Premier League 2022-23 (30 Viewers)
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They have players. But the collective doesn't function as a cohesive unit and the collective mentality is toxic and defeatist.
They need an overhaul not because of the individual talents that they have, they need a shift in team culture and mentality. The group dynamics are rotten to the core and so changing 8 players or so in one swoop (even if they're individually less talented) allows them to hit the reset button and start building the team culture from scratch. When Ragnick said they need 7 or 8 or even 10 players he wasn't talking about a lack of individual talent. He was talking about changing the face and dynamics of the group.
It's no coincidence that almost every good player they have does much better with the NT or before they joined United. One or two players may not be enough to change the group dynamics even if their names are Ronaldo and Varane, they need an overhaul.
They need an overhaul not because of the individual talents that they have, they need a shift in team culture and mentality. The group dynamics are rotten to the core and so changing 8 players or so in one swoop (even if they're individually less talented) allows them to hit the reset button and start building the team culture from scratch. When Ragnick said they need 7 or 8 or even 10 players he wasn't talking about a lack of individual talent. He was talking about changing the face and dynamics of the group.
It's no coincidence that almost every good player they have does much better with the NT or before they joined United. One or two players may not be enough to change the group dynamics even if their names are Ronaldo and Varane, they need an overhaul.
Just like many others… but at least most of them have the decency to stay in a weaker league with less competition or at mid table clubs that can afford to play entertaining without the pressure of the results.
Watch him make the impossible possible by setting a new century long record by losing the first 3 opening games because coming next is Liverpool.
Watch him make the impossible possible by setting a new century long record by losing the first 3 opening games because coming next is Liverpool.
Two matches. Yippie.
Interesting take on how Mourinho and Ibra salvaged the last bits of self-respect out of that dying club though...
https://backpagefootball.com/zlatan...orgotten-success-at-manchester-united/131828/
Interesting take on how Mourinho and Ibra salvaged the last bits of self-respect out of that dying club though...
https://backpagefootball.com/zlatan...orgotten-success-at-manchester-united/131828/
I love EtH and what he did at Ajax, but lets be honest over: you can't expect any Eredivisie coach or player to come over to MU and The Prem and be an instant succes. The football we play over here compared to the high intensity pressing game in England is almost a totally different sport. Teams like Ajax were hardly ever pressed by any opponent in the league. The Prem has also has never been as competitive as it is right now. The entire top 6-7 teams are packed with stars. Even the mid table table like Leicester are packed with quality. Teams like Brentford, Aston Villa and Southampton would probably challenge for the title in Serie A.
Was mainly agreeing with you untill the last part, that’s like a major exaggeration, maybe they would be challenging for the european spots in Serie A which is not the case in the Premier League but still, far from being potential title contenders, they just don’t have neither the mentality or personnel for it, nor do they play this broken ManUTD every week, but i agree overall that mid table clubs in Italy are much weaker in comparison and in the end it all comes down to the finances, which they wouldn’t benefit from if they were playing in any other league.
