Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (75 Viewers)

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L'autista
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Kopanja

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Lol, and who does all that to beautiful Russian people? Who falsifies elections? Who beats up people? Who bombs Ukrainian cities and kills civilians? Some unknown aliens or maybe russians?

Everyone understands that going against the system in modern russia is very dangerous, but "the system", the majority is also russians. And what the guy like Dolin simply glosses over is that he is a freak, with his democracy, peace, etc. for the majority of russians he is a freak. So maybe the "free world" is correct in assessments?
 
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Lol, and who does all that to beautiful Russian people? Who falsifies elections? Who beats up people? Who bombs Ukrainian cities and kills civilians? Some unknown aliens or maybe russians?

Everyone understands that going against the system in modern russia is very dangerous, but "the system", the majority is also russians. And what the guy like Dolin simply glosses over is that he is a freak, with his democracy, peace, etc. for the majority of russians he is a freak. So maybe the "free world" is correct in assessments?
You underestimate the power of propaganda, Russians are dumb and stupid and who is the easiest to manage? the flock of sheep

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the Reddit post got removed, what did it say?
Russia have to pay 2 billions on 2nd of April, the default is coming
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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You underestimate the power of propaganda, Russians are dumb and stupid and who is the easiest to manage? the flock of sheep
I don't think that avg russian is dumber than avg european, what, according to this thread, makes avg russian much smarter than avg tuzer.

Propaganda often capitalizes on a ressentiment prevalent in society. I think it's possible to create one from the thing air, suppose. But that's not the case for russians, I think you agree.
Idk, maybe you don't see it, because you are inside. But for an outsider, even my russian so-called friends (now ex-friends, fuck em, hope they will go through everything we are going through atm and more) in a previous life always had a metropolitan mindset, an empire is the be all end all.
On top of that, I do believe that it's ingrained in russian culture and russian mentality too deep, and it won't go away just like that. Even if this Putin dies, wihout major catharsis nothing changes. Maybe again, a decade of relative freedom, and another Putin will appear.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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I don't think that avg russian is dumber than avg european, what, according to this thread, makes avg russian much smarter than avg tuzer.

Propaganda often capitalizes on a ressentiment prevalent in society. I think it's possible to create one from the thing air, suppose. But that's not the case for russians, I think you agree.
Idk, maybe you don't see it, because you are inside. But for an outsider, even my russian so-called friends (now ex-friends, fuck em, hope they will go through everything we are going through atm and more) in a previous life always had a metropolitan mindset, an empire is the be all end all.
On top of that, I do believe that it's ingrained in russian culture and russian mentality too deep, and it won't go away just like that. Even if this Putin dies, wihout major catharsis nothing changes. Maybe again, a decade of relative freedom, and another Putin will appear.
This. People think every culture regards democracy and peace as the pinnacle of human society. They don't

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it's a 3rd @Cerval :grin:

But I agree, if they would consider it as evolving at all
 
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[QUOTE="Kopanja, post: 6503226, member: 20068"]I don't think that avg russian is dumber than avg european, what, according to this thread, makes avg russian much smarter than avg tuzer.

Propaganda often capitalizes on a ressentiment prevalent in society. I think it's possible to create one from the thing air, suppose. But that's not the case for russians, I think you agree.
Idk, maybe you don't see it, because you are inside. But for an outsider, even my russian so-called friends (now ex-friends, fuck em, hope they will go through everything we are going through atm and more) in a previous life always had a metropolitan mindset, an empire is the be all end all.
On top of that, I do believe that it's ingrained in russian culture and russian mentality too deep, and it won't go away just like that. Even if this Putin dies, wihout major catharsis nothing changes. Maybe again, a decade of relative freedom, and another Putin will appear.[/QUOTE]

1) Average Ivan is 100% dumber than average John, Frank, Michelle, Heinrich or Ciro just because russian school education is still living in 80s. Also you won't find even 1 russian university in the top200 of the world's best universities and it says a lot.
2) No, russian propaganda is built on hatred - we have a great country, we have a great culture, we won the WW II, the whole world should be thankful to Russia, there are only enemies around, everyone envy us, everyone is afraid of us, no one perceived Yeltsin's Russia but everyone fears and respects Putin's Russia, we have the best weapons, the best missiles, our president alone fights the three main villains of the world - the US, the EU and NATO.
3) In russian schools they don't teach us about holodomor, Katyn massacre, they don't teach us about what mistakes Nikolay II did, they don't teach us about the red disease that didn't allow the countries of the soc. bloc to live and develop after World War II, That's why so many people are still believe that USSR was a paradise land destroyed by evil americans and europeans. Hell, nowadays i can't publicly say that World War II began with the division of Poland by Hitler and Stalin, for such words I can be convicted under the article on the rehabilitation of Nazism :rofl: In Putin's Russia, the war began in the summer of 41, and not in September 1939 :lol: Orwell would have been proud :touched:

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Damn, Sleepy Joe is destroying putin again and again :tuttosport:
 
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I know it's off topic but can't be bothered to find the funny videos thread

@Dostoevsky north Korean level of absurdity

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How on earth fox news is never being sued? Jesus Christ , they take Biden's words, interpret them in their own way, and then at a press conference ask him to explain himself?! then why are you presenting your speculation as the truth on your shitty channel?!
 
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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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[QUOTE="Kopanja, post: 6503226, member: 20068"]I don't think that avg russian is dumber than avg european, what, according to this thread, makes avg russian much smarter than avg tuzer.

