I dont mind if its a manual setup, as Id like to get to know the craft
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You mind buying used?
Chances are we want you to buy a Fuji
But taking your budget in mind, I'd suggest the Sony a6000 again. The sheer amount of them on ebay simply makes them really cheap.
≈ 270€
For portraits, a 50mm M42/CanonFD/MinoltaMD lens. Vintage manual lenses (The Pentacon 50 1.8 says hi), can be found on ebay for dirt cheap.
Adapter ≈ 15€
Lens ≈ 40€
Wide angle lenses are kinda expensive, so maybe try a 25mm and see if you need something wider. I have a 12mm, but hardly ever use it.
The dirt cheap Neewer 25mm 1.8 I use alot as walk around lens is also available for sony e-mount
≈60€
For manual lenses in general, there is always the chinese. They have become really good. Just look around on Amazon for 7 Artisans and Meike. Great little lenses if you don't mind manual focus. Only the wide angle will set you back more if you decide to get one (>150€ i'd say) Best thing I'd suggest you to do here, is to just use the kit lens the camera comes with, it's wide end will be just fine for starters.
There is so much shit you can buy for that kind of money though, see what @s4tch comes up with.
Chances are we want you to buy a Fuji
But taking your budget in mind, I'd suggest the Sony a6000 again. The sheer amount of them on ebay simply makes them really cheap.
≈ 270€
For portraits, a 50mm M42/CanonFD/MinoltaMD lens. Vintage manual lenses (The Pentacon 50 1.8 says hi), can be found on ebay for dirt cheap.
Adapter ≈ 15€
Lens ≈ 40€
Wide angle lenses are kinda expensive, so maybe try a 25mm and see if you need something wider. I have a 12mm, but hardly ever use it.
The dirt cheap Neewer 25mm 1.8 I use alot as walk around lens is also available for sony e-mount
≈60€
For manual lenses in general, there is always the chinese. They have become really good. Just look around on Amazon for 7 Artisans and Meike. Great little lenses if you don't mind manual focus. Only the wide angle will set you back more if you decide to get one (>150€ i'd say) Best thing I'd suggest you to do here, is to just use the kit lens the camera comes with, it's wide end will be just fine for starters.
There is so much shit you can buy for that kind of money though, see what @s4tch comes up with.
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Chances are we want you to buy a Fuji
busy day, i'll try to find something along these lines later today @Nzoric
i guess it'll be some fuji body with the little 15-45 kit lens, which is surprisingly good image quality wise given its size and weight, and some manual for portraits like you suggested. but basically anything will do with the proper lenses, for example a nikon d3x00 body, any af-s zoom starting around 16mm plus the 35mm f1.8 g or the 50mm f1.8 would be a perfect starting gear. these primes served me very well for 10+ years, good tools for reasonable money.
@Nzoric
x-t1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293713029899 ~280€
+
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143698002710 ~180€ (or any cheap native fuji zoom)
or
x-t10 + lens
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254705282346 - price to be decided, i guess it wouldn't cost more than 300-350€
+ a cheap manual 50mm with character for portraits. there's too many of these, just an example:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274400615169
+ an m42 adaptor:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114253548869
complete set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324042092372
you can add a manual lens dai suggested later, but this would already give a pretty solid quality
honestly, i'd get the x-t1. still a brilliant camera. i own the x-t2 and the x-m1, i'd gladly take the x-t1 as my only body. this guy sums it up perfectly:
x-t1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293713029899 ~280€
+
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143698002710 ~180€ (or any cheap native fuji zoom)
or
x-t10 + lens
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254705282346 - price to be decided, i guess it wouldn't cost more than 300-350€
+ a cheap manual 50mm with character for portraits. there's too many of these, just an example:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274400615169
+ an m42 adaptor:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114253548869
complete set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324042092372
you can add a manual lens dai suggested later, but this would already give a pretty solid quality
honestly, i'd get the x-t1. still a brilliant camera. i own the x-t2 and the x-m1, i'd gladly take the x-t1 as my only body. this guy sums it up perfectly:
Had no idea the XT1 is so cheap.same sensor, same af system basically, so you get the same image quality. rule of thumb is that the 1-digit t models (t1, t2 etc) are the flagships of their respective generations, as dai wrote, the 2-digit t's are kind of "light" versions, with slightly dialed back features (dumber bracketing, lower fps continuous burst, smaller buffer, less powerful processor, dumber video options, fewer buttons, fewer dials and shit, etc), and obviously a smaller body. usually i wouldn't mind the smaller body for the cheaper price. that very t1 looks like a bargain though.
as for the fuji fandom, don't take me too seriously. sony milc family and nikon d-slr system offer good options too, you can find fine olympus mft kits at that price too. i'm just a sucker for the fuji ergonomy and physical controls.
as for the fuji fandom, don't take me too seriously. sony milc family and nikon d-slr system offer good options too, you can find fine olympus mft kits at that price too. i'm just a sucker for the fuji ergonomy and physical controls.
xa5 has a different kind of sensor. xm/xt/xe bodies use the x-trans, xa bodies have bayer. it's the lower end range with plastic body, fewer manual controls and film sims and stuff.
these modern x-range fujis all have very good image quality. i have the t2 and the m1, both outputs are great. it's the build, controls, processing power and services that make a difference. i forgot to add yesterday that the x-t1 has weather resistant body, the double digit t's and lower end models doesn't. i'd look for an x-trans model, but either way you can't really go wrong.
these modern x-range fujis all have very good image quality. i have the t2 and the m1, both outputs are great. it's the build, controls, processing power and services that make a difference. i forgot to add yesterday that the x-t1 has weather resistant body, the double digit t's and lower end models doesn't. i'd look for an x-trans model, but either way you can't really go wrong.
