Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (65 Viewers)

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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No wonder Russia wants to expand when they still hold a parade like this every year. I get WW2 was a massive trauma for them, it's very understandable when you lose +20 million lives in a war like that. But they simply became the new Nazis themselves, highly militaristic nation dreaming of former glory.

Imagine what they could have achieved if they had set themselves to build a better economy and country. Soviet minds were second to none in the world, but were utterly wasted in this bureaucratic and autocratic quagmire (apart from developing some military and space technology).
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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lol you and your laughing smilies, thinking you got it all
I don’t. But I’m not brainwashed by dictators to the point of the thinking Western propaganda is anything like Russian and Chinese state backed propaganda. We have free press here, and while it may have its own issues and susceptibilities it’s a free and independent press. But carry on your anti-nato, anti-west crusade. Seems like it’s working out well for you.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Imagine what they could have achieved if they had set themselves to build a better economy and country for themselves. Soviet minds were second to none in the world, but were utterly wasted in this bureaucratic and autocratic quagmire (apart from developing some military and space technology).
Couldn't agree more.

What Russia is doing now reminds a lot of Germany leading up to WW1 and especially WW2. Highly militaristic and paranoid nations.

The West trying appeasement as well, although not anymore.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Imagine what they could have achieved if they had set themselves to build a better economy and country. Soviet minds were second to none in the world, but were utterly wasted in this bureaucratic and autocratic quagmire (apart from developing some military and space technology).
maybe it's a good thing they have wasted all of their human and natural resources - imagine a truly strong autocratic empire.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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I don’t. But I’m not brainwashed by dictators to the point of the thinking Western propaganda is anything like Russian and Chinese state backed propaganda. We have free press here, and while it may have its own issues and susceptibilities it’s a free and independent press. But carry on your anti-nato, anti-west crusade. Seems like it’s working out well for you.
Words are getting twisted here by every minute. Arguing about certain topics seems impossible and you're not making it any easier, especially when it comes to certain topics like corona or Morata. It's like your weak spot when you start laughing at others, thinking how the other side is wrong by default. Same goes about this here.

I never said I love China, I never said I support this invasion, I never said I hate Ukrania nor I ever said I support dictators. But I guess people define everything by how they wanna see it. Even worse when trolling starts, people usually look quite retarded.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Words are getting twisted here by every minute. Arguing about certain topics seems impossible and you're not making it any easier, especially when it comes to certain topics like corona or Morata. It's like your weak spot when you start laughing at others, thinking how the other side is wrong by default. Same goes about this here.

I never said I love China, I never said I support this invasion, I never said I hate Ukrania nor I ever said I support dictators. But I guess people define everything by how they wanna see it. Even worse when trolling starts, people usually look quite retarded.
You indeed havent, but the way you approach subject, what if Russia built military base, etc... rubbs off people the wrong way. Maybe not to use agenda against west every time some dictator tries to invade another country?
 
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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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Words are getting twisted here by every minute. Arguing about certain topics seems impossible and you're not making it any easier, especially when it comes to certain topics like corona or Morata. It's like your weak spot when you start laughing at others, thinking how the other side is wrong by default. Same goes about this here.

I never said I love China, I never said I support this invasion, I never said I hate Ukrania nor I ever said I support dictators. But I guess people define everything by how they wanna see it. Even worse when trolling starts, people usually look quite retarded.
You may not have said any of those things, but you are parroting Kremlin propaganda about NATO and Russian national security. And you keep repeating it despite everyone here telling you why those talking points are wrong.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Words are getting twisted here by every minute. Arguing about certain topics seems impossible and you're not making it any easier, especially when it comes to certain topics like corona or Morata. It's like your weak spot when you start laughing at others, thinking how the other side is wrong by default. Same goes about this here.

I never said I love China, I never said I support this invasion, I never said I hate Ukrania nor I ever said I support dictators. But I guess people define everything by how they wanna see it. Even worse when trolling starts, people usually look quite retarded.
Yeah, Morata. Good point, dude. :baus:

And please, your false equivalencies, logical fallacies, and general incoherence about west vs east topics are hilarious. You constantly lie, claim all facts and numbers released in the west are lies, ignore everything that doesn’t suit whatever conspiracy theory you have latched onto lately. No one has said you said any of those things in the second part of your post. You claim others put words in your mouth, you do the same constantly. And you take up every single contrarian, anti-science, anti-western government, red pill position you can. It’s sad. And embarrassing.

You want to talk about my weak spot being laughing at others and thinking I’m right by default? About Covid? Says the guy who constantly posts “what do Covid vaccines do again :lol: “, “only brainless would think Covid vaccines or masks are effective :lol: “ , etc etc. Get off your own high horse.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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You may not have said any of those things, but you are parroting Kremlin propaganda about NATO and Russian national security. And you keep repeating it despite everyone here telling you why those talking points are wrong.
:agree: Everyone dumps on America when they’re in the wrong and do shitty things. Right now, this isn’t about America. It’s about Russia under Putin invading a sovereign democratic nation for the egotistical ambitions of a tyrant. Talking endlessly about NATO and the West are bad too, just takes the focus off the actual current issue and atrocity being committed. And is exactly what Putin wants to be happening in the west.

It was the same with his Covid vaccines and masks and measures don’t work in the slightest. Show him multiple studies and evidence that they do work and he just ignores it or claims western governments just fudging things to manipulate us all like everyone else is brainwashed but him and the other red pills.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Yeah, Morata. Good point, dude. :baus:

And please, your false equivalencies, logical fallacies, and general incoherence about west vs east topics are hilarious. You constantly lie, claim all facts and numbers released in the west are lies, ignore everything that doesn’t suit whatever conspiracy theory you have latched onto lately. No one has said you said any of those things in the second part of your post. You claim others put words in your mouth, you do the same constantly. And you take up every single contrarian, anti-science, anti-western government, red pill position you can. It’s sad. And embarrassing.

You want to talk about my weak spot being laughing at others and thinking I’m right by default? About Covid? Says the guy who constantly posts “what do Covid vaccines do again :lol: “, “only brainless would think Covid vaccines or masks are effective :lol: “ , etc etc. Get off your own high horse.
I never read eastern newspapers nor I link them but you wank over every piece of news that you see and that's a huge difference. At least I'm aware of the propaganda unlike you, obviously, since you see every headline as THE TRUTH.

Speaking about high horse. Funny how everything is so simple and one-sided, as you carry more knowledge than politicians. But sure, keep it up with your cute smilies, you look quite mature and smart.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I never read eastern newspapers nor I link them but you wank over every piece of news that you see and that's a huge difference. At least I'm aware of the propaganda unlike you, obviously, since you see every headline as THE TRUTH.

Speaking about high horse. Funny how everything is so simple and one-sided, as you carry more knowledge than politicians. But sure, keep it up with your cute smilies, you look quite mature and smart.
This from the guy who posts lol and/or :lol: with all his anti-science Covid posts.

You are so correct. How’d you know!?! Such genius. I see every headline as THE TRUTH. That’s it. Whereas you see every stupid ass conspiracy theory you come across as THE TRUTH. All caps. Cute. “You look quite mature and smart.”
 

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