Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (74 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

Sberbank (Russian bank) is likely to fall Dutch press reports

 

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[radekas]

@Kopanja please report whenever you can. Just need to know that you are ok.

 

[Kopanja]

Just got back, delivered water. That’s all, can’t talk anymore.

 

[IliveForJuve]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...ing-fighting-in-considerable-numbers-12554657

@JuveJay we about to get some pretty Ukrainian neighbours.

In b4 commies start rambling about the West being hypocrites for opening their doors to Ukrainians but not Afghans.

 

[Tomice]

Just got back, delivered water. That’s all, can’t talk anymore.

Stay safe my little Nazi

 

[Dostoevsky]

Sberbank (Russian bank) is likely to fall Dutch press reports

My friend used to work there like 5 years ago. IIRC Russian central bank owns 51-55% of that bank. I think it has to fail at this point, either that or some other bank will take their business.

 

[s4tch]

Just got back, delivered water. That’s all, can’t talk anymore.

stay strong, man.

 

[Elvin]

Sanctions are historically ineffective at leading to regime change, e.g. Cuba, DPRK, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Turkey, Myanmar, but it’s the only real measure available outside of military action.

That said Putin built his image around bringing stability after the socioeconomic and political trauma of the 90s (even though most of that stability can be credited to rising global oil prices), but with the war and sanctions he’s risking all of that sentiment amongst his supporter base.

You are missing two key points here tho: 1. These are sactions of unprecedented volume; 2. Russians, and especially the population of Moscow, which is basically the entire country in reality, are too used to the good life and perks of globalization, unlike the countries you mentioned (minus Türkiye).

 

[U Picciriddu]

Ukraine will most likely join the EU trough a special procedure

 

[Ronn]

You are missing two key points here tho: 1. These are sactions of unprecedented volume; 2. Russians, and especially the population of Moscow, which is basically the entire country in reality, are too used to the good life and perks of globalization, unlike the countries you mentioned (minus Türkiye).

Are you saying sanctions will trigger massive uprising against Putin? I doubt it.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Are you saying sanctions will trigger massive uprising against Putin? I doubt it.

When their country will fall in bankruptcy it most likely will. This war might become a Russian revolution more than anything else, if the sanctions work and Ukraine doesn’t fall.

 

[Elvin]

Are you saying sanctions will trigger massive uprising against Putin? I doubt it.

I'm sure of it.

 

[DAiDEViL]

When their country will fall in bankruptcy it most likely will. This war might become a Russian revolution more than anything else, if the sanctions work and Ukraine doesn’t fall.

Hopefully they don't hate the evil west for the sanctions and the support for Putin grows...

 

[Ronn]

When their country will fall in bankruptcy it most likely will. This war might become a Russian revolution more than anything else, if the sanctions work and Ukraine doesn’t fall.

That’s wishful thinking. Average citizens are very reluctant to risk their lives against someone so accustomed to killing, and also controls what’s left of the economy. Sanctions just increase the inequality, since Putin will make sure the ones fundamental to his rule remain well compensated.

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I'm sure of it.

And the basis for your confidence?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

NBC news chief foreign correspondent sitting in his 30 Rock office and openly rooting for WWIII. What a piece of shit.

It's this hubris/delusion that if only people smart like him were in power things would be so much better.

 

[IliveForJuve]

That’s wishful thinking. Average citizens are very reluctant to risk their lives against someone so accustomed to killing, and also controls what’s left of the economy. Sanctions just increase the inequality, since Putin will make sure the ones fundamental to his rule remain well compensated.

And he'll increase the salary of cops and military personnel to keep up with inflation/exchange rate.

Doesn't matter if they turn into Venezuela 2.0., it'll be extremely hard to remove Putin.

 

[Elvin]

That’s wishful thinking. Average citizens are very reluctant to risk their lives against someone so accustomed to killing, and also controls what’s left of the economy. Sanctions just increase the inequality, since Putin will make sure the ones fundamental to his rule remain well compensated.

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And the basis for your confidence?

There is no loyalty to any ideology in Russia, the only thing keeping population in check is fear and money, once those instilling that fear lose their money, it's over.

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And he'll increase the salary of cops and military personnel to keep up with inflation/exchange rate.

Doesn't matter if they turn into Venezuela 2.0., it'll be extremely hard to remove Putin.

With what?

 

[IliveForJuve]

There is no loyalty to any ideology in Russia, the only thing keeping population in check is fear and money, once those instilling that fear lose their money, it's over.

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With what?

They'll probably just print more money.

How do you think Nicolas Maduro is still president of Venezuela? It's the most miserable country in the world but the fucker has a tight grip on the military and police.

 

[Tomice]

There is no loyalty to any ideology in Russia, the only thing keeping population in check is fear and money, once those instilling that fear lose their money, it's over.

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With what?

I think you are undervaluing what over a century of propaganda and brainwashing does to the public psych of nations. Most russians outside Moscow and st. Petersburg haven't left the 19th century behind.

 

[Elvin]

I think you are undervaluing what over a century of propaganda and brainwashing does to the public psych of nations. Most russians outside Moscow and st. Petersburg haven't left the 19th century behind.

You are undervaluing Moscow's quality of life and influence over the entire country. Moscow is Russia, Moskovites will resolve this.