Petroleum Economics and the Middle East (12 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

If you want to actually have an intelligent conversation with me then don't act like a child. Seriously, stop calling me an idiot just because i have different opinions from yours. I don't get why everybody claims that this Iraq war was about Oil money when gas prices have skyrocketed and National debt has gone through the roof. So how did we make a profit off of that? And don't quote your stupid "actual facts" from those anti-America liberal articles you have.

You're so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. You are too dumb to realize this is about our oil security for decades to come. Stop looking at it from just a dumbass American point of view and learn some fucking economics and foreign policy, fellow American. It's in your best interest.

People like you need to learn from me. This discussion is partly what I do.

Liberal articles? I'm sorry, but Wolfowitz and Greenspan are actually both right-wingers, you fucking retard. Learn up about your own country before you even TRY to debate me.

 

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[JCK]

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Fuck you Putin!

You know this will give you Vinman-points?

 

[Fred]

Yeah, Delpiero06 needs to post in here for sure.

It's an important topic. But then again, if we're talking about pipelines running through Turkey and Azerbaijan, he wouldn't be able to understand because he's never heard of those nations.

If you want to actually have an intelligent conversation with me then don't act like a child. Seriously, stop calling me an idiot just because i have different opinions from yours. I don't get why everybody claims that this Iraq war was about Oil money when gas prices have skyrocketed and National debt has gone through the roof. So how did we make a profit off of that? And don't quote your stupid "actual facts" from those anti-America liberal articles you have.

 

[X Æ A-12]

You're so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. You are too dumb to realize this is about our oil security for decades to come. Stop looking at it from just a dumbass American point of view and learn some fucking economics and foreign policy, fellow American. It's in your best interest.

People like you need to learn from me. This discussion is partly what I do.

Liberal articles? I'm sorry, but Wolfowitz and Greenspan are actually both right-wingers, you fucking retard. Learn up about your own country before you even TRY to debate me.

I know Wolfowitz and Greenspan are right wingers but that doesn't mean whoever wrote the article is. Calm down anyway i'm just debating for fun theres no need to get so worked up about it. I do not support the Iraq war and I don't think Bush should be the president. He's not an evil guy like some people say he is, but he has no business running a country. Just constantly calling me stupid is nothing more than annoying so you can stop that. I am willing to listen to whatever you have to say.

 

[Osman]

Whoever wrote that article didnt just invent those statements (neither the fact of Greenspan, the worshiped guru, saying that in his book). Wolfowitz made those statements because its not an uncomfortable truth anymore, no one buys the propoganda and there is no reason for them to hide the obvious anymore because Bush's term is up, and they have already robbed Iraq (you naively seem to think them getting all the oil mean cheaper prizes for the public, no, it means 200bn more for Haliburton&co).

Wolfowitz is not just another right winger, he was and is in parts the man behind the curtain. The big kahuna hawk who is labled the puppeteer to his jolly good happy puppet, Bush. He has been the main policy maker and the chief adviser, they discuss what to do, and then basically its a foregone conclusion that Bush will listen to them without question.


So when this guy, who has been busy with damage controll and spin, says this, then you cant really doubt it whatsoever.

 

[Bjerknes]

I know Wolfowitz and Greenspan are right wingers but that doesn't mean whoever wrote the article is. Calm down anyway i'm just debating for fun theres no need to get so worked up about it. I do not support the Iraq war and I don't think Bush should be the president. He's not an evil guy like some people say he is, but he has no business running a country. Just constantly calling me stupid is nothing more than annoying so you can stop that. I am willing to listen to whatever you have to say.

Using Liberal as some sort of negative adjective needs to stop. Moreover, you were the one who came in here saying what I posted was concocted false stories, which is not true because Greenspan has said it several times on television.

People need to get over the fact that the Iraq war is primarily about oil, because it is. Not only do you need to get that into your mind, but you also have to get a little geography in your mind before you can even begin to understand what's going on in the world. Don't fucking tell me geography doesn't matter.

