Rock and Voll All Nite: The Mafia Strikes the Music Industry (11 Viewers)

[campionesidd]

Alen's game has been very different since the last game, where he was a civilian (BG to be precise)
I'm not too sure about Joker right now, so I'll have to go with Alen.

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Will vote for Joker if Alen turns out to be a civ.

 

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[Alen]

As I said before I just don't think both Alen and Joker are G's. it's got to be one or the other imo, there is an outside chance both aren't but since we don't have anything else to go by today and we can't just ignore those events then I guess one of them needs to be lynched for us to get any kind of answers.

My gut feeling is that Alen was just a C, doing what Alen does, who just ended up saving a G, Joker.

Regarding the three-way, and if I'm right assuming both can't be G's, I think a vote only between them is enough for the G's to expose themselves. Risking another C just to end up in the same situation tomorrow seems pointless to me.

Me being a C who accidentally saved a G is a possibility, but a very slim one. It makes more sense that I'm the G if only one of us is a G. Actually, it's more possible that we're both Gs than only Joker being a G.
If you think logically, it's most probable that we're both Cs.

 

[Tomice]

Alen's game has been very different since the last game, where he was a civilian (BG to be precise)
I'm not too sure about Joker right now, so I'll have to go with Alen.

To be fair you can't really compare his game being the BG and a C. totally different game when you don't fear being whacked

 

[j0ker]

Alen in bold

 

[Tomice]

Me being a C who accidentally saved a G is a possibility, but a very slim one. It makes more sense that I'm the G if only one of us is a G. Actually, it's more possible that we're both Gs than only Joker being a G.
If you think logically, it's most probable that we're both Cs.

I don't disagree at all, you both very may will be as I said but this is where we are at. Just voting someone random tonight will get us nowhere tomorrow

 

[Alen]

I don't disagree at all, you both very may will be as I said but this is where we are at. Just voting someone random tonight will get us nowhere tomorrow

You don't have to vote someone random. Make it a three way between me, Joker and Kyle. In all probability me or Joker will be lynched, not the third guy. It's not about today. It's about looking at the votes after 2 or 3 days, when it's established what role did me/Joker have.
You'll get almost nothing if you make it between me and Joker.

 

[Klin]

Nope, and that's what made me think that he's a C. He accepted death like Janna or Sheik would. He was this close to show us the PM with his role and get autolynched.

Blondu was just another C imo at that point. Thinking egoistically, I put myself in a position where I can defend my ass (from being lynched today), but I avoided a scenario where I can't defend myself (to be whacked. I won't be if I'm a strong lynching target). Eventually you will see that I did exactly this.

Now, some may say that because of this I complicated everything. I didn't really. We'd have killed Joker (a C) and we'd have known nothing at all. This way at least things are moving and we can observe how people react. Especially if we get lucky and involve a G in a three way.

The second paragraph makes sense from your point of view, now that you've created this mess, but it's way beyond egoistic to think you can involve a G in a three way vote tonight, especially since j0ker is looking much more as a C than you. At this stage, I think lynching you may very well give us more to go by than risking another C.

 

[Alen]

The second paragraph makes sense from your point of view, now that you've created this mess, but it's way beyond egoistic to think you can involve a G in a three way vote tonight, especially since j0ker is looking much more as a C than you. At this stage, I think lynching you may very well give us more to go by than risking another C.

Lynching me will tell you that I'm a C.

But nevertheless, once I'm lynched and you all see I'm a normal C, have in mind that what I did yesterday was done for two reasons: 1. To avoid the inevitable (be whacked, as I always am as a C) and 2) to give more clues for later in the game.
I wanted to see who tried to act as if nothing happened, and I saw Kyle.

Now, those civilians who'll be left in the game should play smart and try to see how did everyone act today and yesterday after deadline. Those super confident people are probably Cs. Those who act as if nothing happened and gave me benefit of a doubt... well, a big chunk of them, are Gs.

 

[Maddy]

Oh! For fucks sake.

This is exactly why I told the jailor to jail Alen.

You guys need to understand that Alen is motivated by thrill of manipulation and risk-taking, not simply winning.

He's a gambler with a big ego who always pushes his game to the limit and often beyond.

Please, do not let him snake out.

Send him back to the waterpark from which he came.

