say goodbye to ancelotti (25 Viewers)

[Fred]

hey Serge,welcome back,i wanted to PM you to beg you to come back,but i found all about this problem when it was too late,so i couldnt show you my suppport.
WELCOME BACK!!!!!

sorry for being late in asking you to come back.

 

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[sallyinzaghi]

wow serge. first thing you did when you came back is write a superlong post. you really DO miss us don't you

 

[Majed]

Welcome Back Serge

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++

Why am I back? Because I miss this place, and I realize that if I had to do things differently, I would have complained to a mod, although that is not my style. And, I miss my friends here. Terribly. And I wanted to come back, because they missed me here, and they showed great support, especially Z, Ian,Ice, Sunshine, Meow, Sally, Roverbhoy, Mikhail, Hydde, Gray, Vit, Anders, Martin, and lastly, my friend Incubo. Your support, along with everyone else here in this forum who showed support, is something that i won't forget for a long time.

Welcome back Serge my man

Hope you stay for a long time, so I can make some more of my world famous grandpa jokes

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++

I would like to put this incident behind me, and I hope the rest of you would, too. I just didn't want this to fester any longer. I look forward to having insightful, humorous, often times stupid discussions with all of you again.

Now why did you have to put me down like that? :frown:



















:extatic:

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++


Self-mockery is the most admirable form of humor, for you are making fun of yourself to make others laugh. In my case, it's also the easiest.

If thats how you feel than I'll do my best to mock you too


J/K mate, I mock because I care

++ [ originally posted by Sunshine ] ++
Ha ha!!!! Yes!!!!! Chrismas is Merry indeed!!!! yay!!!!:excited: :excited: :extatic: :extatic: arty: arty: < jumping around like a mad woman >


Thank you Sergio for coming back! It's great to see you here :extatic:

Ok SUnny... Breathe...

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Advice: We should clone Sergio and then Incubo would be a much more mellow and easy going Milanista...if all juventini were like Sergio I might even start adding Black and White into my wardrobe ...OK NO! But still..welcome back Sergio...your one of the most respected posters here and all the discussions about your departure justifies this. You should become a mediator/arbitrator..you actually made Iceblu and me agree on a point

Welcome back...and cheer for us tomorrow...we WANT your support!

Dont you worry mate, we'll get you on the right path soon enough

 

[Torkel]

That's great Sergio, I'm glad you're back.

 

[Martin]

Serge, I'm very glad that you came out with this and frankly I didn't get all that when you explained it to me the other time. But there is a tendency, and has been for a long time, to slag off the US and post all kinds of crap on the subject. Someone had to feel offended at some point. I very much hope that everyone reading this thread paid careful attention to that part of your post and not solely acknowledging your decision not to leave.

I'm also pleased that Paul put a little perspective on things.

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
Self-mockery is the most admirable form of humor, for you are making fun of yourself to make others laugh. In my case, it's also the easiest.

Very true

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Advice: We should clone Sergio and then Incubo would be a much more mellow and easy going Milanista...if all juventini were like Sergio I might even start adding Black and White into my wardrobe ...OK NO! But still..welcome back Sergio...your one of the most respected posters here and all the discussions about your departure justifies this. You should become a mediator/arbitrator..you actually made Iceblu and me agree on a point

Welcome back...and cheer for us tomorrow...we WANT your support!

Black and white looks good on Italians, Friend.

Of course I'll root for Milan, I always root for Italian teams as long as it's not during Serie A or they are playing against the Bianconeri.

I'm wondering if anyone knows if the match will be televised in the States.

I have the Dave matthews Band concert tonight, So I have to tape it.



PS- reagarding your Sig line, you have more class than that, pal. Do the right thing. Please.

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++

I'm wondering if anyone knows if the match will be televised in the States.

Why dont you do me the honors off kick-starting the thread i just made about the game....(which also has the info you want)

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=289317#post289317

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Alex ] ++
Serge, I'm very glad that you came out with this and frankly I didn't get all that when you explained it to me the other time. But there is a tendency, and has been for a long time, to slag off the US and post all kinds of crap on the subject. Someone had to feel offended at some point. I very much hope that everyone reading this thread paid careful attention to that part of your post and not solely acknowledging your decision not to leave.

I'm also pleased that Paul put a little perspective on things.

I know I said this to you in private, Martin, but I want to make sure everyone else knows as well.

You are class.

Thank you for understanding.

And despite what Incubo had suggested, there's no way I could be a moderator. My wife already gets annoyed with me being on that "stupid, fukkin chat-room", to which I reply, "baby, it's a message board, not a chat room". That always goes over very well. She doesn't mind too much.

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
I know I said this to you in private, Martin, but I want to make sure everyone else knows as well.

But at the time I didn't understand that's what you meant.

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Alex ] ++


But at the time I didn't understand that's what you meant.

No, dummy. The "you are class" part.

My eyes just rolled so far back, I could see my headache coming on

 

[Martin]

That's the way I am, get used to it.

 

[Slagathor]

++ [ originally posted by USA Juventini ] ++
My problem is, I've seen a couple of other times while I've posted here, and I've thought, "God, no other country gets picked on like mine, what's going on?"

You're joking right? I constantly pick on Germany, I got a couple of people constantly dissing my country (Holland) and France is the eternal subject of cynical jokes.

