Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (70 Viewers)

[j0ker]

I am really glad they are showing their true colors once again, lately it seemed that the world forgot about the genocides they did in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Apart from that they have been sitting in two chairs for way too long and even now they do the same (condemn but no sanctions) Want the EU membership but support and lean more towards Russia and China to this day.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

Pure uncut cringe lol

 

[Dostoevsky]

Not attacking the entire nation. It’s a small minority who think this way, but not so small as one might hope.

But I do find it ironic that some of the Serbs/Macedonians/other Balkan residents on Tuz are attacking the US and NATO right now, parroting Putin’s whataboutism or even blaming them partially for creating this war.

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Would prefer we don’t test this theory.

Because west fucked us throughout the history. Russia were always our allies and brothers. It has nothing to do with Putin, but Russia.

I am really glad they are showing their true colors once again, lately it seemed that the world forgot about the genocides they did in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Apart from that they have been sitting in two chairs for way too long and even now they do the same (condemn but no sanctions) Want the EU membership but support and lean more towards Russia and China to this day.

99% of your posts in this thread are Serbia related, I love it.

 

[j0ker]

Because west fucked us throughout the history. Russia were always our allies and brothers. It has nothing to do with Putin, but Russia.



2: 99% of your posts in this thread are Serbia related, I love it.

Of course, I care about my neighbours.

 

[DAiDEViL]

FFS

Bitch peaked in Nip/tuck @Osman

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Because west fucked us throughout the history. Russia were always our allies and brothers. It has nothing to do with Putin, but Russia.



99% of your posts in this thread are Serbia related, I love it.

Why did west pick you out of everyone to fuck you over?

 

[j0ker]

I'm reading the reports on this. Three or four hundred members of far-right parties organized and attended this protest/event/whatever and harsh words were said on behalf of the Serbian government for its sanctions on Belarus and voting against Russia in the UN. I'm also reading the comments of the Serbian folks on twitter and elsewhere and the majority are criticizing this protest.
Tensions are high and the Serbs aren't really helping themselves, but I wouldn't go as far as to attack an entire nation which has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

Really? Just look what their leaders are saying.

 

[Bjerknes]

Come on guys, we don't need the war spilling over to Balkans plz.

 

[Siamak]

Because west fucked us throughout the history. Russia were always our allies and brothers. It has nothing to do with Putin, but Russia.



99% of your posts in this thread are Serbia related, I love it.

patriotism feeling

 

[Alen]

But I do find it ironic that some of the Serbs/Macedonians/other Balkan residents on Tuz are attacking the US and NATO right now, parroting Putin’s whataboutism or even blaming them partially for creating this war.

Yeah, there is a clear oppressor here and I agree that now it's not the time for "what about..."
Regarding NATO, though, an hour or so ago I watched one Ukrainian MP on CNN and she was really bitter and full of critics for NATO and their NO to Ukraine's no-fly zone request. One interesting thing she said, when the journalist told her that if NATO imposes a no-fly zone over Ukraine it will lead to war with Russia, was that history teaches us about another time when the Western countries allowed a certain someone to annex Austria or Czechoslovakia because not allowing him to do so would lead to war.

 

[JuveJay]

Really? Just look what their leaders are saying.

They must have a sore arse on that fence, but I can understand the reasons. There are questions as to what kind of Russia they'll be left relying on for their "fruitful military and energy" relationship months or years down the line.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah, there is a clear oppressor here and I agree that now it's not the time for "what about..."
Regarding NATO, though, an hour or so ago I watched one Ukrainian MP on CNN and she was really bitter and full of critics for NATO and their NO to Ukraine's no-fly zone request. One interesting thing she said, when the journalist told her that if NATO imposes a no-fly zone over Ukraine it will lead to war with Russia, was that history teaches us about another time when the Western countries allowed a certain someone to annex Austria or Czechoslovakia because not allowing him to do so would lead to war.

There's also the little detail of Russia invading poland the same as Germany, yet the frogs and brits never declared war on em.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yeah, there is a clear oppressor here and I agree that now it's not the time for "what about..."
Regarding NATO, though, an hour or so ago I watched one Ukrainian MP on CNN and she was really bitter and full of critics for NATO and their NO to Ukraine's no-fly zone request. One interesting thing she said, when the journalist told her that if NATO imposes a no-fly zone over Ukraine it will lead to war with Russia, was that history teaches us about another time when the Western countries allowed a certain someone to annex Austria or Czechoslovakia because not allowing him to do so would lead to war.

