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I wasn’t a big fan because his last season at Dortmund was a disaster and his first 2 years at Liverpool were underwhelming.
This. pretending like it wasnt understandable to doubt klopp a few years back is just hindsight.

it took him years (and numerous windows where he got players he wanted) to get things right at liverpool. if he were juve coach he wouldve been sacked before ever reaching a CL final
 

Nedved96

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Sep 1, 2017
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it took him years (and numerous windows where he got players he wanted) to get things right at liverpool. if he were juve coach he wouldve been sacked before ever reaching a CL final
The thing is, Liverpool was 10th in the table when Klopp took over, they were essentially the English Milan. He got them back in the Champions League in his first full season there.

Liverpool have been consistently improving since Klopp got there. It took them so long to reach the top because they were so very far away in 2016.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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This. pretending like it wasnt understandable to doubt klopp a few years back is just hindsight.

it took him years (and numerous windows where he got players he wanted) to get things right at liverpool. if he were juve coach he wouldve been sacked before ever reaching a CL final
making two finals in the first season definitely helped though
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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no idea why anyone can dislike liverpool. their football is good, and their players are nice.

inb4: "bUt I HaTE tHE FAns"

which is insane. every club has unbearable fans. this forum alone i can name 10 people alone that would make me hate juve if i wasn't a fan already
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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no idea why anyone can dislike liverpool. their football is good, and their players are nice.

inb4: "bUt I HaTE tHE FAns"

which is insane. every club has unbearable fans. this forum alone i can name 10 people alone that would make me hate juve if i wasn't a fan already
umm Heisel?

We have every right to dislike them at least. If anything they are one of our all-time European rivals.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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did you family members die in heysel? no? you can't even get the spelling right bro, who you kidding with your fake outrage. you only think you hate cuz thats what you read and you spew same garbage

now, say there is this new liverpool fan who JUST became a fan cuz he saw a match and liked Sadio Mane and never ever wtached a football match before....you are telling me, you gonna dislike him because HURRR HEYSEL HAPPENED.

no wonder the world is shit. millenials following in baby boomers footsteps with their hate and prejudices.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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did you family members die in heysel? no? you can't even get the spelling right bro, who you kidding with your fake outrage. you only think you hate cuz thats what you read and you spew same garbage

now, say there is this new liverpool fan who JUST became a fan cuz he saw a match and liked Sadio Mane and never ever wtached a football match before....you are telling me, you gonna dislike him because HURRR HEYSEL HAPPENED.

no wonder the world is shit. millenials following in baby boomers footsteps with their hate and prejudices.
People are free to feel whatever they want bro.

I love to hate Milano trannies, don't deny me that... and I prefer seeing Liverpool suck instead of dominate like they're doing now. Hating a rival football club is better than hating other races or nations, let people have it :D
 

Wittl

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People are free to feel whatever they want bro.

I love to hate Milano trannies, don't deny me that... and I prefer seeing Liverpool suck instead of dominate like they're doing now. Hating a rival football club is better than hating other races or nations, let people have it :D
Then stop despise transsexual people by naming them in the same breath like Milan clubs. Thanks.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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did you family members die in heysel? no? you can't even get the spelling right bro, who you kidding with your fake outrage. you only think you hate cuz thats what you read and you spew same garbage

now, say there is this new liverpool fan who JUST became a fan cuz he saw a match and liked Sadio Mane and never ever wtached a football match before....you are telling me, you gonna dislike him because HURRR HEYSEL HAPPENED.

no wonder the world is shit. millenials following in baby boomers footsteps with their hate and prejudices.
You hate who you want to. I’ll keep hating Liverpool.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I dislike them (not hate) because of personal experiences with them and their fans. Probably one of the few on here with experience of actual scouse Liverpool fans. And yes of course it's a minority, but some of them are awful. There is also a general victim complex that goes past things like Heysel or Hillsborough and outside of football even. And then there are the ones who go that step further and think Liverpool is something different and special because it's "not like the rest of the country", they think they are not even English. As I said before, they are basically a very successful Napoli of England.

I mean, my brother in law is a Liverpool fan, like many not from there who watched the top sides of the 80s, but I don't consider him a Liverpool fan like them, they are different. Passion for the club and city is always admirable, but it often goes into the realms of rank delusion, this weird insular mentality. That's what happens when you create this kind of mythology around the club that is essentially built on nothing.

That said, I dislike Geordie Toon fans for the same reason, and that's a club who has never won anything lol.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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I dislike them (not hate) because of personal experiences with them and their fans. Probably one of the few on here with experience of actual scouse Liverpool fans. And yes of course it's a minority, but some of them are awful. There is also a general victim complex that goes past things like Heysel or Hillsborough and outside of football even. And then there are the ones who go that step further and think Liverpool is something different and special because it's "not like the rest of the country", they think they are not even English. As I said before, they are basically a very successful Napoli of England.

I mean, my brother in law is a Liverpool fan, like many not from there who watched the top sides of the 80s, but I don't consider him a Liverpool fan like them, they are different. Passion for the club and city is always admirable, but it often goes into the realms of rank delusion, this weird insular mentality. That's what happens when you create this kind of mythology around the club that is essentially built on nothing.

That said, I dislike Geordie Toon fans for the same reason, and that's a club who has never won anything lol.
You nailed it. Napoli of England is the perfect description really. From the Scouse/Neapolitan not English/Italian, to the victim mentality to the grimy crime-ridden cities. Urchins and Scugnizzi.

There’s no wonder why I hate both of those clubs so much.
 
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