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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Don't get me wrong. I like the way Spain plays these days. They are the best European team by far. I just don't see them succeeding in Italy.
I agree. Somehow i can't see Xavi making it in a tough league like the Serie A.

Look at my sig, C.Zanetti >>>> Xavi. If Zanetti was in the Liga he would make 40 assists a season.


We need more people like you in this forum :tup:
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Blog: Thanks but no thanks

Scott Fleming doesn’t believe Rafa Benitez is the right man to resurrect the fortunes of Juventus
As the most shambolic season in their history grinds to a close, it’s imperative that Juventus make the right choice of Coach to take over next term.

Unfortunately bad decisions have been the Bianconeri administration’s speciality post-Calciopoli. The current favourite is Rafa Benitez, and according to reports a deal is only a few details away from being sealed.

On the face of it it’s not the worst appointment. In 2002 Benitez took Valencia to their first La Liga title in 31 years, and followed it with a La Liga and UEFA Cup double two seasons later.

Then of course there’s the unforgettable 2005 Champions League Final against Milan, when he inspired a pretty poor Liverpool side containing the likes of Djimi Traore and Milan Baros to the most sensational of comebacks.

Nonetheless, were I a Juventino, I’d have deep reservations about crowning King Rafa as the club’s saviour.

First of all there’s his demeanour. He can be petty, immature and a world-class whiner. Just as Liverpool’s campaign has spiralled out of control this term, Benitez’s paranoid rants have done likewise. He seems to live in a bizarre world of denial.

Then again personality isn’t paramount when it comes to the management game. After all, few of us like Jose Mourinho, but we’d have him manage our club in a second. My doubts are based on more than peculiar Press conferences though.

Five years have passed since that famous night in Istanbul, and yet the 2006 FA Cup is the only addition Benitez has made to the LFC trophy cabinet during that time. That’s despite significant investment in the first team.

Benitez has made in excess of 40 signings since arriving on Merseyside and it’s his transfer record that is the greatest cause for concern. Jermaine Pennant, David N’Gog, Andriy Voronin, Andrea Dossena, Lucas, Robbie Keane – the list of flops the Spaniard has signed is endless. Seemingly unaware of his own incompetence in this regard, Benitez has caused internal disputes at Valencia and Liverpool by insisting he has complete control over transfers.

Just imagine if the same thing happened in Turin. Juve would be caught between a rock and a hard place, forced to choose between Benitez and Alessio Secco, two men proven to be about as useful as a chocolate teapot on the transfer market.

Juve could do worse than Benitez, and considering the Board’s record they just might. However, I maintain that his hiring would be a gamble, especially if Cesare Prandelli wants the job.

source: football italia
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Benitez wants six staff
Thursday 22 April, 2010
Juventus have started work on hiring staff recommended by Rafael Benitez, according to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

The Spanish tactician is their No 1 choice to replace interim appointment Alberto Zaccheroni this summer.

Juventus reportedly held a conference call with his agent on Monday night in which they discussed a timetable for a decision.

Several sources within the Italian media are certain that there are only a few small details separating Juventus from agreeing a deal with Benitez.

La Gazzetta understands that Benitez has agreed in principle to sign a contract worth €4.5m a season and that he has accepted to reduce his staff from 12 to six people.

Juventus have been given a list of their names and they are now tasked with convincing them to join the project.

They include West Ham Fitness Coach Antonio Pintus, Benitez's current assistant Mauricio Pellegrino, his chief scout Eduardo Macia, his existing Fitness Coach Paco De Miguel who previously worked for Atletico Madrid and has a good relationship with Juventus target Fernando Torres.

Benitez has also stipulated that Juventus hire Amedeo Carboni as director of sport. Rafa worked with Carboni at Valencia and has great faith in him.

The final appointment would be Mauro Pederzoli, who now works for Milan after being a scout at Liverpool. He was also once director of sport at Torino.

spurce: football italia
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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But Spanish players always fail in the Serie A.
Finally! Somebody understands.
So, Benitez and the Spaniards aren't Juve Material?
And Juve need to focus on being as Italian a club as possible with lots of Italian players, because Italian players are better?
No, this generation is full of shit, except Chiellini. But we need foreigners who traditionally succeed in Italy. Argentinians are best.
Only 2/3. :(
 

di_vladi

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Jul 11, 2006
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I agree. Somehow i can't see Xavi making it in a tough league like the Serie A.

Look at my sig, C.Zanetti >>>> Xavi. If Zanetti was in the Liga he would make 40 assists a season.


We need more people like you in this forum :tup:
Thnx. Funny thing is, instead of investing tens of millions in DMCs we could have kept the Zanetti-Marchisio pair, which to this date is the best..
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Yup. Lol can you imagine if Marchisio was playing in Barcelona in that mickey mouse league, nobody would be talking about Iniesta or Xavi then huh?
 

di_vladi

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Jul 11, 2006
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Yup. Lol can you imagine if Marchisio was playing in Barcelona in that mickey mouse league, nobody would be talking about Iniesta or Xavi then huh?
I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that Spaniards should stay in Spain, Italians should stay in Italy. They play best at home.
 

Fred

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I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that Spaniards should stay in Spain, Italians should stay in Italy. They play best at home.
Why not??!! Really come on man, in what way are Xavi and Iniesta better than Marchisio or C.Zanetti(when at his best)??
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Would be better than Busquets.

Buffon

D.Alves-Pique-Chiellini-Puyol

Xavi

Marchisio-Iniesta

Messi-Camel-Giovinco​

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Well not really. because out of those 3 midfielders, Busquets is the only one who can play the holding midfielder role. Xavi definitely can't play that deep.
 

di_vladi

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Jul 11, 2006
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Why not??!! Really come on man, in what way are Xavi and Iniesta better than Marchisio or C.Zanetti(when at his best)??
I think Xavi will do better in Spain then either of those but not in Italy. I remember him when we played Barcelona in 2003 and he wasn't a superstar then, but I still thought he was pretty good. No wonder he scored =]

Iniesta, I dont really like. If you remember how he first started, he was pretty bad. I don't see how Giovinco is worse than him. The problem is Barca always give their youngsters a chance and they improve.
 

Suns

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Bayern Munchen play 4-4-2 as it should be played. Two amazing wingers at each flank, two strikers up front who can run all day and track back, and two central midfielders who work really hard defensively but can also play offensively if needed. If we're going to play the Italian way of 4-4-2 where the wingers need to be better defensively than offensively then thanks but no thanks.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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swap positions with Marchisio then.
I think that would be a waste of Marchisio's talent, don't you agree?

I mean being played in such a defensive position.

I think Xavi will do better in Spain then either of those but not in Italy. I remember him when we played Barcelona in 2003 and he wasn't a superstar then, but I still thought he was pretty good. No wonder he scored =]

Iniesta, I dont really like. If you remember how he first started, he was pretty bad. I don't see how Giovinco is worse than him. The problem is Barca always give their youngsters a chance and they improve.

Thats what i was saying. C.Zanetti in Italy is better than both Iniesta and Xavi, no?
 
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