Robin Van Persie - Forward - Arsenal (8 Viewers)

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Socrates

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Are you claiming that our budget can afford biger salaries than Inter and Milan?
Have you checked any numbers,cause last time i checked they and Milan had a much bigger financial surface than we did.
And the current rosters also speak for themselves. Did anything change so dramatically (In Platini's rules or smth else?)
What is the source linking him to Inter? I haven't seen a single one. Where are you getting this? Is it like someone said above...you getting this from some other forum? LOL!
 

Ironz

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Jan 31, 2010
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Van Persie would be perfect for Juve, ability wise. But when you consider his age, injury and his salary, Cavani will be the safer bet.
But cavani can't wrap in freekicks the way RVP can which could be the difference in winning key matches......and before you mention injury and RVP again, just stop!!! ;)
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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What is the source linking him to Inter? I haven't seen a single one. Where are you getting this? Is it like someone said above...you getting this from some other forum? LOL!
i dont read other forums.
As far as i am concerned, we have never made an official offer, just commented that he is a good player, but after Reporters asked that question.
A few weeks ago, i ve heard articles about Inter wanting to off load Pazzini and one of the mentioned names were RVP, for Milan i ve heard other names.
But i know from previous seasons, that we cant afford a player salary close to 10mil, because in Italy you have to pay pretty much the double after taxes.
Only the Milano based clubs, can efford such salaries, because they have higher incomes, due to bigger stadiums, better sponsor deals, TV rights, CL income etc,
they can afford, Ibra, Sneider and up until recently, we couldnt even afford to pay Flamini's salary, so we are naturally out of the question... for a RVP or Dzeko.
With the new standards imposed even them will have difficulties to give such salaries, but they can make sacrfices to have one such striker.

Inter have signed Palacio, i really doubt that they will bid, unless they sell first and if they bid, it will be for a CF.
If they decide to bid, unlike us, they can afford his salary, so they are a dynamically realistic probability, but we are not, at any case.
So personally, i dont believe that he will leave the EPL for Italy and if he does, his salary indicates that he could only go to one of the two Milano based teams.
Simply because that they are the only ones who can afford his salary not because i heard current rumors for their official interest.
(ex Napoli could be interested, but who cares, they cant afford his salary)

So if i trust the above mentioned comments of his father, Arsenal, no Spain, no other EPL team, the only logical conclusion is a Milano based team or Arsenal.
Milan Def not happening as long as (who plays in the same position/role) Ibra is there, so its either Arsenal or Inter, logic conclusion...
 
Apr 24, 2012
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i dont read other forums.
As far as i am concerned, we have never made an official offer, just commented that he is a good player, but after Reporters asked that question.
A few weeks ago, i ve heard articles about Inter wanting to off load Pazzini and one of the mentioned names were RVP, for Milan i ve heard other names.
But i know from previous seasons, that we can afford a player salary close to 10mil, because in Italy you have to pay pretty much one more of the same in taxes.
Only the Milano based clubs, have higher incomes, due to bigger stadiums, better sponsor deals, TV rights, CL income etc, can afford, Ibra, Sneider and up until recently, we couldnt even afford to pay Flamini's salary, so we are naturally out of the question... for a RVP or Dzeko.

Inter have signed Palacio, i really doubt that they will bid, unless they sell first. But if they eer decide to bid, unlike us, they can afford his salary, so they are a dynamically realistic probability and we are not.
So personally, i dont believe that he will leave the EPL for Italy and if he does, his salary indicates taht he could only go to one of the two Milano based teams. Simply because that they are the only ones who can afford his salary not because i heard current rumors for their official interest.

So if i trust the above mentioned comments of his father, Arsenal, no Spain, noother EPL team, the only logical conclusion is a Milano based team.
Def not happening as long as Ibra is there, so its either Arsenal or Inter, logic conclusion...
Agnelli's have a net worth of 71.9 billion Elkan spent 400 million on an english cricket club and Marotta said he's gonna sign a big name forward this summer. we have the resources and we have the ambition therefore why the HELL would he go to Inter over us or staying at the emirates? and if Inter are so apparently rich then why did they sell eto'o?
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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Old ?!! How old was Nedved when we bought him ?!
Around 27? He also cost us 41m €.. I didn't watch calcio in 2001 but i guess he was "kind of a chance" since he joined us from Lazio and for that much money? I mean.. That was in 2001, the year after we sold Zidane - what 27-year old would you sign for Juventus for 41m € today?

