk point/s deduction are:
Atalanta, Bologna, Cesena, Chievo, Genoa, Lazio, Napoli, Novara
and Udinese.
-Clubs where Executives, Director/s, Coaches are involved face
relegation. Lecce and Siena risk point/s deduction to relegation.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in
Cremona arrived @ FIGC, Federal prosecutor Palazzi office in
Rome on May 8, 2012.
- The following was reported as breakdown of 1st referrals by FIGC:
22 clubs.
33 games; 29 from Serie B, 2 from Tim Cup, 2 from Leg Pro.
52 Active players and 2 former players.
4 Club Executives / Club employees.
3 Coaches/Technical Staff of which 2 are still active.
- Serie A Clubs effected in the 1st referrals are:
Atalanta, Novara and Siena.
- On May 9, 2012, the witnesses and charged were notified and FIGC
send the 1st referrals to the Disciplinary Commission.
- On May 31, 2012 Disciplinary Commission will begin hearings from
the 1st referrals forwarded by Federal prosecutor Palazzi office.
1st Trial is likely to begin in June, 2012 and finish before Euros.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in Naples
will arrive @ FIGC, Federal Prosecutor office in Rome in 24-72 hrs.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in Bari
will arrive @ FIGC, Federal Prosecutor office in Rome June 2012.
- The witnesses and charged will be notified and then FIGC will
send the 2nd Referrals to the Disciplinary Commission.
- 2nd Trial is likely to be in July & finish before August 2, 2012.
(3rd qualifying round of EL)
- Serie A clubs that could be part of 2nd referrals are:
Chievo, Genoa, Lazio, Lecce, Napoli, Udinese and possibly
Bologna and Cesena.
* FIGC and CONI will likely apply points deduction to 2011/2012.
- Likely bans for players and illegal bettors by FIGC will be:
a) 1 year ban from all football activities for anyone who was asked
to fix a game, refused but then failed to report it.
b) 2 years ban for anyone who placed a bet but didn't play in game.
c) 5 year ban to player who agreed to fix the game and played in it.
- Anyone who is charged but cooperatives with The Federal
Prosecutor Palazzi office will get reduced ban per 2007 law.
- FIGC has re-confirmed Code of Sports Justice of FIGC for Strict
liability will apply.
(Club will be held liable for their member/s and player/s actions)
- Atalanta risk another -7 points
Under investigation are the following games from 2010/2011 season.
Atalanta - Piacenza
Ascoli - Atalanta
Padova - Atalanta
* In August 2011 Atlanta were docked -6 points and Doni banned for
3.5 years from all football activities.
- Bologna risk -2 points
Under investigation is the following game from 2010/2011 season.
Bologna - Bari
Cesena risk -3 points
Under investigation is Marco Rossi and the following game from
2010/2011 season.
Cesena - Bari
Chievo risk -3 to -6 points
Under investigation are Pellissier, Luciano and the following games
from 2010/2011 season.
Brescia - Chievo
Bari - Chievo
Inter - Chievo
- Genoa risk -2 points
Under investigation are Milanetto, Dainelli and the following game
from 2010/2011 season.
Lazio - Genoa
- Lazio risk -7 points and no Europe.
Under investigation are Ledsema, Mauri and Brocchi and the
following games from 2010/2011 season.
Lazio - Genoa
Lecce - Lazio
- Napoli risk point/s and no Europe and Gianello, P. Cannavaro,
Grava and Cossato brothers risks bans.
Under investigation is the following game from 2010/2011.
Sampdoria 1-0 Napoli on May 16, 2010
Gianello, the former G.K. of Napoli has stated to the prosecutor
office he made attempt on behalf of the bettor/s for Napoli to
lose game vs. Samp on May 16, 2010. In the dressing room he asked
P. Cannavaro and Grava to fix the game, however both refused.
Also, Gianello has admitted to the prosecutor office that it is his
voice on the wiretaps with Ex-Chievo player Cossato.
* Mascara is under investigation for the Lecce - Napoli game.
- Novara risk points
Under investigation are the following games from 2010 Coppa Italia.
Chiero - Novara
Novara - Cyrene
- Udinese risk points and no Europe
Under investigation is the following game from 2009/2010 season.
Udinese - Bari
Chievo - Udinese
More details have merged that players involved to fix this game
were Parisi, Belmonte, Bonucci, Andrea Masiello and Masiello.
Also, Pepe was offered a Ferrari but refused.
- Lecce risk -6 points to relegation
Under investigation are Covia, Benassi, Rosati, Ferrario, and the
Director of football and the following game from 2010/2011 season.