Alen

 

[campionesidd]

Current vote count please.

 

[dodo]

I was in jail last night and wasn't around. Just had to read back all the pages why everyone is now targeting Alen and j0ker. I'm not sure what to make of this, but I agree it does look suspicious.

 

[campionesidd]

I was in jail last night and wasn't around. Just had to read back all the pages why everyone is now targeting Alen and j0ker. I'm not sure what to make of this, but I agree it does look suspicious.

Does the jailer know you're C?

 

[Basel93]

Alen

 

[Alen]

Oh! For fucks sake.

This is exactly why I told the jailor to jail Alen.

You guys need to understand that Alen is motivated by thrill of manipulation and risk-taking, not simply winning.

He's a gambler with a big ego who always pushes his game to the limit and often beyond.

Please, do not let him snake out.

Send him back to the waterpark from which he came.

Alen

Shut up.
If I'm a normal C, I'm on borrowed time since day 1. They always try to whack me. The only useful thing I can do as a normal C is to do something unusual and provoke some reaction.

If I am a G indeed, then I played a really stupid game and I deserve to be lynched. It makes no sense at all that I'm a G, however you put it. If I'm a G I either saved a fellow G (why on earth did I start the votes on him?) or I attracted unneeded attention by saving a C.

The Gs know this too well so they'll go with the flow. But if you're civilians, you should all try to use your brain for a second in order to realize that there is no way I can be a G this time.

 

[dodo]

Does the jailer know you're C?

How should I know what the jailer does or does not know.. Ask him/her, not me.

 

[Alen]

You'll achieve zero if you all vote for me. The G votes will be there too and no matter my role, you'll never know who are the Gs.
The worst thing you Cs can do right now is if you all vote for me.

Stop playing day for day. Start thinking long term. If I'm proven C, you'll have no idea what to do tomorrow.

If you're a C and you don't think of yourself as a waste of air, just try to ignore any prejudice you might have and start thinking with your head. Because, if I'm proven C and you just end up voting on me like that, you will be a waste of air and I'll remind you after the game.

 

[Maddy]

 

[j0ker]

So instead of you who should we vote?

At least we suspect you, with the rest we know shit all.

 

[Alen]

So instead of you who should we vote?

At least we suspect you, with the rest we know shit all.

The only reason to suspect me is because I saved you. If you are a C you know very well that I wasn't trying to save a fellow G. It's a silly assumption that I saved you in order to look like a C. Every sane and experienced player would have known that saving you like that means death the very next day. Everyone who made such a last minute chaos was lynched on the next day.
You of all the civilians simply must be sure that I am a C too.

I'm not afraid to be lynched. Those who don't have special roles and aren't Gs, should never be afraid of lynching or whacking. Our role is not important at all.
Now, if you guys are Cs and you're afraid to do something you feel is right just because someone might suspect you, then you shouldn't play this game at all. The point of this game isn't to be sheep, it's to try and help in your team's victory.

As for your question, I'm afraid that you and I are a must. I'd gladly take you off a two way or three way, but they won't. I saved you yesterday, knowing that it might get me killed, so you should accept that role too.
Ideally there should be a third player (I still think it should be Kyle), but if these guys aren't willing to do it, then it should be me and you. We're both civilians so the Gs can spread the votes between the two of us. Still, I have a feeling that the Gs will have a preference which one of us to lynch.

 

[dodo]

You'll achieve zero if you all vote for me. The G votes will be there too and no matter my role, you'll never know who are the Gs.
The worst thing you Cs can do right now is if you all vote for me.

Stop playing day for day. Start thinking long term. If I'm proven C, you'll have no idea what to do tomorrow.

If you're a C and you don't think of yourself as a waste of air, just try to ignore any prejudice you might have and start thinking with your head. Because, if I'm proven C and you just end up voting on me like that, you will be a waste of air and I'll remind you after the game.

I agree with you that if j0ker got killed last night and he is innocent, they would just go after blondu and me (the newbie) as easy targets next. Thing is, how can I know if j0ker is really innocent and you're not just playing all of us.. Although you did make some valid points. Also you named Kyle, and he already voted against me yesterday. I don't really trust people who post few short messages and vote for those who already have a few votes against them, and so far he's one of them. It's easy to stay in the shadows like that.