Qatar's bid for hosting WC 2022 (2 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

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source: motherjones.com

That really is something else, absolutely disgusting. Even the Chinese only managed to kill 6 people, and they were trying really hard to.

 

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[ALC]

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[X Æ A-12]

That really is something else, absolutely disgusting. Even the Chinese only managed to kill 6 people, and they were trying really hard to.

I guess strenuous physical activity is really dangerous in a climate like that. Good luck to all the players participating.

 

[Zacheryah]

For me the fact alone that its not a suitable climate to play in, is enough.


Wich brazil was allready borderlining. In south korea everyone had sortha the same weather
In brazil you had easy going climate, and the horror of the rainforrest

In qatar, no one wants to play football in that, and i can see players collapsing on the field

 

[swag]

For me the fact alone that its not a suitable climate to play in, is enough.


Wich brazil was allready borderlining. In south korea everyone had sortha the same weather
In brazil you had easy going climate, and the horror of the rainforrest

In qatar, no one wants to play football in that, and i can see players collapsing on the field

Without exceptions, though, this smacks of regionalism. For example, how FIFA once essentially declared that Ecuador, Bolivia, etc. could not host any international matches because the altitude was too high.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_football_controversy

 

[Seven]

Without exceptions, though, this smacks of regionalism. For example, how FIFA once essentially declared that Ecuador, Bolivia, etc. could not host any international matches because the altitude was too high.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_football_controversy

That was a completely unfair advantage though. A little bit of rain or heat can favour a certain team. Altitude can prevent an opposing team from playing altogether.

 

[swag]

That was a completely unfair advantage though. A little bit of rain or heat can favour a certain team. Altitude can prevent an opposing team from playing altogether.

Home field advantage. It's not Bolivia's fault that they live in a place where the rest of the world feels is inhospitable.

 

[Seven]

Home field advantage. It's not Bolivia's fault that they live in a place where the rest of the world feels is inhospitable.

That way Nepal could field a team of sherpas and play at 7,000 metres. I wonder how Germany would perform against them.

 

[swag]

That way Nepal could field a team of sherpas and play at 7,000 metres. I wonder how Germany would perform against them.

But that would be worthy. If you are a world sport, who are you to ban portions of the world from play where humanity already lives, breathes, works, and dies?

If your players aren't conditioned to play there, either forfeit or play the players on your team that can hack it.

Otherwise we should be holding every football match in a covered dome with 22-degree air conditioned comfort and 67% humidity at 100m above sea level. That's absurd.

 

[Seven]

But that would be worthy. If you are a world sport, who are you to ban portions of the world from play where humanity already lives, breathes, works, and dies?

If your players aren't conditioned to play there, either forfeit or play the players on your team that can hack it.

Otherwise we should be holding every football match in a covered dome with 22-degree air conditioned comfort and 67% humidity at 100m above sea level. That's absurd.

No. Absurd is wanting to play football in the most extreme places. It was developed to be played on grassy fields. Sure, it's a global sport now. But that doesn't mean we have to play it in the desert, on mountains and at sea.

There are wide ranges within which it can be played though.

 

[Ocelot]

For me the fact alone that its not a suitable climate to play in, is enough.


Wich brazil was allready borderlining. In south korea everyone had sortha the same weather
In brazil you had easy going climate, and the horror of the rainforrest

In qatar, no one wants to play football in that, and i can see players collapsing on the field

Yeah, I'm with Fred here. The conditions are pretty decent in November actually, so that argument is only partly effective.

There are a few much more important reasons as to why Qatar shouldn't have been given the WC though.

 

[swag]

No. Absurd is wanting to play football in the most extreme places. It was developed to be played on grassy fields. Sure, it's a global sport now. But that doesn't mean we have to play it in the desert, on mountains and at sea.

There are wide ranges within which it can be played though.

Many Brazilians play it on asphalt.

 

[Seven]

Many Brazilians play it on asphalt.

Yes. The World Cup should not be organized on asphalt though.

 

[Raz]

Many Brazilians play it on asphalt.

So... You suggesting they host one on asphalt too someday?

You have to agree that in these kind of cases there should be a common sense at play too?

 

[swag]

My point is that how a local footballing culture enjoys the sport doesn't necessarily dictate how a World Cup is hosted. Andries was making the point that it should be played as originally designed, on grassy fields. But good luck finding those in Africa, for instance.

If nations can put a pitch in the desert, on a mountain, or on islands near the sea where they can play the game, there's no reason to be grassholes about it.

Golf would have never left Scotland if that was the criteria.

 

[Raz]

It should not be played on mount everest or on the sea though too. There is a middle ground in this argument. The thing is that Qatar is unnacceptable on many levels. And his argument that it offered money and nothing else and that's why they won it is true. Qatar WC is a terrible example and big fuck you to everybody.

And what is worse that they are not even trying to conceal stuff - won "best bid" for summer WC, just change to Winter, what the hell is that? This is not even remotely fair on sooo many levels.

 

[swag]

You play in November in Qatar and it's no big deal. To presume the whole world has to revolve around the seasons of the northern hemisphere is completely ethnocentric. You're either a World Cup or a Half a World Cup.

And I don't know of any sherpas playing atop Everest or football leagues under the water.

Hate the Qatari bid because of money and influence. But arguments about weather during the northern hemisphere summer months or a "history of footballing culture" are red herrings.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You play in November in Qatar and it's no big deal. To presume the whole world has to revolve around the seasons of the northern hemisphere is completely ethnocentric. You're either a World Cup or a Half a World Cup.

And I don't know of any sherpas playing atop Everest or football leagues under the water.

Hate the Qatari bid because of money and influence. But arguments about weather during the northern hemisphere summer months or a "history of footballing culture" are red herrings.

Doesn't the fact that their bid was accepted based on the WC being played in the summer, for it to then be changed to the winter, spell corruption to you?

 

[lgorTudor]

Hate the Qatari bid because of money and influence.
But arguments about weather during the northern hemisphere summer months or a "history of footballing culture" are red herrings.

You hate the effect but you're okay with the cause.

Qatari bid was all money because the country can't bring anything else to the table.
Qatari bid was all money because their footballing culture is made of basement dwelling EPL bandwagoners. Qatar could not include a clip of 80.000 ppl attending a league game in their application.
Qatari bid was all money because FIFA would never agree hosting a World Cup in that climate otherwise. Qatar could not include a clip of footballers playing a game at 45°C.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Doesn't the fact that their bid was accepted based on the WC being played in the summer, for it to then be changed to the winter, spell corruption to you?

That's one of my main gripes. Every single bidding nation put forward their claim under the proviso that it would be a World Cup tournament in June (like almost every other WC ever held)...and now Fifa conveniently changed their rules to suit the Qatar bid. The corruption is so blatant that it's almost laughable.