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Zé Tahir

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I was searching the net for an explanation as to how names such as "united" came to be part of club names, but I've found nothing. Can anyone explain how and why they add such names?

The simplest explanation that comes to mind is that there are a group of people that are united, but why use that as part of your name?
 

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Bisco

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zee, i came across this on wikepedia and i thought t could be of some help to you. its regarding man utd.


Early years (1878-1945)
Main article: History of Manchester United F.C. (1878-1945)


The club was formed as Newton Heath L&YR F.C. in 1878 as the works team of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway depot at Newton Heath. The club's shirts were green and gold halves. They played on a small, dilapidated field on North Road, near the future site of the Manchester Piccadilly railway station for fifteen years, before moving to Bank Street in the nearby town of Clayton in 1893. The club had entered the Football League the previous year and began to sever its links with the rail depot, becoming an independent company, appointing a club secretary and dropping the "L&YR" from their name to become simply Newton Heath F.C.. Not long afterwards, in 1902, the club neared bankruptcy, with debts of over £2500. At one point, their Bank Street ground was even closed by the bailiffs.[10]

Just before having to be shut down for good, the club received a sizeable investment from J. H. Davies, the managing director of Manchester Breweries. Legend goes that Harry Stafford, the club captain, was showing off his prized St. Bernard dog at a club fund-raiser, when Davies approached him to buy the dog. Stafford declined, but was able to persuade Davies to invest in the club and become club chairman.[11] It was decided at one of the early board meetings that the club required a change of name to reflect the fresh start they had been afforded. Manchester Central and Manchester Celtic were among the names suggested, before Louis Rocca, a young immigrant from Italy, said "Gentlemen, why don't we call ourselves Manchester United?"[12] The name stuck, and Manchester United officially came into existence on 26 April 1902. Davies also decided it would be appropriate to change the club's colours, abandoning the green and gold halves of Newton Heath, and picking red and white to be the colours of Manchester United.

Ernest Mangnall was appointed as club secretary after James West had resigned as manager on 28 September 1902. Mangnall was charged with trying to get the club into the First Division, and fell just short of that target at the first attempt, finishing in 5th in Division Two. Mangnall decided that it was necessary to bring in some fresh faces to the club, and signed players such as Harry Moger in goal, Dick Duckworth at half-back and John Picken up front, but it was another new half-back by the name of Charlie Roberts who made the biggest impact. He cost the club a then-record £750 from Grimsby Town in April 1904, and helped them to a third place finish in the 1903-04 season, just a point short of the second promotion place.

It was not long, however, before the club was at last promoted to the First Division for the first time under their new name, finishing in second place in the 1905-06 Second Division. A season of consolidation followed, with the club finishing in 8th, before they finally won their first league title in 1908. Manchester City had recently been under investigation for paying some of their players a salary over the amount allowed by FA regulations. They were fined £250 and eighteen of their players were banned from playing for them ever again. United were quick to pounce on the situation, picking up Billy Meredith (the Welsh Wizard) and Sandy Turnbull, amongst others. The new boys from across town were ineligible to play until New Year's Day 1907, due to their suspension, so it was left until the 1907-08 season for them to make a proper impact on United's bid for the title. And that they did, getting the campaign off to a storming start, with a 2-1 victory over Sheffield United, beginning a run of ten consecutive victories. Despite a shaky end to the season, United managed to hang on and finished the season nine points ahead of their closest rivals, Aston Villa.

The following season began with United picking up another piece of silverware, the first ever Charity Shield,[13] and ended with another, the club's first FA Cup title, sowing the seeds for what has become a record number of FA Cup titles. Just as they were in the club's first title-winning campaign, Turnbull and Meredith were instrumental in this season, Turnbull scoring the winner in the FA Cup Final. The club had to wait another two years before winning any more silverware, winning the First Division for the second time in the 1910-11 season. In the meantime, United moved to their new ground at Old Trafford. They played their first game there on 19 February 1910 against Liverpool, but lost 4-3 having thrown away a 3-0 lead. They then went trophyless again in the 1911-12 season, which not only proved to be the last with Mangnall in charge (he moved to Manchester City after ten years with United), but also the last time the club won the First Division for 41 years, the longest time they have gone without winning the league in their history.

