Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (77 Viewers)

[JUVEMOOD]

Did WWIII start or not yet?
When are we going to die?
2 months? 8 months? Or in 2 years?



As it stands, this is heading to nuke war globally

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[Juventino[RUS]]

Yep Saddam was a brutal dictator just like a lot of other dictators around the world. And i dont think US gave two shits about Kurds. My point is there is not a big of difference. They both attacked Iraq and Ukraine for their own good.
About the anti-war protests in Russia dont mean shit i remember protests against the war in Iraq where a lot bigger in numbers.

Absolute nonsense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances?wprov=sfla1
Did you hear about this?

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Russia has violated this memorandum, how can you even try to find a parallel with what that cocksucker from Kremlin is doing and Iraq invasion bullshit

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Fucking surreal

 

[pavelnel]

Can someone tell me the difference of what Putin is doing in Ukraine and Bush did in Iraq? Im talking about attacking a sovreign country. Why the first one had the right to do it and the second doesnt?

Dictators everywhere are risk for the regional stability, but dictators with nuclear weapons are risk for the survival of the humanity.
As far I remember many people in Iraq celebrated his ousting. There is no doubt in my mind he would have ignited regional conflict again, if he had not been removed from power.
No one in Ukraine is welcoming the russians and Zelenskyy has never been a threat to anyone.
As far I am concerned dictators and people who support them should be bombed out of existence. They are demented individuals who cause only pain and suffering and never ever change. They only become more brutal and aggressive with time.

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[Strickland]

Can someone tell me the difference of what Putin is doing in Ukraine and Bush did in Iraq? Im talking about attacking a sovreign country. Why the first one had the right to do it and the second doesnt?

There are plenty of differences, but main point is that USA didnt have the right and neither does Putin.

Now what Im interested in is are you aware that Putin also brought up Iraqi war in his speech on why NATO is horrible and Ukraine cant be allowed to Westernize.

After watching that speech in full I was astounded to find out that quite a few tuzzers who're not Putins apologists quote him almost word for word

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

At the end of the day Ghaddafi, Hussein, Milosevic, Assad etc. All these scumbags did everything to let the UN, NATO and US to invade their countries, Ukrainians never did nothing wrong, no ethnic cleanings, no autocracy, no fascism, no nazim as the form of ruling, Putin and his friends are madman lunatics who thinks that Ukraine can't exists without Russia, that's the only reason why it's all has happening

 

[Juve_fanatic]

Dont believe anything you see in the media....

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Dont believe anything you see in the media....

Yeah all the videos of Russian invasion are staged by reptiloids from secret worldwide government

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[pavelnel]

Dont believe anything you see in the media....

Say that again when a brutal Bulgarian dictator decides to occupy and carpet bombs your country because you wanted a better life.

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[Bisco]

Huge difference, America Vs Saddam has a long story of their relationships and Saddam was an absolute scumbag, while Ukraine never did nothing wrong to the world or to the Russians

saddam is very much a scumbag, however after the end of the gulf war 1990 Iraq was sanctioned and brought to its knees and was pretty much a non player in the middle east until 2003. also prior to the 1990 gulf war, the united states along with the gulf states funded his army during the 8-year war with Iran.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

8 years ago students in Kiev came out to protest against Yanukovych, because he promised them European integration, but did not keep his promise and failed them. For this, Yanukovych sent the police to beat these students, they were detained and arrested, a day later all of Kyiv came out to protect them and to protest against Yanukovich and that's how the Maidan began. During this events Putin ordered his muppet Yanukovych to flee the country, in his sick mind Ukraine cannot be a member of the EU and a member of NATO and Ukraine cannot live withour Russia so he brought in troops and annexed Crimea, opened the border in eastern Ukraine and sent thugs, soldiers of fortune, criminals, all the rabble that was led by people from the army of the Russian Federation. They overthrew local governments in Luhansk and Donetsk, which led to the creation of the LNR and DNR, then they tried to move further and capture more cities but the Ukrainian army fought back and this whole conflict dragged on for 8 years, going from hot war to cold war and back. Also, these animals shot down a civilian plane over the Donbass, but still have not claimed responsibility, and it is obvious to the whole world that it was the Russian BUK from which the plane was shot down but Putin and his bastards still deny everything. All these 8+ years, Putin's propaganda has been telling us Russians that the Nazis and fascists overthrew the legitimate government in Ukraine, seized all the cities, that they are russophobes and hate russians and that Putin is saving the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine from Bandera's followers and his supporters. And it worked because propaganda is hell of a drug, people were zombfied by it and their brains are clouded. Other problem is that many russians do not know how to speak and read in English, even in the era of social networks they don't receive information from external sources from outside of the russia, all they have is russian social networks and state owned TV channels with Putin's propaganda. When you have been brainwashed for 20 years with the information that the leader of your country is a genius and strategist then it is almost impossible for you to believe that he's a madman lunatic who lost his mind.