Propaganda often capitalizes on a ressentiment prevalent in society. I think it's possible to create one from the thing air, suppose. But that's not the case for russians, I think you agree.
Idk, maybe you don't see it, because you are inside. But for an outsider, even my russian so-called friends (now ex-friends, fuck em, hope they will go through everything we are going through atm and more) in a previous life always had a metropolitan mindset, an empire is the be all end all.
On top of that, I do believe that it's ingrained in russian culture and russian mentality too deep, and it won't go away just like that. Even if this Putin dies, wihout major catharsis nothing changes. Maybe again, a decade of relative freedom, and another Putin will appear.

Sleepy Joe standing his ground. You love to see it.

 

ALC

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I know it's off topic but can't be bothered to find the funny videos thread

Give him a break, they finally got trains in Serbia

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@Dostoevsky north Korean level of absurdity

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How on earth fox news is never being sued? Jesus Christ , they take Biden's words, interpret them in their own way, and then at a press conference ask him to explain himself?! then why are you presenting your speculation as the truth on your shitty channel?!
biden shouldn’t even respond to that bullshit, as much flack as he gets for being clueless, he’s been doing very well and presenting himself in a great light.

let’s go Biden! Make America great!
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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[QUOTE="Kopanja, post: 6503226, member: 20068"]I don't think that avg russian is dumber than avg european, what, according to this thread, makes avg russian much smarter than avg tuzer.

Propaganda often capitalizes on a ressentiment prevalent in society. I think it's possible to create one from the thing air, suppose. But that's not the case for russians, I think you agree.
Idk, maybe you don't see it, because you are inside. But for an outsider, even my russian so-called friends (now ex-friends, fuck em, hope they will go through everything we are going through atm and more) in a previous life always had a metropolitan mindset, an empire is the be all end all.
On top of that, I do believe that it's ingrained in russian culture and russian mentality too deep, and it won't go away just like that. Even if this Putin dies, wihout major catharsis nothing changes. Maybe again, a decade of relative freedom, and another Putin will appear.
1) Average Ivan is 100% dumber than average John, Frank, Michelle, Heinrich or Ciro just because russian school education is still living in 80s. Also you won't find even 1 russian university in the top200 of the world's best universities and it says a lot.
2) No, russian propaganda is built on hatred - we have a great country, we have a great culture, we won the WW II, the whole world should be thankful to Russia, there are only enemies around, everyone envy us, everyone is afraid of us, no one perceived Yeltsin's Russia but everyone fears and respects Putin's Russia, we have the best weapons, the best missiles, our president alone fights the three main villains of the world - the US, the EU and NATO.
3) In russian schools they don't teach us about holodomor, Katyn massacre, they don't teach us about what mistakes Nikolay II did, they don't teach us about the red disease that didn't allow the countries of the soc. bloc to live and develop after World War II, That's why so many people are still believe that USSR was a paradise land destroyed by evil americans and europeans. Hell, nowadays i can't publicly say that World War II began with the division of Poland by Hitler and Stalin, for such words I can be convicted under the article on the rehabilitation of Nazism :rofl: In Putin's Russia, the war began in the summer of 41, and not in September 1939 Orwell would have been proud :touched:

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Damn, Sleepy Joe is destroying putin again and again :tuttosport:
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Some one from an internal forum also said that when he was in Germany for a perfectionist course in inginery he was in a class with a bunch a different people from all over Europe.
Among one of them was a Russian. So they starting discussions about a bunch a different topics and in the end the Russian guy says that all their countries are Fascist (Germany, Romania, Netherlands etc.). They tried to make him see the light but to no avail and this guy was someone with a college degree, not some peasant from the countryside.
The relationship between them didn't go to well, during the course, because they all started, at some point, to make fun of his political concepts.
 
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1) Average Ivan is 100% dumber than average John, Frank, Michelle, Heinrich or Ciro just because russian school education is still living in 80s. Also you won't find even 1 russian university in the top200 of the world's best universities and it says a lot.
2) No, russian propaganda is built on hatred - we have a great country, we have a great culture, we won the WW II, the whole world should be thankful to Russia, there are only enemies around, everyone envy us, everyone is afraid of us, no one perceived Yeltsin's Russia but everyone fears and respects Putin's Russia, we have the best weapons, the best missiles, our president alone fights the three main villains of the world - the US, the EU and NATO.
3) In russian schools they don't teach us about holodomor, Katyn massacre, they don't teach us about what mistakes Nikolay II did, they don't teach us about the red disease that didn't allow the countries of the soc. bloc to live and develop after World War II, That's why so many people are still believe that USSR was a paradise land destroyed by evil americans and europeans. Hell, nowadays i can't publicly say that World War II began with the division of Poland by Hitler and Stalin, for such words I can be convicted under the article on the rehabilitation of Nazism :rofl: In Putin's Russia, the war began in the summer of 41, and not in September 1939 Orwell would have been proud :touched:

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Damn, Sleepy Joe is destroying putin again and again :tuttosport:
Some one from an internal forum also said that when he was in Germany for a perfectionist course in inginery he was in a class with a bunch a different people from all over Europe.
Among one of them was a Russian. So they starting discussions about a bunch a different topics and in the end the Russian guy says that all their countries are Fascist (Germany, Romania, Netherlands etc.). They tried to make him see the light but to no avail and this guy was someone with a college degree, not some peasant from the countryside.
The relationship between them didn't go to well, during the course, because they all started, at some point, to make fun of his political concepts.
Yep, these degenerates think that the Soviet Union saved the whole world and that there was no red communist plague from 1945 to 1993. They don't even know about the famine in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, resettlement of Chechens, Ingush, residents of the Baltic countries, repressions, executions and many justify Stalin and the NKVD, they say there was such a time, it had to be done :sergio:
 

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