For the next ten years, the club went into a state of gradual decline before being relegated back down to Division Two in 1922. They were promoted again in 1925, but struggled to get into the top half of the table, and were relegated again in 1931. In the eight years leading up to World War II, the club became somewhat of a yo-yo club, reaching their all-time lowest position of 20th in Division Two in 1934. They were promoted and relegated once again before being promoted in the penultimate season before World War II. They guaranteed their place in the top flight for after the war by finishing in 14th in the 1938-39 season.


the rest of the long story is carried on over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_united
 

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if u r wondering where the name newcastle united came from:

History

In November 1881, the Stanley Cricket Club of south Byker decided to form an association football club, to play during the winter after the cricket season had ended. Just under a year later, in October 1882, they changed their name to Newcastle East End FC to avoid confusion with the cricket club in the town of Stanley, County Durham. Meanwhile, across the city, another cricket club began to take an interest in football and in August 1882, they formed Newcastle West End FC. West End played their early football on their cricket pitch, but later moved to St James' Park. East End turned professional in 1889. West End, however, did not fare so well; in Spring 1892 they approached East End with a view to a takeover, the directors having decided that the club could no longer continue due to financial problems.[4] Ultimately, it was agreed that West End's players and most of its backroom staff would join East End. East End also took over the lease on St. James' Park, which effectively merged the two rival clubs together. By December 1892, they decided to give the club a new name and a new image. At a public meeting, several new names, including Newcastle Rangers[citation needed] and Newcastle City,[5] were suggested, before all agreed on Newcastle United.


the rest of the article has the remaining history of the team:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_united
 

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as for real madrid:

Football was introduced to Madrid by the professors and students of the Institución Libre de Enseñanza who included several Oxbridge graduates.[11] They founded the club Football Sky in 1895, playing on Sunday mornings at Moncloa. This club split in 1900 into two different clubs New Foot-Ball de Madrid and Club Español de Madrid. The president of the latter club was Julián Palacios. The latter club split again in 1902, resulting in the formation of Sociedad Madrid FC on March 6, 1902.[2] The first president was Juan Padrós Rubió, the first secretary was Manuel Mendía and the first treasurer was José de Gorostizaga. Juan Padrós Rubió would be later succeeded by his brother, Carlos Padrós from Spain. Only three years after its foundation, in 1905, Madrid FC won its first major title in the Estadio Chamartín stadium. The team won the first of four consecutive Copa del Rey titles (at that time the only statewide competition). In 1912 it moved to its first ground called Campo de O'Donnell after moving between some minor grounds.[12] In 1920 the club's name was changed to Real Madrid after the King granted the title of Real (Royal) to the club.[13]

rest of article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Madrid
 

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here is sth that might interest u regarding hearts. i am sure bozi can give much more details than me.

Hearts were founded in 1874 and are reputedly named after a popular local dance hall, which in turn took its name from the novel The Heart of Midlothian by Sir Walter Scott. The first Hearts Captain, Tom Purdie, stated that they may have played in 1873. They initially played at The Meadows, Powburn and Powderhall before moving to the Gorgie area in 1881. They moved to their current Tynecastle site in 1886.

The earliest mention of Heart of Midlothian in a sporting context is a report in the Scotsman newspaper from 20 July 1864 of the Scotsman vs Heart of Mid-Lothian at cricket. It is not known if this was the same club who went on to form the football club. [2]

Their badge is based on the Heart of Midlothian mosaic on the Royal Mile.

The world famous Hearts Song was written and performed by Scottish comedian Hector Nicol.
 

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independiente ( argentinian )

In the beginning of the past century, in a Buenos Aires department store, called "A la Ciudad de Londres" ("To the City of London"), a group of employees decided to form a football team and named it "Maipú Banfield". But this formation didn't allow the younger workers to participate. Therefore, the youngsters chose to unite, hiding from their bosses, to find a solution.

