Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (146 Viewers)

[Tomice]

independent voters are a big chunk of the electorate. People who voted for Biden because he isn’t Trump may not have the same incentive if Trump is not on the ballot.

Yeah, I'm saying most people will vote to their party and the rest will just vote to the less terrible candidate. most likely the candidates themselves will be polarizing enough that I'm not sure actions of the past government will play a major role in the elections.

Do you think a republican let's say will run with a platform of lifting US sanctions?

 

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[Ronn]

Yeah, I'm saying most people will vote to their party and the rest will just vote to the less terrible candidate. most likely the candidates themselves will be polarizing enough that I'm not sure actions of the past government will play a major role in the elections.

Do you think a republican let's say will run with a platform of lifting US sanctions?

Surely not, but they’ll run on economy and inflation. And there is Congressional election to worry about too. It’s even more important in these polarized times since a small shift will mean victory or defeat for the candidates.

 

[Tomice]

Are you saying US has less leverage than Russia in dealing with Gulf countries? That’s new to me, though I’d be glad to see the reasoning. US has numerous economic ties with said countries.

No, not less by any means. I mean just not enough. Two thing, first, economic ties goes both ways, US need the gulf countries and the OPEC to keep the dollar as the world's leading reserve currency. They are co-dependent.
Second, I think the Guld countries and the Saudis see the US disengage from the middle-east slowly and are afraid they will be left to hang, at the same time Russia only gets more and more involved here. The Russians are filling the void left by the west in the ME for over a decade now.

 

[swag]

Send 'em to the camps!

FEMA buses to FEMA camps, baby!

 

[Ronn]

No, not less by any means. I mean just not enough. Two thing, first, economic ties goes both ways, US need the gulf countries and the OPEC to keep the dollar as the world's leading reserve currency. They are co-dependent.
Second, I think the Guld countries and the Saudis see the US disengage from the middle-east slowly and are afraid they will be left to hang, at the same time Russia only gets more and more involved here. The Russians are filling the void left by the west in the ME for over a decade now.

The thing is US has not disengaged yet, and if the effort against Russia fails it would be one big blow to dollar. That’s what makes this move so audacious. Let’s see how US responds to MBS, but that guy surely has balls. Not sure if it’ll do him any good though.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Time to "find" some WMD in Saudi Arabia?

Imagine bombing near mecca lol, radical Muslims will suicide half of the world

 

[Tomice]

The thing is US has not disengaged yet, and if the effort against Russia fails it would be one big blow to dollar. That’s what makes this move so audacious. Let’s see how US responds to MBS, but that guy surely has balls. Not sure if it’ll do him any good though.

The trend is very clear. They left Syria unilaterally even though they and the Saudis operated there together, they let the Russians and Turks in. Then they almost pull out of the military collaboration with them in Yemen (trump vetoed the senate). They destroyed Iraq and pulled out without leaving any mark, only for the Iranians to fill the void.
Everywhere they go they just end up leaving, not before destroying the country sovereignty, and giving a free pass to any country that want to swoop in. They are just not a dependable ally, unless you are Israel (and even here there are voices that we should limit our dependency)

The west in general is not a dependent ally in this parts. Lebanon was dependent of France and look at them now, from the crown of the middle east to a dump.

Also autocratic countries know they can "trust" other autocratic countries, there is a long term commitments and stability of interests that you just can't have with a democratic ally who is influenced by internal political considerations.

 

[Ronn]

The trend is very clear. They left Syria unilaterally even though they and the Saudis operated there together, they let the Russians and Turks in. Then they almost pull out of the military collaboration with them in Yemen (trump vetoed the senate). They destroyed Iraq and pulled out without leaving any mark, only for the Iranians to fill the void.
Everywhere they go they just end up leaving, not before destroying the country sovereignty, and giving a free pass to any country that want to swoop in. They are just not a dependable ally, unless you are Israel (and even here there are voices that we should limit our dependency)

Also autocratic countries know they can "trust" other autocratic countries, there is a long term commitments and stability of interests that you just can't have with a democratic ally who is influenced by internal political considerations.

Oh fully agreed. of course a Democratic country with a polarized electorate won’t be as dependable. My point is whether this is the right moment to embarrass the US. Biden still has many tools to use against those two that I hope he fully utilizes.

 

[Tomice]

Oh fully agreed. of course a Democratic country with a polarized electorate won’t be as dependable. My point is whether this is the right moment to embarrass the US. Biden still has many tools to use against those two that I hope he fully utilizes.

They have balls I agree

 

[U Picciriddu]

The Chornobyl nuclear power plant is to be connected to standby diesel generators to ensure its objects supplying for 48 hours.

After that, the cooling system of the collection of the spent nuclear fuel will be switched off, which will lead to the radiation spreading - Dmytro Kuleba, The Foreign Minister of Ukraine.

Minister calls on the international community of demand immediately of Russia to put fire off and give the repair brigades an opportunity to fix an electricity supply as soon as possible.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

The Chornobyl nuclear power plant is to be connected to standby diesel generators to ensure its objects supplying for 48 hours.

After that, the cooling system of the collection of the spent nuclear fuel will be switched off, which will lead to the radiation spreading - Dmytro Kuleba, The Foreign Minister of Ukraine.

Minister calls on the international community of demand immediately of Russia to put fire off and give the repair brigades an opportunity to fix an electricity supply as soon as possible.

Situation is not great, not terrible

 

[Cerval]

Those pictures of Macron looking disheartened in multiple poses are too much cringe to handle. Well done

 

[Dostoevsky]

That posing @DAiDEViL we've got ourselves a model to practice.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Those pictures of Macron looking disheartened in multiple poses are too much cringe to handle. Well done

These staged photos...holy hell the cringe.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

These staged photos...holy hell the cringe.

Why, it's already super popular meme here against Putin and Russian propaganda

 

[Kopanja]

Fuckers bombed children hospital in Mariupol. my god, how I hate them

 

[Cerval]

Thats pretty low.

 

[kao_ray]

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Fuckers bombed children hospital in Mariupol. my god, how I hate them

"if we hadn't bombed the children's hospital, NATO soldiers could have been standing there"

 

[ALC]

Terrible, this is fucked

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/world/europe/ukraine-mariupol-hospital-strike.html