Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (58 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

And per my last post, that is a last great bargaining chip. Good poker players don't blow their wad too early. People are complaining about sanction loopholes, Russian oil, etc. That's your deterrent.

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Well, the USSR had a famine in 1921, 1932 and in 1947. It took almost 100 years to change the regime of the USSR and is debatable if it was because of poverty or because the US took a huge advantage in the Cold War during Reagan’s presidency. Also, remember that Putin’s Russia has China as an ally, which the USSR did not have.

Yes, famine in Ukraine and Kazakhstan while other regions wasnt affected by it, while now THE WHOLE country is going to suffer all together, why you don't get it

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't know the history. I just assumed that this was the case.
BTW I used to watch Venezuelan soap operas (telenovelas) with my mother when I was 14 to 16 years old. Boy, they had so much hot chicks in there.

I'm no expert myself. From what I understand Maduro picked up what Chavez started in 1999 with his socialism. But the decline started before with their economy heavily dependent on oil. Not to mention the US sanctions don't help.

But I am an expert on Venezuelan ladies however and I confirm that you are correct.

Anyway enough OT from me

 

[Bjerknes]

This is awesome

 

[JuventusUruguay]

Yes, famine in Ukraine and Kazakhstan while other regions wasnt affected by it, while now THE WHOLE country is going to suffer all together, why you don't get it

Okay boy, when Putin is overthrown and Russia starts being a democratic country, you can quote me again. Let’s hope is not in 20 years.

 

[Osman]

Actually what if Putin watched Code Geass recently and got the bright idea to unite the whole world against him?

Knowing Putin, he prolly thinks he is more like Charles Zi Britannia, already the ruler of the world, just the world doesn't know it yet

 

[Elvin]

Okay boy, when Putin is overthrown and Russia starts being a democratic country, you can quote me again. Let’s hope is not in 20 years.

Even if it doesn't work, there is nothing else that can be done at this point. This is the best shot, and they're taking it. Dont be a negative nelly

 

[U Picciriddu]

Okay boy, when Putin is overthrown and Russia starts being a democratic country, you can quote me again. Let’s hope is not in 20 years.

It’s debatable whether starvation will reach Russia as they’re called the bread basket of Europe (together with Ukraine) as their production of grain is among the best and most productive of Europe.

His concerns are the ability for Russians to live a normal life as inflation will skyrocket, many people will lose their jobs at Western companies, importing good will become a serious issue and China won’t be able to replace the West within a day. As things stand now, there’s no (gas) pipeline connecting Russia and China and, imported goods have to be paid in some way.

If anything, Russians living in big cities in the east part of the country are as European and used to Europe’s standard as people living in Rome or Paris.

There’s a big difference between now and the past, even with Russian propaganda following Western news is much more easier compared to 70 years ago, obviously.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Brainwashed by rap music?



Nah, do tell.

 

[Siamak]

I just turned tv on and bbc reported that russia shelled the nuclear power station! RIP Ukraine.

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I don’t understand what you’re trying to say

maybe he is drunk but people try to get their views in these kind of situation

 

[swag]

It’s easier to control a starving society. Aside from the fact that western companies could serve as opposition to Putin’s government. You are blind by your feelings toward this situation.

Russian oligarchs with frozen assets are also more likely to kiss the ring than when they were cruising the Caribbean on their luxury yachts.

But I don't see how Western companies can change Russian culture from within. BigMac democracy only goes so far.

Influence Russian society. As they did with Black Lives Matter in the US.

No presence = no leverage, that's true. But I have little faith that Russians would look to foreign business as a guidance over domestic sources.

This country is left without airplanes, without software, without intel and amd processors, without new cars and spare parts for old cats, our national assets are frozen, are you fucking kidding me?

The no airplanes one is gonna be insane. A nation as huge as Russia, what are they going to do ... take 6 day train trips for supply lines which used to be a 6-hour flight?

I have no clue how easy it will be to sway the loyalties of Russian military generals. But given where I live now, they can play a key role in transitioning the country. The question is to who... other than a military dictate? All of Putin's opponents have been eradicated with toxic underwear.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Russian oligarchs with frozen assets are also more likely to kiss the ring than when they were cruising the Caribbean on their luxury yachts.

But I don't see how Western companies can change Russian culture from within. BigMac democracy only goes so far.



No presence = no leverage, that's true. But I have little faith that Russians would look to foreign business as a guidance over domestic sources.



The no airplanes one is gonna be insane. A nation as huge as Russia, what are they going to do ... take 6 day train trips for supply lines which used to be a 6-hour flight?

I have no clue how easy it will be to sway the loyalties of Russian military generals. But given where I live now, they can play a key role in transitioning the country. The question is to who... other than a military dictate? All of Putin's opponents have been eradicated with toxic underwear.

There is only 1 option - ask chinese to use their airplanes to work in Russia but the deal will be complicated

 

[campionesidd]

Okay boy, when Putin is overthrown and Russia starts being a democratic country, you can quote me again. Let’s hope is not in 20 years.

Based on everything you’ve said so far, do you really think these companies would’ve been better off trying to show themselves as anti-war in Russia instead of pulling out? You seem to contradict yourself.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Based on everything you’ve said so far, do you really think these companies would’ve been better off trying to show themselves as anti-war in Russia instead of pulling out? You seem to contradict yourself.

Also russian ruble is pretty much dead so with this they are avoiding its worthlessness

 

[IliveForJuve]

Idk why people in this bread seem to think Venezuela was a shithole prior to Maduro/later Chavez years. The average Venezuelan lived a better life than the average Russian before 2014. Just look up their economic and social indicators.

Also, their democracy was in no worse shape than Russia's even when Chavez started reforming the constitution for indefinite re-elections.

 

[Elvin]

Idk why people in this bread seem to think Venezuela was a shithole prior to Maduro/later Chavez years. The average Venezuelan lived a better life than the average Russian before 2014. Just look up their economic and social indicators.

Also, their democracy was in no worse shape than Russia's even when Chavez started reforming the constitution for indefinite re-elections.

Does Venezela have Coca-Cola?

 

[Cerval]

Kremlin will be giving 15 years of prison for those that propagate "false news", and that includes foreign journalist that are present there

 

[IliveForJuve]

Does Venezela have Coca-Cola?

No idea if they have Coca-Cola these days but they sure did before 2014.

And they had all the American stuff that make you obese too.

 

[Elvin]

No idea if they have Coca-Cola these days but they sure did before 2014.

And they had all the American stuff that make you obese too.

Well think of any global brand, Russia doesnt have it, and whatever is left is absolute garbage.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Well think of any global brand, Russia doesnt have it, and whatever is left is absolute garbage.

Maybe JJ branding will finally become a succes now there’s no competition anymore in Russia