Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (47 Viewers)

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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Nothing is stupid, all sanctions pile the pressure up until this entire bullshit stops.

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It depends if you talking with full minded person maybe.
But you're talking about Putin...
Will he surrender to international pressure or double down to end things faster and then de-escalate?
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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The guy who produces them is erdogan's son in law. i am sure only thing they have in mind is giving them free publicity.
Yeah the only thing they have in mind right now in the media is how can they spin this to be anti-Turkey

Also you think this was something that wasn't taken into consideration before your government approved the sale?

You can't have your cake and eat it too. and Erdogan loves cakes
 
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You think this was something that wasn't taken into consideration before your government approved the sale?

You can't have your cake and eat it too. and Erdogan loves cakes
did you ever see headlines likes russian ak-47's massacred ....., american f-16 bombed the shit out of ....., italian benelli murdered ..... ?

ukraine bought them, they can use it however they want and it has nothing to do with manufacturer.
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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did you ever see headlines likes russian ak-47's massacred ....., american f-16 bombed the shit out of ....., italian benelli murdered ..... ?

ukraine bought them, they can use it however they want and it has nothing to do with manufacturer.
Yes, all the time.
Of course no one mention small arms like AK's but this all conflict has been a huge arms marketing exhibition. from rocket launchers to fighters jets.
And if you think arms manufacturers don't love this type of publicity you are super naïve.
 
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Jun 16, 2020
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Ukraine offers €41k to every Russian soldier willing to lay down arms.

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General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine 28 min. Facebook for Android

The total estimated losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 01.03 as of 06:00 were:

Personnel - 5,710 people, 200 prisoners. Destroyed and damaged aircraft - 29 units,

helicopters - 29 units,

tanks - 198,

BBM - 846

artillery systems - 77, air defense means-7,

PC3B - 24,

Fuel tanks - 60,

UAV operational and tactical level - 3, boats - 2 units,

automotive equipment - 305.

Data are being updated. Count

complicated by the high intensity of hostilities.

#stoprussia
 
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Russia mostly focussing on transporting their units I think this morning. That transport line is so stretched out, hopefully Ukraine seizes the opportunity and ambushes them whenever possible.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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In a way I agree, this is hard and they need to be helped and it sounds like the process needs to go faster.

However, arguably the only racist thing mentioned there is not giving a bus ride to Indian women and children (if I understood correctly), the rest sounds like standard crisis rules - women and children first. It's just that there are only foreign men, since Ukrainians have to stay and be bombed by Putin.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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When in a high-stress situation like now, this sort of 'racism' would happen and I suppose you could ignore it because people are scared for their lives. If an ethnic minority person picked up arms to defend Ukraine, they'd be heroes so it's a non-story.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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God, I hate Twitter threads. Use Medium, Substack, WordPress, something...

But give this a Google Translate and you know what the insider Russian mentality is about their existential war and restoring the anti-Western glory that is Mother of All Russia

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html
Wtf. How can anyone be this retarded. :rofl:
America juice.

Just think about it - on this day ALL RUSSIAN SPORT is dead, they can't compete, they can't use Russian colors, have you seen that any of them has said anything against Putin???? Exactly, they all are Putin's dogs , fuck them all
Nice timing after the Olympics tho....

I would put that chance at close to zero.

Putin overplayed his hand and has effectivly gone all in.
Anything other then total victory, military wise, at this point will be a final cuartin call on his rule.
He can deal with the economic fallout, maybe with a military failure, but not both. And since the west tanked his enconomy already a total victory is the only option he has left.

The only chance for this to stop at anything other then russian victory is on the slim chance Putin himself gets removed
Yeah, Putin is on a suicide mission now.

This is why I think the most important part of the war is Russia domestically. If its citizens and military can say, "The Emperor has no shirt ... and a death wish for Russia", then there's a chance for a saner ending. This essentially requires a kind of military-backed coup ... getting the military to get fed up dying to kill brothers while the country's finances and citizen options go in the toilet.
 

Tomice

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s4tch

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funny how they removed this from the original website and only available from the archive. i read it the other day, a must read for all interested, captures well a certain russian mentality indeed. question is how well this idea is represented in current russian society/army. as someone wrote earlier, many young russian soldiers won't give a shit about this war and would rather go home.
 

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