Klopp is an incredible coach. This Liverpool team is nothing special. Salah and Fabinho are the only players who would improve Juve, yet look at them go.
At Dortmund he had maybe 3 good players (Reus, Lewandowski, Hummels). The rest of the team was bang average, and he got them to a CL final as well as winning 2 league titles.
The best coach in the world no doubt.
I agree but I think your selling Dortmund and Liverpool a bit short bro. Now for sure he overachieved with both sides and neither were the best on paper in their respectives leagues or in Europe but they were not "average" imo.
For example at Dortmund Blaczykowski, Bender, Gotze, Subotic, and Wiedenfeller were very good players, though they would make it into any of the three elite teams of that time period (Madrid, Bayern, Barca).
At Liverpool he has a fantastic front 3 in Mane, Salah, and Firminho, a talented midfield, the prems best defender in Van Dijk, and Alisson who is potentially the world best keeper. Id say the only weak links in that team are the English men. With that said on paper he does a weaker side than City, Madrid, Barca, and Juve and last year the were Napoli tier so he def has done a fantastic job with Lpool aswell.
He's up there but I cant put him above Simeone