Reto Ziegler (5 Viewers)

[CAPITANO]

what a joke of a club we have become

 

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[IrishZebra]

 

[Powis]

No it wasn't. Diego was sold after 1 full season and for 15 mln. It was stupid but not Ziegler stupid.

You know where excatly i see stupidity in Diego seeling? Yeah, you mentioned it already. One full season, good play despite shitty season, passion to wear Juve shirt and etc. And we brought him for 23 millions euros so his seeling for 15 millions is also 8 millions loss for us. Ziegler? He's a player who came from Serie B, mediocre, doesn't fit to Conte and that's mean he isn't worth of Juve. So Diego move is much more stupid than Ziegler when we are talking about quality of players.

 

[Salvo]

I think people are over exaggerating here.

 

[radekas]

Ziegler never played in Serie B, so no he didn't come from there. He played 129 games in Serie A. And yes, Diego move is stupid and I was mad after selling him, but still that kind of moves happen all the time. We also got new players after selling him. Now, getting rid of someone that was signed 2 months ago is something that never happens. Doing it after mercato was closed is something even more rare. Doing it when we have to use Grosso is something beyond stupid. Doing it cause he doesn't fit is just a lame excuse. Grosso or De Ceglie wouldn't fit for anyone but still they will have to play.

This move was stupid and amateurish, nothing can excuse it. I can't believe some people are trying so hard to find anything positive in it.

 

[Fake Melo]

Anyone cares? When he arrived everyone moaned, now everyone bitches.

Seriouuusly, what is your problem?

Grosso will not be playing LB, if DC is injured I think Vidal will be backing up the spot, which is OK so he can rotate a bit with Marchisio.

 

[radekas]

Well I for one, was not moaning. Actually I viewed Ziegler as an upgrade over what we had.

And everyone bitches because, no matter how hard you try, there is 0 reason to do this kind of move at this time.

 

[JCK]

Anyone cares? When he arrived everyone moaned, now everyone bitches.

Seriouuusly, what is your problem?

Grosso will not be playing LB, if DC is injured I think Vidal will be backing up the spot, which is OK so he can rotate a bit with Marchisio.

The problem is that he was sold after a replacement was possible to be purchased, 16 games have to be played with either PDC, Grosso or an out of position Vidal. No, it's not ok for Vidal to play as left back when he was brought to play as a midfielder. And Marchisio, puhrleeeeez.

 

[blondu]

so we really needed that 1 mil? geez...better have an extra player on the spot (and he was the best on that spot) than missing one

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I just wish we sold him outright instead of loaning him.

 

[JCK]

I just wish we sold him outright instead of loaning him.

Wait wait, is it a loan? Because if it is then it makes even less sense, if it ever made any.

 

[RAMI-N]

so we really needed that 1 mil? geez...better have an extra player on the spot (and he was the best on that spot) than missing one

Welcome to the world of nonsense... aka Marotta

 

[radekas]

so we really needed that 1 mil? geez...better have an extra player on the spot (and he was the best on that spot) than missing one

It is 600k actually.

 

[RAVANELLI]

Ziegler never played in Serie B, so no he didn't come from there. He played 129 games in Serie A. And yes, Diego move is stupid and I was mad after selling him, but still that kind of moves happen all the time. We also got new players after selling him. Now, getting rid of someone that was signed 2 months ago is something that never happens. Doing it after mercato was closed is something even more rare. Doing it when we have to use Grosso is something beyond stupid. Doing it cause he doesn't fit is just a lame excuse. Grosso or De Ceglie wouldn't fit for anyone but still they will have to play.

This move was stupid and amateurish, nothing can't excuse it. I can't believe some people are trying so hard to find anything positive in it.

Well said.

 

[Cheesio]

What happened, Is he gone ??

 

[Suns]

Anyone cares? When he arrived everyone moaned, now everyone bitches.

Seriouuusly, what is your problem?

Grosso will not be playing LB, if DC is injured I think Vidal will be backing up the spot, which is OK so he can rotate a bit with Marchisio.

You know exactly why people are mad. We spend the whole summer thinking we're OK at the LB department and when the transfer window closes we realize that Conte didn't want Ziegler and now we're stuck with Grosso and De Ceglie. Stop saying its moaning when people are criticizing stupidity.

 

[.zero]

Wtf

Can someone explain the logic in acquiring him only to loan him out before the season starts?

 

[radekas]

Wtf

Can someone explain the logic in acquiring him only to loan him out before the season starts?

There's no logic in this.

 

[JuveJay]

The only logic is that Conte doesn't want him and obviously thinks De Ceglie and Grosso is enough until January at least.

 

[Red]

Wtf

Can someone explain the logic in acquiring him only to loan him out before the season starts?

It's quite simple.

The deal to sign Ziegler was agreed when Delneri was in charge and he wanted Ziegler.

Conte does not want/rate Ziegler, so there is no point in keeping Ziegler, paying his wages and having him hanging around if he's never going to play.

Not that unusual a situation, it's just that Juve have acted, while most clubs would hang on to the unwanted player for a few months at least.

I don't see the problem with the deal.