But yes. I do believe he is rather "old" in terms of football years, especially if we are to spend 30m € on him. We're not going to win CL next season just because of RVP and signing a 29-year old will mean it's around 10m € a year for RVP + salaries (6m in salaries+10m/out of the 30 we buy him for = 16m € annually if say he's rubbish in three years, when he's 32. Im not saying he will be but he could be! He is injury prone...?
I don't know.
Im not claiming he isn't a good signing, im just saying that there are other interesting targets then RVP out there. RvP might be the best in europe right now and I would be thrilled to watch him but an alternative is Lewandowski who could potentially stay with us the next 10 years or so and become he best in Europe when we win CL in 5 years time ^^ Lewandowski is a lot different then the other strikers we've bought so far - lets say the criteria must be to have scored at least 20 goals a season..?
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Nedved was almost 30 when we bought him.Same with Thuram.And we broke the bank for both of them and it paid dividends in the end.

RVP when he gets old doesnt have to rely on his pace as he's not that kind of player.Technically gifted with superb first touch just like Alex,creative and has one hell of a left foot.He would still possess these attributes when and once he ages.

He can always be deployed in a second striker role once he gets old as opposed to the CF role he plays currently for Arsenal.
 

athas

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But cavani can't wrap in freekicks the way RVP can which could be the difference in winning key matches......and before you mention injury and RVP again, just stop!!! ;)
:D, i think his injury and age are minor problem, the main is his salary. I read somewhere that he wants 8M a year, that's too much IMO. I can't image he would earn almost double than Buffon. If he accept 5-6M a year, i say go all for it.
 

TheLaz

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Nedved was almost 30 when we bought him.Same with Thuram.And we broke the bank for both of them and it paid dividends in the end.

RVP when he gets old doesnt have to rely on his pace as he's not that kind of player.Technically gifted with superb first touch just like Alex,creative and has one hell of a left foot.He would still possess these attributes when and once he ages.

He can always be deployed in a second striker role once he gets old as opposed to the CF role he plays currently for Arsenal.
Hell no! When you're not top class you're not in for a top team. End of story..

Nedved was 29 when we bought him.
29 years old. 41m €. Do you see my point? And don't start the "he's a legend talk"
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Agnelli's have a net worth of 71.9 billion Elkan spent 400 million on an english cricket club and Marotta said he's gonna sign a big name forward this summer. we have the resources and we have the ambition therefore why the HELL would he go to Inter over us or staying at the emirates?
Our team's management have a certain way of handling our economics, there are some certain parameters and salary cups and other restrictions, discussed and respected by our board.
No one can do what he likes and when he likes, we are a company that respects some certain rules.
Our shareholders have a say, or long term project have a say etc
It is irrelevant if AA can buy him, just to keep him in his living room along with his cat, he cannot put all that cash directly on our account anymore, our company respects some rules, we have never signed a 10mil salary guy, our priority was to tut the expences and adapt to the Platini rules asap.
We are doing well, despite having less income than everybody else. We have hard decisions and sacrifices, like releasing a club legend, who was earning much much less than that ammount.

Football has changed, there are salary limits according to earnings. In England, the common ppl are very ritch, they can afford to pay very high ticket prices and TV rights.
The clubs make insane profits and the state help them, by not imposing insane taxes.
Unfortunately in Italy things are different.
There are specific and techical reasons we cannot compete with EPL clubs on salary terms.
Our club has officially took a stance and admitted this fact many times. It is smth we cannot ignore.