You're not the only one

 

[KB824]

++ [ originally posted by Matto ] ++


You're joking right? I constantly pick on Germany, I got a couple of people constantly dissing my country (Holland) and France is the eternal subject of cynical jokes.

You're not the only one

Erik, making a joke is one thing, but going way below the belt and being cruel and offensive is another, and that's what happened. Som epeople react differently, that's all.

Regardless, it's behind me now.

Hey, I heard that the US might play holland in a friendly, is that true?


I know it's off-topic, but I'm good at it

 

[Slagathor]

Yeah that's true, 18 of February is the current date but it might change with a couple of days. Am looking forward to it already! Especially cause we have a number of American players playing in the Eredivisie!

And yeah - I suppose the 'criticism' towards your nation has the tendency of being more fierce than that aimed at my nation.

 

[Stu]

Although I never realised your departure, welcome back Sergey boi

 

[aressandro10]

Me personally is not a big fan of United States government... also the Israeli government...i really not..


but thats my personal view and i kept it too myself.. but i really dont have any hatery whatsoever with any other US citizen.. in fac i like most of them and Serge is one of em..

u might not notice me much but i really a fan of your post and one of my people who is glad that you are back...thank u for coming back my man ;

 

[Henry]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
No longer being a contributor to this forum its probably not my place.... but a couple of my thoughts on this forum and recent events...

A few years ago this forum was to me pretty good.

It was well balanced... There was a good mixture of quality posters, fun and conflict.
All of which are essential
You could have great debates lasting many pages that as well as to some extent an exciting battle, they were very fulfilling and fun.... these posts also meant people actually learnt something about the team and football in general...

Of course there was conflict, but so what, generally it adds to the place.
Sometimes it would go to far but that was usually sorted by mods pretty sharpish

But most importantly there was a certain degree of respect shown between posters.... Thats how i saw it anyway.

Then many posters left... The debates slowly stopped and were replaced with numerous single sentence answeres which offered no real substance and pointless threads that said nothing... there was e3ven a thread saying goodnight..ffs

To me ... there has been many times when a passing reader, wouldnt even recognise the place as a juve forum.

But the worst thing to me about this place is simply respect.... there is none.
I read several forums quite regurlarly and this one by far has the least respect for other teams and there fans.

There are constantly threads saying milan, roma etc are shit and coming out with all kinds of bullshit about the teams and players.
The amount of threads saying inter fans are this or that..

And when rival fans come here the majority are insulted first... then when they react, they get attacked from all angles and people run around saying they should be banned... its disgraceful imo

Why cant people stand up and argue there point... answer the critics.. put them in there place....

When they come and say we buy refs.. we do drugs etc etc... come back with an argument, stand up for your club.. show some pride.... do none of you have any respect for the club you all purport to be massive fans of.

At times i really get the impression there are a handful of good posters and an awful lot of people that know absolutely nothing about 'their team' ... jus glory hunters jumping on the bandwagon.

Correct me if im wrong but there was recently a 'juve fan' asking what position we were in the league and other such mindless crap, such as sugesting a poor start to the season... one that was actually our best in nigh on 20 years... 'juve fan'... my arse

I also see many people jumping on critics with cheap insults that can only be explained cause they are incapable of actually making their point and so kill it with insults or cheap shots.

Dont get me wrong .. there are some great posters and some great people but the general attitude at times is sickening...

If your insulted... I apologise, but thats the way i see this place at the moment.. which is a shame as it was once one of the better 'juve' forums around.

And though i disagree with many of their ways, martin and the long standing mods have given an awful lot to this forum and to me many people on a daily basis spit it back in their faces.


Ancelotti :

Undoubtedly a pleb.. but generally harmless... If anyone had jumped in when he first turned up and baffled him with facts and reason he probably would have calmed or left.
But the repeated answering to his baiting made it worse and jus fueled his entertainment... I would say where some of you are upset at his comments and that someone you like has left... he is laughing his arse off... he may be banned,but he won.

The thread that lead to serge leaving allthough out of line and should have been shut down straight away (but mods cant be everywhere) was not that bigger deal... again no-one stood up and defended, it jus turned into a juvenile slanging match...

Allthough i quite like serge and many of his posts i think he over reacted somewhat and ancelotti should not have been banned... He added some zest and the moment some one had stopped reacting and debated him he would have scurried off anyway.


Incubo ::

Presently probably, on a football sense the best poster on the board at this time... but again no one stands up for our club and debates him.

My only conclusion to the unwillingness to debate is that you cant do it, you are threatened cause you dont think you can win.

Many people can learn alot about football from this guy
But most of his arguments could be debated.. he comes up with some good information but most of it can be countered and though not always beaten you could easily come out even...

Why no one tries is beyond, why you return to insults??
Prove him wrong.. show some juventus spirit



Anyway jus my opinion... I apologis to anyone that feels agreived by my post.
Sorry for the badly written post on a somewhat sensitive subject, but ive had a hard day

good point I know I'm guilty of some of what you said......but in my argument in the thread where ancelotti insulted my country was not juvenile at all. while I didn't come up with lots of facts, I did have valid points to make-he insisted on acting immature-he didn't say more than one intelligent thing. if you look at the thread, you will see that I did argue, not just sling insults at him.

 

[Henry]

and welcome back Serge!!! looking forward to some good posts from you!