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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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What do you mean nothing happened to him? I'm fairly confident that Sissoko won't die on the pitch because of the fasting. What I am worried about is that his performance obviously drops. To perform at any level of football you need to drink and eat well. Performing at the highest level of football while fasting is simply insane. It might be a cruel world, but IMO Sissoko has to choose: either he follows his religion and is benched or he acts like a professional and takes proper care of his body.



You're being fooled by Ze. It's not about potential risks. It's about his performance. Which will drop. A lot of you guys might be muslim, but I think science is pretty solid on this one.
Have to agree with Andries here. This is the most rational, and professional, opinion in this matter.
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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GordoDeCentral

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That's not even close to being the same thing. It's not even about possible health risks here. Sissoko's performance will drop if he doesn't drink. It just will, whether he's adapted to it or not, he won't perform as well as he could.
it has everything to do with it. I thought you d get it without me having to explain. And please stop talking with certainty as we both know there no way of knowing.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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professional?? :lol: he's a professional faster/athlete?
Come on, you think it's professional to harm your performance while being paid to be in top notch condition for a team effort? Say what you will, but Sissoko played a bad game yesterday. People used the fact that he was "fasting" as an excuse. If this is true, I'm sorry, but that's not professional behavior with all due respect. If he has to fast in the afternoon due to his religious beliefs, that's fine, but make sure the manager knows it.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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it has everything to do with it. I thought you d get it without me having to explain. And please stop talking with certainty as we both know there no way of knowing.
There isn't a single scientific article out there to counter my theory. But have it your way: in the end, everything is uncertain. I mean, I could shoot myself in the head and survive. It's a possibility. It's just really unlikely.

The conditions and requirements of your monks are so different than a game of football, that there can simply be no comparison.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Seriously Altair. You think a player could honestly play at his top level without eating properly?
It's strange. Apparently it has no physical impact whatsoever, yet I always meet muslims who are feeling a bit weak in the legs in the afternoon. Their performance for our team is always quite poor. They seem to struggle with the fact they can't drink. And if it really didn't have any impact, then what's the point? Why would you fast? I mean, you don't feel a thing?
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Come on, you think it's professional to harm your performance while being paid to be in top notch condition for a team effort? Say what you will, but Sissoko played a bad game yesterday. People used the fact that he was "fasting" as an excuse. If this is true, I'm sorry, but that's not professional behavior with all due respect. If he has to fast in the afternoon due to his religious beliefs, that's fine, but make sure the manager knows it.
you might be right Andy, but it's all a matter of opinion and if anything scientific research would lean towards the opposite view: genetic predisposition and such. and maybe his show of strength of will translates into the field as well. I personally didnt see the game but if fasting does really affect his performance i trust him to make the right decision for the him and the team.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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you might be right Andy, but it's all a matter of opinion and if anything scientific research would lean towards the opposite view: genetic predisposition and such. and maybe his show of strength of will translates into the field as well. I personally didnt see the game but if fasting does really affect his performance i trust him to make the right decision for the him and the team.
Oh come on. It does affect his performance. And it certainly makes him more prone to injury. Scientific research does not lean towards the opposite view, not one bit to be frank.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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a player yes, any player probably not; even though the case here is not about eating properly you only fast from dawn to sunset
So how has he eaten properly when playing a game at three? And the discussion doesn't stop here. Even if his performance would magically be the same, why is he taking a risk?
 

Zaim

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Dec 1, 2007
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He shouldn't fast at all. But I guess it's a good thing he didn't fast right before the game.
He shouldn't fast at all? Let the man do what he feels is right. Who are you to judge him? You might have a different opinion, but in the end it's his decision and his belief. For many people there's nothing more important then religion. You might think it's dumb and not logical, but that's the way it is.
 
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He shouldn't fast at all? Let the man do what he feels is right. Who are you to judge him? You might have a different opinion, but in the end it's his decision and his belief. For many people there's nothing more important then religion. You might think it's dumb and not logical, but that's the way it is.
that doesnt stop people from pointing out their irrationality
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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you might be right Andy, but it's all a matter of opinion and if anything scientific research would lean towards the opposite view: genetic predisposition and such. and maybe his show of strength of will translates into the field as well. I personally didnt see the game but if fasting does really affect his performance i trust him to make the right decision for the him and the team.
And that's what it all comes down to.


After years and years of fasting a person comes to learn his or her limits. I used to fast when I played football but I won't lift weights while I'm fasting, simply because I know I can withstand the thirst of the former but not the latter. Strange as that may sound, that's just how it is for me.

Sissoko might be able to play football while he's fasting because he's done it from time he was kicking it with his boys in Mali, who knows. We can't say anything unless he himself or the Juventus medical staff find/admit he has been performing bad due to fasting.
 

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