 

[Bjerknes]

You know this will give you Vinman-points?

I know. That's why I said it.

Speaking of Vinni, I still haven't seen a response from him regarding the articles I posted that confirm the war on Iraq is about oil. Hmm, I wonder why.

 

[Eddy]

If you want to actually have an intelligent conversation with me then don't act like a child. Seriously, stop calling me an idiot just because i have different opinions from yours. I don't get why everybody claims that this Iraq war was about Oil money when gas prices have skyrocketed and National debt has gone through the roof. So how did we make a profit off of that? And don't quote your stupid "actual facts" from those anti-America liberal articles you have.

Eh dude...No offence to you but you need to lighten up. Why would a country head over to another country a 1000 miles apart just to invade it because of a dictator. It's a known FACT Iraq has insane amounts of Oil.

 

[Osman]

Wolfowitz even said in his statements, Saddam is just another dictator in that article. There are many dictators in the world, many which The US support (like they did with Saddam), hardly about cleaning them up (but making them your puppets).

And about threats to US, he said also how North Korea are much more bigger threat (and how its the worst dictatorship of fucking over its populace), but they didnt do anything about them because they dont have any resources that makes them drool.

 

[Bjerknes]

Wolfowitz even said in his statements, Saddam is just another dictator in that article. There are many dictators in the world, many which The US support (like they did with Saddam), hardly about cleaning them up (but making them your puppets).

And about threats to US, he said also how North Korea are much more bigger threat (and how its the worst dictatorship of fucking over its populace), but they didnt do anything about them because they dont have any resources that makes them drool.

That's correct, Osman. We love dictators that share the same interests as we do.

It's pretty obvious Iraq is all about oil. Throwing in the comments by all these government figures proves the matter.

Saying that high oil prices currently shows that the war on Iraq isn't about oil is just bad economics and completely shortsighted.

 

[Chxta]

When Andrew is back from his ban I would become more active in this thread. Methinks we can tete-a-tete a lot here...

 

[X Æ A-12]

Eh dude...No offence to you but you need to lighten up. Why would a country head over to another country a 1000 miles apart just to invade it because of a dictator. It's a known FACT Iraq has insane amounts of Oil.

Ur telling me to lighten up? Considering Andy's posts about me i think i have done quite well at being calm. On this forum everybody seems to get away with talking shit to me but if i was to talk like Andy does than i would get banned.

 

[Alen]

On this forum everybody seems to get away with talking shit to me but if i was to talk like Andy does than i would get banned.

Yes, you'll get banned if you talk shit to others, just like Andy is now banned for the same reason.
Now drop the victim attitude.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Yes, you'll get banned if you talk shit to others, just like Andy is now banned for the same reason.
Now drop the victim attitude.

ok my bad.
What did Andy get banned for?

 

[giovanotti]

Interesting topic.
Let me add this:Egypt all the way!!!!!!

 

[Bjerknes]

Lets bring this topic back to life. A few interesting notes.

Prior to being hired by the Bush administration, Condoleezza Rice was on the board of Chevron. She was on the board when the latter company covered up the killings of protesters to Chevron's activities in Nigeria (Niger Delta).

Michael Chertoff, Secretary of Homeland Security of the United States, is a Jewish American who probably is a member of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency.

And don't ask about the four non-Arabs arrested on the GW bridge on September 11th who mysteriously vanished, along with an entire Jewish company, back to Israel in the wake of the whole disaster.

 

[Verge]

Of course it's about oil.. who would honestly debate against this ?


Venezuela... you are next. Huge oil reserves.


If we could figure out how to efficiently convert it, america itself has large amounts of oil(in a way)

 

[Bjerknes]

It's a shame that Hugo Chavez is so much of a dickhead that he stole the Orinoco fields from the likes of Exxon and gave it to his PDVSA. Douchebag is part of the reason crude is now trading at... lets see... $117 per barrel.

 

[Lion]

It's a shame that Hugo Chavez is so much of a dickhead

 

[Bjerknes]

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LOL, I love that shit.