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X Æ A-12

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My country no, we're a neutral country, that's why your country drew up invasion plans for us :D

Russia would have raped Hitler, end of.
And you think you would have been safe as a neutral country for how long?

And no Russia would not have raped Hitler, they would have been decimated if Hitler didn't have to fight the U.S. in Western Europe at the same time.
 

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Kyle, you need to get off the dope. Noone, and I mean noone, ever does anything out of kindness. People do, states do not. The US sensed an opportunity and they took it. I'm sure they told you it was all an act of kindness. You shouldn't be so quick to swallow propaganda.
What the hell are you talking about? Where did I say anything about kindness? Of course we did it out of opportunity but our motives have nothing to do with what I am saying
 

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And you think you would have been safe as a neutral country for how long?

And no Russia would not have raped Hitler, they would have been decimated if Hitler didn't have to fight the U.S. in Western Europe at the same time.
Switerzerland did alright no? Are you actually advocating an invasion of a neutral state by your country?

You underestimate the sheer ammount of raw power that the Steamroller possesed, besides hitler couldn't get the caspians, he had no autarky, fat lot of good blitzkrieg does without petrol

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Word, more than agree, but what about the Japs?
They were always going to expand in the pacific, I can't really count them if we are discounting the US
 

Snoop

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Kyle, you need to get off the dope. Noone, and I mean noone, ever does anything out of kindness. People do, states do not. The US sensed an opportunity and they took it. I'm sure they told you it was all an act of kindness. You shouldn't be so quick to swallow propaganda.
Are you saying they didn't go to Iraq to bring democracy there? :p
 
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And you think you would have been safe as a neutral country for how long?

And no Russia would not have raped Hitler, they would have been decimated if Hitler didn't have to fight the U.S. in Western Europe at the same time.
Wrong, and that's all I'm going to say.

You underestimate the Russian winter and the demoralizing effect it had on the Germans.
 

IrishZebra

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ßüякε;2228366 said:
Wrong, and that's all I'm going to say.

You underestimate the Russian winter and the demoralizing effect it had on the Germans.
And the failure to secure the caspians oilfields and Russia resources.
 
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And the failure to secure the caspians oilfields and Russia resources.
Not only that, the Russians allowed the Germans to walk into cities so they just picked up T-72 producing plants and moved them behind the Urals outside the range of German bombers. Those, munitions factories, et cetera, et cetera...

The Russians would never have let Stalingrad or Leningrad fall either, as they killed 20% of their own troops in the battle for Stalingrad.

All of this, and it may have all been different if Hitler started the war a month later.
 

X Æ A-12

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Switerzerland did alright no? Are you actually advocating an invasion of a neutral state by your country?
Are you mental? Were did I say that?
You underestimate the sheer ammount of raw power that the Steamroller

Are you saying they didn't go to Iraq to bring democracy there? :p
Well they have elections there now right? No, I'm kidding that is a complete mess
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Wrong, and that's all I'm going to say.

You underestimate the Russian winter and the demoralizing effect it had on the Germans.
Yes I know it ended Germany's advance into Russia. But are you saying that you think Russia would have been able to push west and take Berlin if the Nazi's weren't preoccupied with the U.S.?
 
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Yes I know it ended Germany's advance into Russia. But are you saying that you think Russia would have been able to push west and take Berlin if the Nazi's weren't preoccupied with the U.S.?
They beat us to Berlin...

The only thing we really added in the European theater was our Army Air Corps. Our bomber groups outnumbered anything the Germans had, and we could build a fuckload of them. That and we had the second best fighter of the war.
 

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I point our you had invasion plans, you respond asking how long we'd have last neutral anyway...seems like a veiled advocation to me.
I wasn't saying Ireland would attack Germany, I meant Germany would occupy them after taking Britian. And so what if Switzerland was safe during the war, Hitler had to focus his efforts on countries that were fighting him, but if he had neutralized those threats it doesn't seem likely he would have just ignored the small neutral countries
 

IrishZebra

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I wasn't saying Ireland would attack Germany, I meant Germany would occupy them after taking Britian. And so what if Switzerland was safe during the war, Hitler had to focus his efforts on countries that were fighting him, but if he had neutralized those threats it doesn't seem likely he would have just ignored the small neutral countries
we'll never know.
 
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