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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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@Nzoric just checked amazon warehouse for some mirrorless cameras, and they have some deals to consider. cheap shipping within the eu, proper amazon warranty, best return policy.
Code:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00IE9XHCM/
- sony a6000, "very good" which is usually mint condition
Code:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00IE9XHE0/
- same, with 16-50 lens
Code:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00IE9XH90/
- with 16-50, plus a telephoto lens too (it's not in the description, only on the pic, so i'd ask before buying just to be sure)
usually it's the german store that has the best prices. it's still worth checking the same product in different stores: i bought my monitor from the italian store at a ridiculous price, and the same stuff was much more expensive in every other european warehouse.

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Thanks a lot man :tup:

I'm definitely getting a camera today. I have an agreement to buy a a600 + 15-50mm + 50-200mm for 370 euro. One previous owner, 7k shutter count.

I'm just waiting to see if the lady selling the a6400 will accept my 500 euro offer :biggrin:
 

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s4tch

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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    Thanks a lot man :tup:

    I'm definitely getting a camera today. I have an agreement to buy a a600 + 15-50mm + 50-200mm for 370 euro. One previous owner, 7k shutter count.

    I'm just waiting to see if the lady selling the a6400 will accept my 500 euro offer :biggrin:
    sounds good either way :tup: let us know then, especially @j0ker wants a resolution asap
     

    Nzoric

    Grazie Mirko
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    How much editing do you guys do on photos?

    I downloaded lightroom and suddenly all my adds are from insts photographers selling 15-20 dollsr presets.

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    DAiDEViL

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    Depends, not much anymore. Mostly curves adjustments when I shoot B&W.

    There is a free version of Capture One for Sony users btw. It's great.

    Never give any money to greedy Adobe if you don't have to.
     
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    s4tch

    s4tch

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    Luminar AI looks almost scary @s4tch

    https://skylum.com/luminar-ai

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    Look at the portrait examples they show.
    Not sure I like it.
    i remember i posted a video preview of these features and we had a similar conclusion. it's like some presets, but you can tweak them much more deeply and quickly than you can an ordinary preset.

    i can still see a lot of actual pros (or occasional amateurs like me) to go the ai way. it can save plenty of time if you manage to control it and tweak the results to your liking.

    btw did you see 'arsenal 2'? - this is an ai photo assistant. nothing new, but it can speed up the workflow by quite a margin by making those stacking processes automatic and straight forward. i won't buy it as i like to mess around with the pics, but look at the number of backers, it's already a hit.

    there was a discussion the other day in a fuji fb group when a guy posted an iphone 11 pro landscape and took the same image with his fuji, then was surprised to see that the iphone pic is sharper overall. it's time to realize that phones do so much automatic post processing, not to mention hdr, that the end result can look better at first sight than a non-processed single image taken with a pro camera and lens. sooner or later ai will take over milc's and dslr's too.
     

    Nzoric

    Grazie Mirko
    Jan 16, 2011
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    How much so you guys rely on the exposure bar in the viewfinder? For it to be dialed in on my camera with a low f/ i need to set a slow shutter speed, making it kinda hard to get goos pictures.

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    s4tch

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    How much so you guys rely on the exposure bar in the viewfinder? For it to be dialed in on my camera with a low f/ i need to set a slow shutter speed, making it kinda hard to get goos pictures.

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    you can use shutter priority, auto iso or manual mode to keep the shutter speed in control. the exposure bar is just an indication, rely on your taste instead.

    i usually set auto iso to 125 shutter speed, it keeps most situations in control. i don't mind some noise at all in casual situations, so iso can go up to 6400 on both of my bodies, and i always set the aperture manually. but i mostly shoot casual family stuff. for landscapes, a tripod and full manual mode might do the trick.
     

    DAiDEViL

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    Idk if i understand correctly.

    You need a longer shutter speed because you shoot with the lens stopped down and therefore things get blurry?

    If so, why not just raise the ISO? It's not as dramatic as people make it out to be. I'd set it to 3200 Max though.
     

    Nzoric

    Grazie Mirko
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    :tup:

    The pictures Ive taken on auto iso look absolutely horrible tho

    If I keep iso at 100, then there's really no other option for good exposure than to have a slow shutter, right?

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    DAiDEViL

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    If I keep iso at 100, then there's really no other option for good exposure than to have a slow shutter, right?
    Well, a tripod if you shoot landacapes or architecture. But there really is no need to keep the ISO so low these days imo. Rather have a slightly noisy pic than a blurry one that's basically unusable.
     

    Nzoric

    Grazie Mirko
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    Well, a tripod if you shoot landacapes or architecture. But there really is no need to keep the ISO so low these days imo. Rather have a slightly noisy pic than a blurry one that's basically unusable.
    :tup:

    Any editing tips to make it seem less noisy?

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    s4tch

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    If I keep iso at 100, then there's really no other option for good exposure than to have a slow shutter, right?
    that's how the exposure triangle works: to keep the ss relatively low, either you open the aperture, or bump up the iso.

    or you introduce a flash. not gonna work for landscapes or architecture photography
     

    DAiDEViL

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    You can denoise it in post? :p

    In Capture One for example.

    I'd always shoot RAW+JPG. If you need to do more heavy editing you definitely want to edit the RAW file, as it is way more flexible than the JPG. But unless you shoot over 3200 iso, I wouldn't worry much at all. The casual viewer doesn't zoom in to 100% to search for noise.

    If you have a REALLY noisy one, what I do at times is to remove the noise, but then you are often left with rather muddy details, so you ADD your own bit of noise after denoising.

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    Get a camera @j0ker
     
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