Bari - Lecce
- Siena risk points and to relegation
Under investigation are the following games from 2010/2011 season
and then assistant coach Stellini.
Siena - Atalanta
Ascoli - Siena
Ascoli - Siena
Siena - Piacenza
Siena - Torino
Siena - Varese
Siena - Sassuolo
Novara - Siena
Siena - Modena
- Siena player Carobbio (now on loan w/Spezia) has stated to the
Prosecutor office in Cremona that Antonio Conte knew about fix of
Novara 2-2 Siena game. (On April 21, 2012 AC denied he knew).
Per Carobbio, bettors Gegic and Ilievski had proposed a draw or
draw w/over and players from Siena and Novara agreed to a draw
after meeting in Hotel where Siena team was staying in May, 2011.
*Latest
- 1st Mister X (Money Emissary) has been identified by Bari
Prosecutor office as Carlo Quarta who delivered €230k @ Hotel
Tiziano in Lecce.
- 2nd Mr. X is likely overseas and non-Italian.
- Also, Masiello 2 friends have now decided to offer full
cooperation to Bari's Prosecutor office.
"Players phoned me and said: '20,000 (euros) on this result', I did
it because I trusted them," he said.
"That doesn't happen in England but it does in Italy. The players
make an agreement and then bet or sell their information. "Often
it's directors of the clubs themselves who come to an agreement."
- sports-yahoo
- Name of referee Roberto Bagalini has been mentioned by players.
- Stellini who was then assistant coach w/Siena is u/investigation.
- Slovenian Dino Lalic who was the point man for Bettors known as
Gypsies arrived back in Rome from Zagreb. He had been a fugitive
since Dec of 2011 when Prosecutor of Cremona had implicated him.
- Calcio Scommesse - YouTube
- TNAS (National Court of Arbitration for Sport) has rejected
Signori appeal and confirmed his 5 year ban.
- Antonio Conte (Ex Mgr of Siena) and Siena owner are likely to be
called to testify by FIGC, Federal Prosecutor Palazzi.
- It’s reported once Bari Ultras figured out that players were
fixing games they too got into the act. On May 10, 2012 Three Bari
Ultra leaders were arrested on suspicion of forcing Bari players
to lose the following games.
Bari 1-2 Chievo
Cesena 1-0 Bari
Bari 0-1 Sampdoria
- It's reported documents send to the Disciplinary Commission
contain Carobbio statement to the Prosecutor Office of Cremona that
states Antonio Conte had informed Siena players before the game
(Novara 2-2 Siena) that Siena had reached agreement with Novara
for a draw.
- Carobbio also states that Siena staff including Antonio Conte
arranged with Albinoleffe staff and players a loss for Siena
(AlbinoLeffe 1-0 Siena) so to help Albinoleffe avoid relegation.
- Platini spoke with sky.it and said the players involved in
fixing games in Italy shouldn't be allowed to play again.
- Ferrario (Lecce) testified to Prosecutor Office that 2 days
before Lazio 4-2 Lecce, Zamperini offered him and several players
from Lecce monies to fix the game. He gave his o.k. and so did
Mauri (Lazio).
- Passoni (Albinoleffe) during his deposition to 007 Federal
confirmed that he and his team mates meet Siena’s Carobbio, Coppola
& a staff member to fix (AlbinoLeffe 1-0 Siena). Poloni (Asst-Coach
AlbinoLeffe) confirmed he was aware Siena were to grant
Albinoleffe a win.
- Prosecutor Office in Bari has agreed to plea bargain of 1 year 10
months of imprisonment for Masiello and 1 year 5 months for
Carlla and Giacobbe.
- Per warrants/orders issued by the Prosecutor Office in Cremona;
Mauri, Milanetto and 17 others have been arrested.
- Criscito was questioned and his room searched at Coverciano.
- Antonio Conte, Sculli, Crespo, Kaladze, Pellissier and Criscito,
are suspects in match-fixing and are under investigation.
- The houses of Antonio Conte, executives and players
of Siena, Novara and AlbinoLeffe were searched.
- Bob Vieri is under investigation for Inter 1-0 Lecce game.
- Prosecutor Office in Bari is still working on the
investigation and reports say worst is yet to come for Serie A.
- 75 games in Serie A/B are under investigation by Prosecutor
offices in Bari, Cremona and Naples.
- # of Clubs u/investigations; Serie A = 11; Serie B = 17
- Serie A Clubs that risk point/s deduction are:
Atalanta, Bologna, Cesena, Chievo, Genoa, Lazio, Napoli, Novara
and Udinese.
