Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (95 Viewers)

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
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Dont play cute, you know very well what mass media is.

In fact they are exactly the same: they both need to lie, deceive and control people. Thats how they sell stories and profit and serve their lobbying masters.

Point given tho, in Russia the Media is more controlled and authoritarian, but the means are the same. They use the same tools.

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1: They are basically ingrained with lobbying: they serve the financial powers that dominates society. This is basic stuff, not rocket science.

2: Not jail, but loss of job, freezing out from society etc: your gonna get shit on very hard for bringin out these opinions in public.

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I cant see Le Pen winning, the country would be in chaos
From this post I can infer that you belive stupid people should have the right to stupid opinions and not be called out for them on the guise of "free speech".
Well life doesn't work like that. You play stupid games, you usually win stupid prizes.
Also you are starting to sound like a conspiracy theorists and we all know how "smart", those kind of people tend to be.
 

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GiocataGrande

Commendatore
May 26, 2016
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From this post I can infer that you belive stupid people should have the right to stupid opinions and not be called out for them on the guise of "free speech".
Well life doesn't work like that. You play stupid games, you usually win stupid prizes.
Also you are starting to sound like a conspiracy theorists and we all know how "smart", those kind of people tend to be.
1: Then you are misinterpreting my argument: My issue is not with people getting called out for saying stupid shit: that is well deserved and only natural.

A racist political party in my country for example try to use the argument of "free speech" when they rally with racist banners, bully people, burn the Quran and preach pure hateful ideology. In that case i would agree, they should not be excused.

My issue and what i was refering to was people getting banned from society, losing their job or being shushed into oblivion for thinking in a a different way/challenging the mainstream view or by simply being contrarian in a civil matter regarding political subjects. I would argue there is quite a clear difference.

2: Feel free to label me as a conspiracy theorist, altough i feel thats pretty over the top given the discussion: I didnt bring a lot of conspiracies to the table, i simply argued my stance about Western free speech and my issues regarding it. The points were critiqued fairly , discussed in a civilized manner, challenged, and to some extent agreed upon. I see nothing crazy about that, on the contrary, its healthy as it gives a nuanced debate rather than the usual shit throwing and one might actually learn something or adjust.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
Nice, but this part :howler: Stingers better than s-300


They’re dated by modern standards, relying mostly on ex-Soviet air-defense systems such as the S-300 long-range surface-to-air missile. More advanced surface-to-air missiles, such as the short-range Stinger missile provided by the U.S. government, are more lethal to Russian jets, but require enemy fighters to fly at altitudes of 10,000 feet or less.
 

Alex-444

Senior Member
Sep 5, 2005
30,261
@Juventino[RUS]
ты еще сам не запутался во всей этой хуйне ...постишь как путо робот поеботу ..иди воюй хули
За хохлов гоу
За Россию гоу

а нет ты диваннный вояка ок
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
@Juventino[RUS]
ты еще сам не запутался во всей этой хуйне ...постишь как путо робот поеботу ..иди воюй хули
За хохлов гоу
За Россию гоу

а нет ты диваннный вояка ок
You are sick in your head, Putin is a piece of shit, Russia is an agressor that should be punished by the whole world for crimes against humanity. I'm not confused, I call black color black and white color white.
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
20,192
@Juventino[RUS]
ты еще сам не запутался во всей этой хуйне ...постишь как путо робот поеботу ..иди воюй хули
За хохлов гоу
За Россию гоу

а нет ты диваннный вояка ок
I hope you get sent to fight in Ukraine and taste their medicine.

Sick russian fucker.
 

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