Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (72 Viewers)

Lancelot

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That`s a great way to fight against russia`s aggression. Cut off the Coca Cola and pornhub and magically people will stop dying :lol:

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It seems like Europe doesn`t want to impose more sanctions on Russia
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Europe cannot secure its energy supplies without imports from Russia.
Energy was deliberately left out of previous rounds of sanctions, Scholz said in a news release Monday, adding Russia energy is of “essential importance” to the general, daily lives of its citizens.
Meanwhile, Hungary’s finance minister Mihaly Varga said his government would not support any sanctions on Russian energy.

In a Facebook video posted Monday, he spoke of the substantial damage existing sanctions on Russia have had on its economy.

"Those who ask for the expansion of the sanctions, want the Hungarian people to pay the price of the war."
Oh, even Bulgarian prime minister is not willing to go any further :lol:
“Bulgaria would support all kinds of measures, because we are really against the war, but these two (oil and gas), maybe we would ask for an exception… We do not have current alternatives right now, we are too dependent,” Petkov said.
 

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Lancelot

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https://tass.ru/politika/13993313


"Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states."

these are probably closer to the true intentions of kreml. not a single word on denazification. @Lancelot rekt
Did you really expect to put the denazification as one of his demands to the people that actually supported the Nazification?

Demilitarization is one of the demands, as it clearly says "change its constitution to enshrine neutrality" - pretty much to have the same neutrality as Switzerland

The other demands are totally relevant as well. Nothing wrong with it
 

GordoDeCentral

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How's that? they only thing he possibly backed off from is installing a new government. Not saying they should agree but do you think they are winning?
It all depends on what neutrality means though. Crimea is already russian, nato will not add ukraine if it were it would have done it long ago. So it's really about the repubs and i say better keep on fighting now with the world momentum with you. Otherwise, they will just keep on encroaching until they take the whole thing like the did after ww1.
 
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Bjerknes

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    sometimes I put some beef back because there’s a packet that’s 4 cents cheaper
    I've been eating a lot of kale salads recently. Watch someone invade a country with a shit ton of organic kale in order to De-Nazi it.
     

    Post Ironic

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    I've been eating a lot of kale salads recently. Watch someone invade a country with a shit ton of organic kale in order to De-Nazi it.
    Did you see this?


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    :lol:

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    @Bjerknes
    Read the whole thread there. Russia may ultimately succeed in Ukraine because of sheer numbers, but so much bumbling ineptitude going on
     
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    Bjerknes

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    Did you see this?


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    :lol:
    I did see it, but not sure what to make of it, other than it's simply stunning to watch how poorly this invasion is going. It's almost like a suicide mission.

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    I don't know, I don't think Putin is going to take the obvious L and just say let's take what we got and call it a day.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    @Bjerknes
    Read the whole thread there. Russia may ultimately succeed in Ukraine because of sheer numbers, but so much bumbling ineptitude going on
    It really looks like an invasion led by low-IQ morons.

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    If they wouldn't have nuclear weapons, the west should just walk over there and denazify the country.
    I wonder how many of those nukes would just explode as soon as they press the red button.

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    I agree

     
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    duranfj

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    If they wouldn't have nuclear weapons, the west should just walk over there and denazify the country.
    IV Reich would finally do it. China would march the other way and the wall is going to be in Moscow now

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    could you imagine if Estonian troops walked into Moscow?
    Poland would be my choise with Lewa as new president of the empire
     

    X Æ A-12

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    https://tass.ru/politika/13993313


    "Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that Ukraine cease military action, change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states."

    these are probably closer to the true intentions of kreml. not a single word on denazification. @Lancelot rekt
    Will it really end with that though? Even if Ukraine does agree to those terms, for now, why would they trust Russia going forward? May not be a full scale invasion but surely Russia will keep fucking with them, trying to spread influence and corruption into their government Especially if they can't join NATO
     

    Tomice

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    It all depends on what neutrality means though. Crimea is already russian, nato will not add ukraine if it were it would have done it long ago. So it's really about the repubs and i say better keep on fighting now with the world momentum with you. Otherwise, they will just keep on encroaching until they take the whole thing like the did after ww1.
    I agree that's why I don't think naturality is such a big concession to make, demilitarization never. They can still join EU, get access to funds, invest in the military and make it even less profitable to invade them next time.
    I want to think the Russian threat with how the Ukrainians are preforming will not hang over them for a good couple of decades at least, maybe it's wishful thinking.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    I agree that's why I don't think naturality is such a big concession to make, demilitarization never. They can still join EU, get access to funds, invest in the military and make it even less profitable to invade them next time.
    I want to think the Russian threat with how the Ukrainians are preforming will not hang over them for a good couple of decades at least, maybe it's wishful thinking.
    Yep it will depend on that neutrality means, and i don't believe Russians will ever let off unless their spirit is really broken.
     

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