Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (112 Viewers)

[Knowah]

if before Crimea he had a chance to retire and enjoy the money he has somewhere in this world... with this idiotic move his only way to stay alive is being the boss till he dies because once he step down or he is stepped down by someonelse it will means death penalty for him

He tried retiring when he willingly allowed himself to be replaced as President. People said it was because of terms rules and while technically true nobody would've done anything if he allowed himself more terms. He allegedly wanted to step aside and allow more influences to his deputies and realized he didn't like it.

He enjoys being in power and being the central figure for Russia. The modern Stalin. Being out of power is to be nothing and his influence, even in the shadow as a puppetmaster, isn't the same.

 

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[JuveE46]

why Iran and Afghanistan? These countries have a GDP less than Florida and Maine respectively.

GDP? The turbine headed lunatics heading Iran don't exactly provide those numbers. Iran has 10% of world oil reserves alone. Metal, stone, gas, agriculture,.you name it Iran has it. The fact you even used Afghanistan in the same sentence shows the level of information people have. Iran is nothing like Afghanistan.
Safe to say they aren't broke.

 

[Bjerknes]

Time to put all our pieces on Alaska and see what’s up

Honestly, I wouldn't rule anything out at this point.

There is an insane lunatic invading a country that will never accept him who has 5000 nuclear weapons at his finger tips.

I haven't seen or read any coherent plan as to what the end game is one, two, or 24 months out.

 

[JCK]

Honestly, I wouldn't rule anything out at this point.

There is an insane lunatic invading a country that will never accept him who has 5000 nuclear weapons at his finger tips.

I haven't seen or read any coherent plan as to what the end game is one, two, or 24 months out.

I asked this question earlier. It feels bizarre to be honest. Shit is real and it seems that Ukraine is only the beginning.

 

[JuveE46]

Iranian currency have lost 90% of its value in past 3 years. Iran is under heavy sanctions and and is also a dry country that can’t produce her own food. Iran can offer cheap oil, which Russia already has plenty of.

So what if it lost value compared to the dollar? They still have enough to survive it just means they cant export what they have in exchange for money or goods or services.. it doesnt mean they can't trade with Russia and survive.

 

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@Siamak thoughts on the above Iranian economy discussion?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Finally NATO pussies have decided to wake up and do something

 

[Elvin]

So what if it lost value compared to the dollar? They still have enough to survive it just means they cant export what they have in exchange for money or goods or services.. it doesnt mean they can't trade with Russia and survive.

Dude even N. Korea survives. Is that what peole live for? Just survive? These regimes have to deal with growing unrest and tention within the society.

I said it before, the population's loyalty in authoritarian states is non-existent, and the inner circle's is extremely vulnarable. This is not the case in democratic nations, there no one is waiting for the right moment to spit on their National Leader's ugly mug. Refer to Saddam and Gaddafi.

This applies to my country too. Fear is the only thing keeping these regimes in place.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

 

[Dostoevsky]

What the hell can I do. It's shelling atm. I didn't get to join today, my family is scared, nephews are crying. How can one sleep?

Nah bro, I totally get that. Eventhough I was young, I still remember stuff as I've been through that shit during the '99 when we had over 200 NATO planes flying over with zero help and horrible old military equipment. It lasted for over 80 days and I'll never forget that noise and fear. It's just something horrible.

 

[il brutto]

@Bjerknes

Now Russia threatening Finland and Sweden over possible NATO membership. Russia and Putin needs to be absolutely fucked.

https://www.tbsnews.net/world/finla...ld-spark-russian-response-russia-warns-376246

That's nothing new.

 

[JuveE46]

Dude even N. Korea survives. Is that what peole live for? Just survive? These regimes have to deal with growing unrest and tention within the society.

I said it before, the population's loyalty in authoritarian states is non-existent, and the inner circle's is extremely vulnarable. This is not the case in democratic nations, there no one is waiting for the right moment to spit on their National Leader's ugly mug. Refer to Saddam and Gaddafi.

This applies to my country too. Fear is the only thing keeping these regimes in place.

Loyalty not needed.. less than two years ago they killed people in the streets of Iran in different cities during protest, thousands of them.. For 40 years they are "vulnerable" but still there with power of the bullet.. Yeah the people in the end bare the weight on them but this is how it is..40 years the people are surviving, with no freedom of any type, even music. I don't quite get your argument, of course it's not ideal just to survive but these regimes don't fuck around.