Some washed up players, accept huge salary caps, but not the hottest gun in Europe, not at his most productive age, RPV is exactly the player we cannot afford!
High prolific strikers coming from the EPL are the highest earners in the world off football, the most unrealistic target we can dream off...
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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i dont read other forums.
As far as i am concerned, we have never made an official offer, just commented that he is a good player, but after Reporters asked that question.
A few weeks ago, i ve heard articles about Inter wanting to off load Pazzini and one of the mentioned names were RVP, for Milan i ve heard other names.
But i know from previous seasons, that we cant afford a player salary close to 10mil, because in Italy you have to pay pretty much the double after taxes.
Only the Milano based clubs, can efford such salaries, because they have higher incomes, due to bigger stadiums, better sponsor deals, TV rights, CL income etc,
they can afford, Ibra, Sneider and up until recently, we couldnt even afford to pay Flamini's salary, so we are naturally out of the question... for a RVP or Dzeko.
With the new standards imposed even them will have difficulties to give such salaries, but they can make sacrfices to have one such striker.

Inter have signed Palacio, i really doubt that they will bid, unless they sell first and if they bid, it will be for a CF.
If they decide to bid, unlike us, they can afford his salary, so they are a dynamically realistic probability, but we are not, at any case.
So personally, i dont believe that he will leave the EPL for Italy and if he does, his salary indicates that he could only go to one of the two Milano based teams.
Simply because that they are the only ones who can afford his salary not because i heard current rumors for their official interest.
(ex Napoli could be interested, but who cares, they cant afford his salary)

So if i trust the above mentioned comments of his father, Arsenal, no Spain, no other EPL team, the only logical conclusion is a Milano based team or Arsenal.
Milan Def not happening as long as (who plays in the same position/role) Ibra is there, so its either Arsenal or Inter, logic conclusion...
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: genius! do you realize inter won't be in CL next season??????????
 
Apr 24, 2012
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Our team's management have a certain way of handling our economics, there are some certain parameters and salary cups and other restrictions, discussed and respected by our board.
No one can do what he likes and when he likes, we are a company that respects some certain rules.
Our shareholders have a say, or long term project have a say etc
It is irrelevant if AA can buy him, just to keep him in his living room along with his cat, he cannot put all that cash directly on our account anymore, our company respects some rules, we have never signed a 10mil salary guy, our priority was to tut the expences and adapt to the Platini rules asap.
We are doing well, despite having less income than everybody else. We have hard decisions and sacrifices, like releasing a club legend, who was earning much much less than that ammount.

Football has changed, there are salary limits according to earnings. In England, the common ppl are very ritch, they can afford to pay very high ticket prices and TV rights.
The clubs make insane profits and the state help them, by not imposing insane taxes.
Unfortunately in Italy things are different.
There are specific and techical reasons we cannot compete with EPL clubs on salary terms.
Our club has officially took a stance and admitted this fact many times. It is smth we cannot ignore.

Some washed up players, accept huge salary caps, but not the hottest gun in Europe, not at his most productive age, RPV is exactly the player we cannot afford!
High prolific strikers coming from the EPL are the highest earners in the world off football, the most unrealistic target we can dream off...
Ill put it simply we paid 22.5 million odd for Amauri+ big wages.. we can afford rvp and this was when we didn't have our stadium revenue or the meseum and we have champions league football back.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Hell no! When you're not top class you're not in for a top team. End of story
What are you talking about ?RVP is an excellent passer and once he starts ageing ,his movement,his quickness and the precise timing of his runs to beat the off-side trap might have a slight negative effect in regards to his game.

In that respect it makes perfect sense for him to play behind the striker as he's got the vision.Please dont bring this age BS.ADP was Serie A top scorer at the age of 34 and RVP is in ADP class in my opinion.

You must be extremely spoilt and choosy to not want Van Persie in your team.
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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What are you talking about ?RVP is an excellent passer and once he starts ageing ,his movement,his quickness and the precise timing of his runs to beat the off-side trap might have a slight negative effect in regards to his game.

In that respect it makes perfect sense for him to play behind the striker as he's got the vision.Please dont bring this age BS.ADP was Serie A top scorer at the age of 34 and RVP is in ADP class in my opinion.

You must be extremely spoilt and choosy to not want Van Persie in your team.
All right. In that case I want Rooney, RvP, Ibra and Gomez. Can I please? You don't understand me mate.. Im talking moneywise here
 
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