O lost all hope to this series, unless its a total remake, which appears not to be the case again...
The controls are revamped every year, they seem highly improved in the first demos, but somehow end up sucking really really bad in the final versions...
In the last 3 years PES is gradually becoming worse by the year, in this state FIFA plays exactly as PES was and PES plays worse than PES was.
The common factor is frustration in both of the edition and the competition lies on which is less frusrating, the clumsy control of the current PES and the many stupid elements that they have adopted, plus the decade old some bugs (with defenders still not trying to intercept the ball when they are between the ball and the player they mark)
However not all is lost, surprisingly, i had the fan of the decade on footie sims with FIFA 2012 for the PS VITA, it reminds old time PES and it is very satisfying to play, with some manager elements to sweeten the deal and the license for the names one cannot patch in a console, making it the complete package. (as i spend more time in the hospital, rather then home, those 10min of VITA football are really refreshing)
I wonder if the PES 2013 will hit the VITA this time, when i have no expectations, i tend to get pleasant surprises...