-Clubs where Executives, Director/s, Coaches are involved face
relegation. Lecce and Siena risk point/s deduction to relegation.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in
Cremona arrived @ FIGC, Federal prosecutor Palazzi office in
Rome on May 8, 2012.
- The following was reported as breakdown of 1st referrals by FIGC:
22 clubs.
33 games; 29 from Serie B, 2 from Tim Cup, 2 from Leg Pro.
52 Active players and 2 former players.
4 Club Executives / Club employees.
3 Coaches/Technical Staff of which 2 are still active.
- Serie A Clubs effected in the 1st referrals are:
Atalanta, Novara and Siena.
- On May 9, 2012, the witnesses and charged were notified and FIGC
send the 1st referrals to the Disciplinary Commission.
- On May 31, 2012 Disciplinary Commission will begin hearings from
the 1st referrals forwarded by Federal prosecutor Palazzi office.
1st Trial is likely to begin in June, 2012 and finish before Euros.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in Naples
will arrive @ FIGC, Federal Prosecutor office in Rome in 24-72 hrs.
* Documents from investigation done by Prosecutor Office in Bari
will arrive @ FIGC, Federal Prosecutor office in Rome June 2012.
- The witnesses and charged will be notified and then FIGC will
send the 2nd Referrals to the Disciplinary Commission.
- 2nd Trial is likely to be in July & finish before August 2, 2012.
(3rd qualifying round of EL)
- Serie A clubs that could be part of 2nd referrals are:
Chievo, Genoa, Lazio, Lecce, Napoli, Udinese and possibly
Bologna and Cesena.
* FIGC and CONI will likely apply points deduction to 2011/2012.
- Likely bans for players and illegal bettors by FIGC will be:
a) 1 year ban from all football activities for anyone who was asked
to fix a game, refused but then failed to report it.
b) 2 years ban for anyone who placed a bet but didn't play in game.
c) 5 year ban to player who agreed to fix the game and played in it.
- Anyone who is charged but cooperatives with The Federal
Prosecutor Palazzi office will get reduced ban per 2007 law.
- FIGC has re-confirmed Code of Sports Justice of FIGC for Strict
liability will apply.
(Club will be held liable for their member/s and player/s actions)
- Atalanta risk another -7 points
Under investigation are the following games from 2010/2011 season.
Atalanta - Piacenza
Ascoli - Atalanta
Padova - Atalanta
* In August 2011 Atlanta were docked -6 points and Doni banned for
3.5 years from all football activities.
- Bologna risk -2 points
Under investigation is the following game from 2010/2011 season.
Bologna - Bari
Cesena risk -3 points
Under investigation is Marco Rossi and the following game from
2010/2011 season.
Cesena - Bari
Chievo risk -3 to -6 points
Under investigation are Pellissier, Luciano and the following games
from 2010/2011 season.
Brescia - Chievo
Bari - Chievo
Inter - Chievo
- Genoa risk -2 points
Under investigation are Milanetto, Dainelli and the following game
from 2010/2011 season.
Lazio - Genoa
- Lazio risk -7 points and no Europe.
Under investigation are Ledsema, Mauri and Brocchi and the
following games from 2010/2011 season.
Lazio - Genoa
Lecce - Lazio
- Napoli risk point/s and no Europe and Gianello, P. Cannavaro,
Grava and Cossato brothers risks bans.
Under investigation is the following game from 2010/2011.
Sampdoria 1-0 Napoli on May 16, 2010
Gianello, the former G.K. of Napoli has stated to the prosecutor
office he made attempt on behalf of the bettor/s for Napoli to
lose game vs. Samp on May 16, 2010. In the dressing room he asked
P. Cannavaro and Grava to fix the game, however both refused.
Also, Gianello has admitted to the prosecutor office that it is his
voice on the wiretaps with Ex-Chievo player Cossato.
* Mascara is under investigation for the Lecce - Napoli game.
- Novara risk points
Under investigation are the following games from 2010 Coppa Italia.
Chiero - Novara
Novara - Cyrene
- Udinese risk points and no Europe
Under investigation is the following game from 2009/2010 season.
Udinese - Bari
Chievo - Udinese
More details have merged that players involved to fix this game
were Parisi, Belmonte, Bonucci, Andrea Masiello and Masiello.
Also, Pepe was offered a Ferrari but refused.
- Lecce risk -6 points to relegation
Under investigation are Covia, Benassi, Rosati, Ferrario, and the
Director of football and the following game from 2010/2011 season.
Bari - Lecce
- Siena risk points and to relegation
Under investigation are the following games from 2010/2011 season
and then assistant coach Stellini.
