Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (51 Viewers)

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Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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    Possible scenarios for this conflict (IMO):

    1- Russia and Ukraine negotiate an end to the war with several concessions to Russia
    2- “Syria” scenario: Ukraine does not concede anything to Russia and Russia proceeds to completely destroy Ukraine, plus future years of fighting against guerrilla

    Honestly, I don’t see any scenario in which Ukraine wins. I think we will have the second scenario, although Ukraine negotiating in Belarus tells me the first one is possible (negotiating in the country allied with Russia and Russia with nuclear bombs as a backup, those negotiations cannot go well for Ukraine). This is why I was so concerned with the fact that no aid from the West was offered to Ukraine BEFORE the conflict. Russia is “losing” now because they haven’t decide to make a completely bloodshed. The moment they start attacking with all their force (which I’m sure will be soon since they had so many deaths), Ukraine will be fucked.
     

    Albo

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    Why? 0 tolerance towards Russia from all fronts, now we will have our own world cup between us, Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan, Abkhazia, DNR, LNR, Prednistrovie
    this might target civilans too like yourself , also the idea to "freez" crypto exchange acocunts doesn't seem okay to me , for example why should binance freeze your account ? you didn't do nothing worng .
     

    Juventino[RUS]

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    Mar 9, 2006
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    BMW, mercedes, Volvo, Hyundai, Microsoft, McDonalds, coca cola, IKEA should stop their business in Russia too, otherwise this brainwashed with Putin's propaganda retarded Russian population won't understand shit

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    this might target civilans too like yourself , also the idea to "freez" crypto exchange acocunts doesn't seem okay to me , for example why should binance freeze your account ? you didn't do nothing worng .
    Collateral damage, I gave up on russian society long time ago

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    You just don't understand what's going, did you hear anything from Russia footballers ?? Did you hear anything from Russian famous athletes?? Didnt you notice that they ALL keep silence??? They all are Putin's Muppets, fuck them all

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    ANY sane Russian understands that Putin, Shoigu, Naryshkin erc. are all enemies of our state, we didn't elect them, we are their hostages, we can't do shit against them because police will send me to jail for anti war or any other protests and I don't need it, I won't go to jail becuase our population are dumb as fuck and can't see the evil
     
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    Juventino[RUS]

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    Just think about it - on this day ALL RUSSIAN SPORT is dead, they can't compete, they can't use Russian colors, have you seen that any of them has said anything against Putin???? Exactly, they all are Putin's dogs , fuck them all

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    From my point of view, Russian NT should have made a statement that they all are against the war in Ukraine and against what Putin is doing but they won't do it, they all are getting paid with a very good money and they don't want to lose it because if they will go against our government and they might lose their contracts because they will be sanctioned by their clubs and our football federation

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    And it's been like this for years, almost all of famous Russian athletes were used as a part of propaganda, Ovechkin and Malkin as a Putin's team members etc. Etc.
     
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    Powis

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    BMW, mercedes, Volvo, Hyundai, Microsoft, McDonalds, coca cola, IKEA should stop their business in Russia too, otherwise this brainwashed with Putin's propaganda retarded Russian population won't understand shit

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    Collateral damage, I gave up on russian society long time ago

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    You just don't understand what's going, did you hear anything from Russia footballers ?? Did you hear anything from Russian famous athletes?? Didnt you notice that they ALL keep silence??? They all are Putin's Muppets, fuck them all

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    ANY sane Russian understands that Putin, Shoigu, Naryshkin erc. are all enemies of our state, we didn't elect them, we are their hostages, we can't do shit against them because police will send me to jail for anti war or any other protests and I don't need it, I won't go to jail becuase our population are dumb as fuck and can't see the evil
    Any footballer apart from Smolov has said anything yet?
    Also, I've seen that surprisingly quite a lot russian singers have shared "net voyne" on their insta pages. Including some of my favs like Niletto or Mot. I imagine they must have some influence over there, so sharing stuff like this is still better than nothing.
     

    Juventino[RUS]

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    Any footballer apart from Smolov has said anything yet?
    Also, I've seen that surprisingly quite a lot russian singers have shared "net voyne" on their insta pages. Including some of my favs like Niletto or Mot. I imagine they must have some influence over there, so sharing stuff like this is still better than nothing.
    Dude, no to war is a bullshit statement, until they won't call out Putin it doesn't mean shit
     

    Tomice

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    Mar 25, 2009
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    Excellent thread by this dude

    Spot on analysis imo

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    Media always said it was just a matter of time before the Russians would gain control of all the major cities, regardless of the L´s they´ve taken these first days.

    But is it even a possible scenario here that the whole invasion will fail, they just never succeed and call it quits?
    I would put that chance at close to zero.

    Putin overplayed his hand and has effectivly gone all in.
    Anything other then total victory, military wise, at this point will be a final cuartin call on his rule.
    He can deal with the economic fallout, maybe with a military failure, but not both. And since the west tanked his enconomy already a total victory is the only option he has left.

    The only chance for this to stop at anything other then russian victory is on the slim chance Putin himself gets removed
     
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    JCK

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    Nothing is stupid, all sanctions pile the pressure up until this entire bullshit stops.

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    BMW, mercedes, Volvo, Hyundai, Microsoft, McDonalds, coca cola, IKEA should stop their business in Russia too, otherwise this brainwashed with Putin's propaganda retarded Russian population won't understand shit

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    Collateral damage, I gave up on russian society long time ago

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    You just don't understand what's going, did you hear anything from Russia footballers ?? Did you hear anything from Russian famous athletes?? Didnt you notice that they ALL keep silence??? They all are Putin's Muppets, fuck them all

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    ANY sane Russian understands that Putin, Shoigu, Naryshkin erc. are all enemies of our state, we didn't elect them, we are their hostages, we can't do shit against them because police will send me to jail for anti war or any other protests and I don't need it, I won't go to jail becuase our population are dumb as fuck and can't see the evil
    Volvo stopped the operation of the factory in Kaluga and Volvo Cars stopped all export to Russia.
     

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