On the 4th of August of 1904, this group decided to be "independent" from Maipú Banfield, and created a new club. Therefore, on January 1st of 1905, they officially founded Independiente Football Club, but it wasn't until March 25th where Arístides Langone was named as president, Daniel Bevilacqua as secretary, Juan Artau as sub-secretary, Carlos Degiorgi as sub-treasurer, the other founders were Andrés Ferrier, Víctor Camino and José Hermida


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Atlético_Independiente
 

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werder bremen

Werder Bremen is a German football club playing in Bremen, in the northwest German federal state of the same name. The club was founded in 1899 as FV Werder by a group of sixteen vocational high school students who had won a prize of sports equipment to set them on their way. They took their name from the seldom used regional German word for "river island", describing the riverside field they first played football on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werder_Bremen
 

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Sheffield Wednesday?
The club was a cricket team when it formed in 1820 as The Wednesday Cricket Club (named after the day of the week when they played their matches). A meeting on the evening of Wednesday 4 September 1867 at the Adelphi Hotel established a footballing side to keep the team together and fit during the winter months. They played their first match against the Mechanics on 19 October the same year.[2]

It soon became apparent that football would come to eclipse the cricketing side of the club. On 1 February 1868, Wednesday played their first competitive football match as they entered the Cromwell Cup, a four-team competition for newly formed clubs. They went on to win the cup, beating the Garrick Club 1-0 after extra time in the final at Bramall Lane.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Wednesday
 

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bayer 04 leverkusen:

Bayer 04 Leverkusen Fußball is a German football club based in Leverkusen, North Rhine-Westphalia. It is the most well-known department of TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen, a sports club whose members also participate in athletics, gymnastics, basketball and other sports.


or

On November 27, 1903, Wilhelm Hauschild wrote a letter – signed by 107 of his fellow workers – to his employer, the Friedrich Bayer and Co., seeking the company's support in starting a sports club. The company agreed to support the initiative, and on July 1, 1904, Turn- und Spielverein Bayer 04 Leverkusen was founded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_Leverkusen
 
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    Thanks guys. That makes sense, I was expecting that some of the older clubs to have a legitimate reason to have it in their name; however, some of the more recent clubs seem to just adopt the name for I don't know what reason.

    edit: lol Ahmed, I wasn't asking the reasons behind all teams, just those that have United :D
     

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    arsenal F.C

    Arsenal were founded as Dial Square in 1886 by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, but were renamed Royal Arsenal shortly afterwards. They renamed themselves again to Woolwich Arsenal after turning professional in 1891. The club joined the Football League in 1893, starting out in the Second Division, and won promotion to the First Division in 1904. However, the club's geographic isolation resulted in lower attendances than those of other clubs, which led to the club becoming mired in financial problems and effectively bankrupt by 1910, when they were taken over by Henry Norris.[2] Norris sought to move the club elsewhere, and in 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London; they dropped "Woolwich" from their name the following year.[3] Arsenal only finished in fifth place in 1919, but nevertheless were elected to rejoin the First Division at the expense of local rivals Tottenham Hotspur, by reportedly dubious means.[
     

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    Thanks guys. That makes sense, I was expecting that some of the older clubs to have a legitimate reason to have it in their name; however, some of the more recent clubs seem to just adopt the name for I don't know what reason.

    edit: lol Ahmed, I wasn't asking the reasons behind all teams, just those that have United :D
    u r kidding me!!!! loooooool i guess its cos i am very sleepy now, thats why i probably misunderstood u. any way hope it helped abit.
     
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    Juventus is definately the coolest :tup:

    Real is pretty cool too.

    And I hate clubs named after their cities :yuck:
    Why? I like club names after their cities, but what I don't like are names like "Berlin Tigers". Sounds lame as hell.

    But you're right, Juventus is the coolest name in the world :agree:

    u r kidding me!!!! loooooool i guess its cos i am very sleepy now, thats why i probably misunderstood u. any way hope it helped abit.
    It did man, cheers :thumbs:
     

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