 

[Elvin]

Loyalty not needed.. less than two years ago they killed people in the streets of Iran in different cities during protest, thousands of them.. For 40 years they are "vulnerable" but still there with power of the bullet.. Yeah the people in the end bare the weight on them but this is how it is..40 years the people are surviving, with no freedom of any type, even music. I don't quite get your argument, of course it's not ideal just to survive but these regimes don't fuck around.

I mean wtf kinda ally is that shit-hole gonna be to Russia? A small misstep and they have another uprising and revolution at hand. 40 years of this bullshit just makes the uprising more likely actually, it's bound to explode sooner than later.

 

[Ronn]

So what if it lost value compared to the dollar? They still have enough to survive it just means they cant export what they have in exchange for money or goods or services.. it doesnt mean they can't trade with Russia and survive.

Currency losing value means the price of everything that is imported, which is pretty much everything, will go up accordingly while people on fixed income get crushed. It was reported that 70% of Iranians don’t get enough calories.

 

[Siamak]

@Siamak thoughts on the above Iranian economy discussion?

Everything is getting worse day by day. The cost of living is extremely high, especially buying and renting a house and People can not afford to buy. Sanctions have crippled Iran economy since trump. The effects of sanctions last for years.
I myself can't afford the cost of living here . The cost of food, renting house and English language classes is so high for me that at the end of the month I do not have any save. same goese for majority of people in iran.
Iran's economy is almost destroyed and exports are very low, as matter of fact Iran's GDP ranks last among all countries in the world.

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Iranian currency have lost 90% of its value in past 3 years. Iran is under heavy sanctions and and is also a dry country that can’t produce her own food. Iran can offer cheap oil, which Russia already has plenty of.

The main problem is creating jobs and finding work for most groups. iran's industry is collapsed With the exception of Syria, Iraq and a few other countries, no other countries have trade with Iran.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Everything is getting worse day by day. The cost of living is extremely high, especially buying and renting a house and People can not afford to buy. Sanctions have crippled Iran economy since trump. The effects of sanctions last for years.
I myself can't afford the cost of living here . The cost of food, renting house and English language classes is so high for me that at the end of the month I do not have any save. same goese for majority of people in iran.
Iran's economy is almost destroyed and exports are very low, as matter of fact Iran's GDP ranks last among all countries in the world.

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The main problem is creating jobs and finding work for most groups. iran's industry is collapsed With the exception of Syria, Iraq and a few other countries, no other countries have trade with Iran.

Why they won't stop that shit with uranium?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran

 

[Ronn]

Everything is getting worse day by day. The cost of living is extremely high, especially buying and renting a house and People can not afford to buy. Sanctions have crippled Iran economy since trump. The effects of sanctions last for years.
I myself can't afford the cost of living here . The cost of food, renting house and English language classes is so high for me that at the end of the month I do not have any save. same goese for majority of people in iran.
Iran's economy is almost destroyed and exports are very low, as matter of fact Iran's GDP ranks last among all countries in the world.

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The main problem is creating jobs and finding work for most groups. iran's industry is collapsed With the exception of Syria, Iraq and a few other countries, no other countries have trade with Iran.

He asked about the impact of currency losing value, and I tried to explain in simplest terms. But as you said Iran’s plight is far worse than just inflation. Iran has no access to the international banking and hence international capital.

 

[Siamak]

Why they won't stop that shit with uranium?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iran

No country trades with Iran and there is no strong diplomatic relationship between Iran and the West. With Uranium, it's a tool for gaining military power, and still not that advanced.

 

[Bjerknes]

What the hell can I do. It's shelling atm. I didn't get to join today, my family is scared, nephews are crying. How can one sleep?

Not that it’s much consolation, but it seems like most people on Tuz are pulling for you, as well as most people in the US. I couldn’t imagine what you guys are going through right now.

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I asked this question earlier. It feels bizarre to be honest. Shit is real and it seems that Ukraine is only the beginning.

Ukrainians will never accept being ruled by Russia. Neither will most others in Europe. So do they occupy Ukraine forever? Do they kill everyone? It makes no sense, so I would be worried if I was anywhere in Eastern Europe.

 

[Siamak]

He asked about the impact of currency losing value, and I tried to explain in simplest terms. But as you said Iran’s plight is far worse than just inflation. Iran has no access to the international banking and hence international capital.

We are experiencing rapid economic, goverment wanted the process of developing an independent economic policy separate from the west, but in a wrong way.