Siena - Atalanta
Ascoli - Siena
Ascoli - Siena
Siena - Piacenza
Siena - Torino
Siena - Varese
Siena - Sassuolo
Novara - Siena
Siena - Modena
- Siena player Carobbio (now on loan w/Spezia) has stated to the
Prosecutor office in Cremona that Antonio Conte knew about fix of
Novara 2-2 Siena game. (On April 21, 2012 AC denied he knew).
Per Carobbio, bettors Gegic and Ilievski had proposed a draw or
draw w/over and players from Siena and Novara agreed to a draw
after meeting in Hotel where Siena team was staying in May, 2011.
*Latest
- 1st Mister X (Money Emissary) has been identified by Bari
Prosecutor office as Carlo Quarta who delivered €230k @ Hotel
Tiziano in Lecce.
- 2nd Mr. X is likely overseas and non-Italian.
- Also, Masiello 2 friends have now decided to offer full
cooperation to Bari's Prosecutor office.
"Players phoned me and said: '20,000 (euros) on this result', I did
it because I trusted them," he said.
"That doesn't happen in England but it does in Italy. The players
make an agreement and then bet or sell their information. "Often
it's directors of the clubs themselves who come to an agreement."
- sports-yahoo
- Name of referee Roberto Bagalini has been mentioned by players.
- Stellini who was then assistant coach w/Siena is u/investigation.
- Slovenian Dino Lalic who was the point man for Bettors known as
Gypsies arrived back in Rome from Zagreb. He had been a fugitive
since Dec of 2011 when Prosecutor of Cremona had implicated him.
- Calcio Scommesse - YouTube
- TNAS (National Court of Arbitration for Sport) has rejected
Signori appeal and confirmed his 5 year ban.
- Antonio Conte (Ex Mgr of Siena) and Siena owner are likely to be
called to testify by FIGC, Federal Prosecutor Palazzi.
- It’s reported once Bari Ultras figured out that players were
fixing games they too got into the act. On May 10, 2012 Three Bari
Ultra leaders were arrested on suspicion of forcing Bari players
to lose the following games.
Bari 1-2 Chievo
Cesena 1-0 Bari
Bari 0-1 Sampdoria
- It's reported documents send to the Disciplinary Commission
contain Carobbio statement to the Prosecutor Office of Cremona that
states Antonio Conte had informed Siena players before the game
(Novara 2-2 Siena) that Siena had reached agreement with Novara
for a draw.
- Carobbio also states that Siena staff including Antonio Conte
arranged with Albinoleffe staff and players a loss for Siena
(AlbinoLeffe 1-0 Siena) so to help Albinoleffe avoid relegation.
- Platini spoke with sky.it and said the players involved in
fixing games in Italy shouldn't be allowed to play again.
- Ferrario (Lecce) testified to Prosecutor Office that 2 days
before Lazio 4-2 Lecce, Zamperini offered him and several players
from Lecce monies to fix the game. He gave his o.k. and so did
Mauri (Lazio).
- Passoni (Albinoleffe) during his deposition to 007 Federal
confirmed that he and his team mates meet Siena’s Carobbio, Coppola
& a staff member to fix (AlbinoLeffe 1-0 Siena). Poloni (Asst-Coach
AlbinoLeffe) confirmed he was aware Siena were to grant
Albinoleffe a win.
- Prosecutor Office in Bari has agreed to plea bargain of 1 year 10
months of imprisonment for Masiello and 1 year 5 months for
Carlla and Giacobbe.
- Per warrants/orders issued by the Prosecutor Office in Cremona;
Mauri, Milanetto and 17 others have been arrested.
- Criscito was questioned and his room searched at Coverciano.
- Antonio Conte, Sculli, Crespo, Kaladze, Pellissier and Criscito,
are suspects in match-fixing and are under investigation.
- The houses of Antonio Conte, executives and players
of Siena, Novara and AlbinoLeffe were searched.
- Bob Vieri is under investigation for Inter 1-0 Lecce game.
- Prosecutor Office in Bari is still working on the
investigation and reports say worst is yet to come for Serie A.
Novel idea, suspend/stop betting?
But then the criminals would completely control the betting scene and this would still be happening, difference being it being 1000 times to detect without legal betting venues that you can scrutinize. Wouldnt notice something as funny as, in one weekend, Milano derby had 1.5m bet on it, while a Genoa game had 10m+ bet on it...
But then the criminals would completely control the betting scene and this would still be happening, difference being it being 1000 times to detect without legal betting venues that you can scrutinize. Wouldnt notice something as funny as, in one weekend, Milano derby had 1.5m bet on it, while a Genoa game had 10m+ bet on it...