Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (102 Viewers)

[kappa96]

If he makes that concession then, not sure whether Putin would stop at that. What do you make of him even considering the idea @Kopanja

It's about "Neutrality", but guaranteed national territory protection by third party(countries), which probably means NATO.
It's like "we ramain neutral,no NATO membership, no NATO bases, de militarization and whatnot, but if you attack us again, you recognize our right to seek NATO help and their(NATO) right for intervention in defending us".

 

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[Elvin]

"sz" is one letter in our abc, that's our "s" sound
the letter s alone is pronounced "sh" in hungarian

Damn sounds/looks a bit complicated

Our "s" is "s" and "sh" is "ş".

 

[Strickland]

donbas and crimea are still big problems that need to be solved though, even if Russia and Ukraine can agree on the neutrality

 

[Elvin]

donbas and crimea are still big problems that need to be solved though, even if Russia and Ukraine can agree on the neutrality

They will come back to Ukraine when Russia collapses. And it will collapse.

 

[Kopanja]

Oh wow, what a surprise, who would've thought. We urgently need Serbs to explain it somehow, or people would think that Russia is in the wrong here.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Serbs media
Fucking Orwellian

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They will come back to Ukraine when Russia collapses. And it will collapse.

Crimea won't go back to Ukraine for sure, Russia will have to pay for it somehow

 

[kappa96]

Serbs media
Fucking Orwellian

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Crimea won't go back to Ukraine for sure, Russia will have to pay for it somehow

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[Juventino[RUS]]

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Good job Twitter
He have said this:
During his briefing Serbian media, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov noted that regarding other members of the world community, the community of democracy that includes European Union, NATO and the United States, are in fact an autocracy. L

 

[s4tch]

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interesting that i can see the embedded tweet but got the same message when i click on the tweet.

btw i'm against censorship and i'd love to read the russian propaganda for fun. also, censorship plays on the hand of the russians as they can say that western leftist media wants to keep the truth away from their citizens. you need to fight propaganda with proper education, not with censorship. no wonder that every single movement based on misinformation, be it quanon, flat earthers, populists in any country or russian propaganda is popular among the less educated people.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Mariupol is 100% gone

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interesting that i can see the embedded tweet but got the same message when i click on the tweet.

btw i'm against censorship and i'd love to read the russian propaganda for fun. also, censorship plays on the hand of the russians as they can say that western leftist media wants to keep the truth away from their citizens. you need to fight propaganda with proper education, not with censorship. no wonder that every single movement based on misinformation, be it quanon, flat earthers, populists in any country or russian propaganda is popular among the less educated people.

Stop. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to lie.

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Stop. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to lie.

Yes, it does

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Yes, it does

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You wouldn't know

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You wouldn't know

the constitution guarantees freedom of speech, it doesn't guarantee freedom to lie, and if you are publicly lying then your lie is regulated by the administrative and criminal codes - slander, deception, misrepresentation, insults based on skin color, sexual orientation and so on might get your ass charged. Twitter, like any other social network, has every right to deprive you of the ability to speak if you lie endlessly, if you endlessly incite hatred towards one or another person, race, country and so on. If you don't agree with their policy, you can either go to court and prove their wrongs or simply deactivate your account and don't use that social network.

 

[ALC]

It really doesn’t mean freedom to lie. At least in the states. That’s why we have libel, slander, etc

you can lie to your friends or wherever with no issues but you can’t lie on official forms, official communication, to police etc.

Unless you count as entertainment which is the loophole some news networks take

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yes, it does

It's rus way of arguing poppers paradox of tolerance.

But you are right, you are free to say what you want.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

It really doesn’t mean freedom to lie. At least in the states. That’s why we have libel, slander, etc

you can lie to your friends or wherever with no issues but you can lie on official forms, official communication, to police etc.

Unless you count as entertainment which is the loophole some news networks take

That's why fox news is still working?

 

[Tomice]

the constitution guarantees freedom of speech, it doesn't guarantee freedom to lie, and if you are publicly lying then your lie is regulated by the administrative and criminal codes - slander, deception, misrepresentation, insults based on skin color, sexual orientation and so on might get your ass charged. Twitter, like any other social network, has every right to deprive you of the ability to speak if you lie endlessly, if you endlessly incite hatred towards one or another person, race, country and so on. If you don't agree with their policy, you can either go to court and prove their wrongs or simply deactivate your account and don't use that social network.

You're missing the point, it is about censorship of opposing views not about fact checking lies on undeniable facts

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You're missing the point, it is about censorship of opposing views not about fact checking lies on undeniable facts

Censorship is what Putin is doing here, do you know that legally Twitter is not available in Russia and we have to use VPN? Same story with RT in Europe - it license was revoked and they are not available in Europe anymore so Twitter have to follow European regulators

 

[swag]

"Because Ukraine and Russia are meant to be together forever. And anyone who gets in the way of their special relationship will face their violent demise. If we can't have them, no one will."

So when's the murder-suicide?