How exactly is nato supposed to put a no fly zone right next to Russia's border where Russia will be able to fire at NATO planes from the ground and launch attacks from airbases.

The only way NATO can do that is by preemptively bombing all of those locations in Russia. Directly attacking Russia. The people calling for a no fly zone have no idea what they are actually asking for.

 

[Tomice]

Pure uncut cringe lol

I'm not sure banning twitter is such a bad thing for the Russians

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Why did west pick you out of everyone to fuck you over?

is that a trick question?

 

[Alen]

Really? Just look what their leaders are saying.

Why are you calling them leaders?
And they are saying what is expected from them ahead of the 2022 elections - we should remain neutral in this war. Only one fool from a rightist opposition party (a party, I just learned, fighting for renewal of the Kingdom of Serbia, lol) took the side of Russia.
As a Croat I hear the same attacks on Serbs on daily level, but my opinion is that we shouldn't involve Serbia in this thread on the war in Ukraine. They are not a NATO, nor an EU country. They are a country that decided to remain neutral in this war.

 

[Tomice]

Yeah, there is a clear oppressor here and I agree that now it's not the time for "what about..."
Regarding NATO, though, an hour or so ago I watched one Ukrainian MP on CNN and she was really bitter and full of critics for NATO and their NO to Ukraine's no-fly zone request. One interesting thing she said, when the journalist told her that if NATO imposes a no-fly zone over Ukraine it will lead to war with Russia, was that history teaches us about another time when the Western countries allowed a certain someone to annex Austria or Czechoslovakia because not allowing him to do so would lead to war.

People need to come to terms that the west long ago decided that annexation of Ukraine is a possible outcome, even if undesirable. The "line" was never drawn on Ukrainian sand.
With that said I don't blame the Ukrainians for trying.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm not sure banning twitter is such a bad thing for the Russians

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is that a trick question?

That's my point, they fuck over anyone if given enough incentive

 

[j0ker]

Why are you calling them leaders?
And they are saying what is expected from them ahead of the 2022 elections - we should remain neutral in this war. Only one fool from a rightist opposition party (a party, I just learned, fighting for renewal of the Kingdom of Serbia, lol) took the side of Russia.
As a Croat I hear the same attacks on Serbs on daily level, but my opinion is that we shouldn't involve Serbia in this thread on the war in Ukraine. They are not a NATO, nor an EU country. They are a country that decided to remain neutral in this war.

Very neutral from what I am seeing from the videos above.

 

[Dostoevsky]

They must have a sore arse on that fence, but I can understand the reasons. There are questions as to what kind of Russia they'll be left relying on for their "fruitful military and energy" relationship months or years down the line.

For days I've been thinking about the scenario in the future and, eventhough you might be right about the Russian part, I believe the EU is gonna suffer badly from this point on. I think we're going to see massive inflation and empty shelves. Raw materials will lack and smaller countries will keep the food for themselves mostly which will fuck up everything. It's not just wheat and gas but all other things the EU is dependent on. Now, I'm not saying the EU is gonna suffer more than Russia, just to make myself clear, but I do expect a huge shitstorm. We're already feeing it here on our own skin eventhough we're not a part of it. Prices are gonna skyrocket and currencies are gonna crumble. This war between Ukraine and Russia will leave a huge trace in Europe.

Really? Just look what their leaders are saying.

You're either not familiar with the political scene or you're just inventing shit. Because that's like saying current Juve leader is Fagioli.

Also, we should stay neutral.

 

[Alen]

Very neutral from what I am seeing from the videos above.

Well, they did sign all those declarations in support for territorial integrity of Ukraine. You can hear the politician from the ruling party (somewhere around 3:25) saying: "Serbia respects territorial integrity of Ukraine and that is our stance".
This won't go well in Russia, so why is he saying this? If you are from Kosovo, you know exactly why is he saying it. But this being Serbia's stance shows that they are looking after their own interest, even if it's not Russia's interest.