Richard Dawkins: I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI (2 Viewers)

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
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#62
No, he just circulated an order saying "if child abuse happens, keep it quiet, gag the victims and move the priests somewhere else before they can be prosecuted".

So no, technically he didn't order the abuse, but he did as good as endorse it.
So you can prove that he had full knowledge of the problem while it was happening?
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
#64
Aren't you destroying a life either way.



Is it unethical NOT to abort a down syndrome fetus?
They're not the same thing and you know it. Even the law knows it. Murder sentences have always been longer then rape for that very reason.

And don't even try and bring that shit into this its not even relevent. You don't even know that people with down syndrome endure nearly the same difficulties as a rape victim or a brother, sister, mother, father of a victim of a bloody war.
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
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#65
Whether he is arrested or not the Pope should be removed from his position in light of this. Is that possible? Can the Cardinals un-Popify the Pope?
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
#66
The whole point of this scandel that has kicked off is that he was heavily involved in covering up paedophile priests and there activities
I don't deny anything about the scandal and I don't take the Pope for a completely innocent man. But you can't make comparisons to people who, in a thought out process seek to terrorise and destroy lives. The man is running an organisation and when he saw it being defaced he panicked.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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#67
Whether he is arrested or not the Pope should be removed from his position in light of this. Is that possible? Can the Cardinals un-Popify the Pope?
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/...ns/2010/03/ratzinger_is_the_perfect_pope.html

Ratzinger is the perfect pope

"Should Pope Benedict XVI be held responsible for the escalating scandals over clerical sexual abuse in Europe?"

Yes he should, and it's going to escalate a lot further, as more and more victims break through the guilt of their childhood indoctrination and come forward.

"Should he be investigated for how cases of abuse were handled under his watch as archbishop of Munich or as the Vatican's chief doctrinal enforcer?"

Yes, of course he should. This former head of the Inquisition should be arrested the moment he dares to set foot outside his tinpot fiefdom of the Vatican, and he should be tried in an appropriate civil - not ecclesiastical - court. That's what should happen. Sadly, we all know our faith-befuddled governments will be too craven to do it.

"Should the pope resign?"

No. As the College of Cardinals must have recognized when they elected him, he is perfectly - ideally - qualified to lead the Roman Catholic Church. A leering old villain in a frock, who spent decades conspiring behind closed doors for the position he now holds; a man who believes he is infallible and acts the part; a man whose preaching of scientific falsehood is responsible for the deaths of countless AIDS victims in Africa; a man whose first instinct when his priests are caught with their pants down is to cover up the scandal and damn the young victims to silence: in short, exactly the right man for the job. He should not resign, moreover, because he is perfectly positioned to accelerate the downfall of the evil, corrupt organization whose character he fits like a glove, and of which he is the absolute and historically appropriate monarch.

No, Pope Ratzinger should not resign. He should remain in charge of the whole rotten edifice - the whole profiteering, woman-fearing, guilt-gorging, truth-hating, child-raping institution - while it tumbles, amid a stench of incense and a rain of tourist-kitsch sacred hearts and preposterously crowned virgins, about his ears.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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#68
So you can prove that he had full knowledge of the problem while it was happening?
What is this, deniability? "I don't care how you do it, spook, just as long as it gets done"? He's the head of the organization, it's his job to know. What's more, he was the overseer of this business 20 years ago, when he wrote that order.

If the US bombs New Zealand is it an okay excuse for Obama to say "I didn't know"?
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
#77
any one in particular?
Omar Al-Bashir
The Entire Israeli Cabinet
The Leadership of Hamas
Every member of Al Queda
Donald Rumsfeld
Every Scientologist
Ever Religious Fundementalist
George Bush sr. and jr.
The Russian Oligarchs
Every Rapist
Every Thief
The 90s armed forces of Serbia and Crotia for their Genocides
The Rwadan genociders
The Sudanese genociders
Ulster Unionists
The pIRA

that's all I can think of for now
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
#80
Of course it was. Killing people is such an archaic method od retribution. Putting them in prison for there rest of their lives to allow their crimes to haunt them is a far more approriate method of dealing with such people.

Do you read the daily mail iz?
 

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