 

[Post Ironic]

There are plenty of differences, but main point is that USA didnt have the right and neither does Putin.

Now what Im interested in is are you aware that Putin also brought up Iraqi war in his speech on why NATO is horrible and Ukraine cant be allowed to Westernize.

After watching that speech in full I was astounded to find out that quite a few tuzzers who're not Putins apologists quote him almost word for word

It’s amazing how many people can’t put two and two together here. One doesn’t have to be a Putin apologist to be a “useful idiot” for Putin and Russian propaganda.

 

[Nzoric]

At the end of the day Ghaddafi, Hussein, Milosevic, Assad etc. All these scumbags did everything to let the UN, NATO and US to invade their countries

Bitch please


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[Juventino[RUS]]

Bitch please


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Gaddafi
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/18/muammar-gaddafi-war-crimes-files
Hussein
https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2761722&page=1
Milosevic
https://www.dw.com/en/the-charges-against-slobodan-milosevic/a-1931386
Assad
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-...f-assad-regime-war-criminals-is-long/1887886#

 

[Nzoric]

Oh Im not arguing that theyre not crooks. But its madness to suggest that any of those countries shouldve been bombed or invaded. And that is exactly the issue with the US/NATO countries - we were in bed with Saddam and are in bed with regimes as bad or worse than those.

INB4 whattaboutism lolol. This has nothing to do with Ukraine, it has to do with Rus’ justification of western military operations with a +1 million bodycount that for some reason are justified


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[Juventino[RUS]]

Oh Im not arguing that theyre not crooks. But its madness to suggest that any of those countries shouldve been bombed or invaded. And that is exactly the issue with the US/NATO countries - we were in bed with Saddam and are in bed with regimes as bad or worse than those.

INB4 whattaboutism lolol. This has nothing to do with Ukraine, it has to do with Rus’ justification of western military operations with a +1 million bodycount that for some reason are justified


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Yeah lets sit and do nothing instead while they genocide its own people

 

[Nzoric]

Yeah lets sit and do nothing instead while they genocide its own people

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[s4tch]

for anyone saying that this ukrainian government isn't legit:

they had 74% of the votes and it was a legitimate, democratic election. orbán would be fucking proud to have anything above 60%. he had to hack the legislation to have 2/3 of the parliament seats with barely 50% of the votes lol

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I'm up to my elbows in Mexicans and yes they have a significant obesity problem

You're doing it wrong.

 

[U Picciriddu]

General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

18 min.

The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 03.03 were approximately / The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 03.03 were approximately:

#stoprussia

personnel / approx.

9000 oci6,

tanks - 217 units,

armored combat vehicles / APV - 900 units,

artillery systems - 90,

PC3B / MLRS - 42,

anti-aircraft warfare systems - 11, aircraft / aircraft - 30 units (information to be specified),

helicopters - 31 units (information to be specified);

automotive technology / vehicles - 374,

light speedboats - 2 units,

Fuel tanks - 60,

UAV operational-tactical level / UAV operational-tactical level - 3,

 

[s4tch]

https://www.reuters.com/business/corporate-ties-russia-uprooted-sanctions-tighten-2022-02-28/

that list is broootal. putin wanted to recreate the soviet union, here it is already lol