Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (79 Viewers)

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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Exactly. The same thing happened in Venezuela and Maduro is still there.

I just wouldn't automatically assume that Russians will be able to overthrow Putin.
So what do you suggest bro? Like I said above, it's the only option. Even if Putin endures, at least his enablers (Russians) will suffer.
 
Jul 7, 2018
503
Based on everything you’ve said so far, do you really think these companies would’ve been better off trying to show themselves as anti-war in Russia instead of pulling out? You seem to contradict yourself.
What is the contradiction? It is not the first time you say I contradict. You are not understanding my point. People underestimate companies power by saying that they should just leave when they have the power to influence the Russian society much more than what they can be influenced by the statements made by the UN from Switzerland. What I am saying is that they should stay in Russia and be tools of Western propaganda in Russia. Or do you think that leaving Russia isolated with Russian companies will overthrown a government? If you think so, then you are underestimating the power of a state.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
What is the contradiction? It is not the first time you say I contradict. You are not understanding my point. People underestimate companies power by saying that they should just leave when they have the power to influence the Russian society much more than what they can be influenced by the statements made by the UN from Switzerland. What I am saying is that they should stay in Russia and be tools of Western propaganda in Russia. Or do you think that leaving Russia isolated with Russian companies will overthrown a government? If you think so, then you are underestimating the power of a state.
Nope. It's too late for that.
 
Jul 7, 2018
503
Nope. It's too late for that.
Yeah, I know. The West has done everything too late in this situation. Ukraine should had been aided way before the invasion happened, Russia should had received sanctions long before this, specially when they jailed Navalny, and now we are creating a west-east separation that has no point rather than to unite Russia-China-India as opposition to the US-Europe. So, yeah, is to late for many things to happen.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Yeah, I know. The West has done everything too late in this situation. Ukraine should had been aided way before the invasion happened, Russia should had received sanctions long before this, specially when they jailed Navalny, and now we are creating a west-east separation that has no point rather than to unite Russia-China-India as opposition to the US-Europe. So, yeah, is to late for many things to happen.
You know it's actually a good thing IMO. The eastern shitholes shall enjoy their misery.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,545
The original football hipster thinks himself a deep, analytical thinker and makes some grandiose statement when in actually he has said nothing at all. What a surprise. Might as well have thrown in "the media" for some extra points.
yeah I have no idea what he’s said, either
 

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