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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
my point is entire team has sucked in CL knockouts. where was juve midfield and defense vs bayern in 2016 and madird in 2017 and 2018 and ajax 2019 and lyon 2020 and porto 2021?

maybe we need to focus on why teams is leaking goals left and right? starts with having weak italian coaches like allegri, sarri, pirlo
Lol. Allegri weak? Dumb post is dumb.

Maybe Dybala shouldn’t get a red card in the first game of CL knockout tie against Madrid, allowing to play a man up for half an hour. Maybe then we don’t need to be them by 4 goals to progress.

Maybe he shouldn’t be the second worst player on the pitch in the final in Cardiff behind Bonucci.

Maybe if he actually scored some goals in the knockouts we’d be able to win some games even when conceding a couple.

Stop trolling, Loin.

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We have reached CL final with Dybala on the team as the main star of the team.



Should he singlehandly take us to another final? Why you guys raise the bar when it comes to Dybala?

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Don't act like we were playing better last year. The only thing that saved our season was Post lock down Dybala's performances. he saved our asses weak in and weak out.

Who destroyed our main rival last season in home and away against Inter and won us 6 points?yes that was Dybala.

Who won us the game against atalanta away? Again that was Dybala. Who scored more opening goals in the team and was top 3 player of creating key chances in the league? Again it was Dybala.

Whose position has been changed every season and again adapted himself to all of them for the sake of the team and still delivered ?

So go on and say he is shit and he is the one holding us back.
C’mon, dude. He had one great game in the CL run. Against Barca. and I believe he scored in one of the Porto matches, but other than that he was invisible.

The season after he scored 1 goal on 33 attempts in CL, and got that dumb red card that basically guaranteed us being knocked out by Madrid.

I want to keep him and build a proper midfield behind him and Morata/Haaland/whoever... but that doesn’t change the fact he has underperformed pretty regularly in the CL knockouts.
 

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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Lol. Allegri weak? Dumb post is dumb.

Maybe Dybala shouldn’t get a red card in the first game of CL knockout tie against Madrid, allowing to play a man up for half an hour. Maybe then we don’t need to be them by 4 goals to progress.

Maybe he shouldn’t be the second worst player on the pitch in the final in Cardiff behind Bonucci.

Maybe if he actually scored some goals in the knockouts we’d be able to win some games even when conceding a couple.

Stop trolling, Loin.

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it is allegri's fault. allegri got schooled by bayern , madrid, and ajax at home. AT HOME DUDE! not to mention the CL finals lmao. he got schooled my atletico as well. if it wasn't for a super human ronaldo, it was going to be the 2nd round of 16 exist back to back for him. 4 times getting schooled in 3 years is not a one off. it's a pattern

dybala sending off doesn't mean u lose by 3 goals at home.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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it is allegri's fault. allegri got schooled by bayern , madrid, and ajax at home. AT HOME DUDE! not to mention the CL finals lmao. he got schooled my atletico as well. if it wasn't for a super human ronaldo, it was going to be the 2nd round of 16 exist back to back for him. 4 times getting schooled in 3 years is not a one off. it's a pattern

dybala sending off doesn't mean u lose by 3 goals at home.
When was the last time Juve did well in the CL that wasn't under Allegri? 2003?

Made two finals? Despite the home losses against Bayern and Madrid the away games were much better. In both, over the the length of the tie as a whole, the club went to toe toe with top teams and could have gone through. Ajax game was different, they were clearly better in each part (other than first half in Turin) then Dybala went off and we got slaughtered. They were the second best team in Europe that season. They were better toe to toe than everyone they faced, even Tottenham.

Yea they were disappointing results but these were hard fought defeats against the best teams in the competition not limp dick losses to Galatasary, Lyon or Porto
 

RoiLezard

LizardKing in black&white
Apr 7, 2018
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We’re missing the bigger picture here; our management sucks. They weakened the team by downgrading our midfield, we sold Vidal and Pogba to sign free Khedira, Can and Ramsey. If we had kept Vidal and Pogba, we would have won the CL at least twice by now. The management shot themselves in the foot and then blamed it all on our unattractive style of football. It allowed them to get rid of the only competitive coach we’ve had in years.

We were never good enough and we will probably never be as long our management continues to display the same levels of incompetence. I don’t think AA cares about winning the CL as much as he cares about JJ market growth.


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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
it is allegri's fault. allegri got schooled by bayern , madrid, and ajax at home. AT HOME DUDE! not to mention the CL finals lmao. he got schooled my atletico as well. if it wasn't for a super human ronaldo, it was going to be the 2nd round of 16 exist back to back for him. 4 times getting schooled in 3 years is not a one off. it's a pattern

dybala sending off doesn't mean u lose by 3 goals at home.
Super cringe. Cringiest troll post on this forum since... Badass’ last post.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
When was the last time Juve did well in the CL that wasn't under Allegri? 2003?

Made two finals? Despite the home losses against Bayern and Madrid the away games were much better. In both, over the the length of the tie as a whole, the club went to toe toe with top teams and could have gone through. Ajax game was different, they were clearly better in each part (other than first half in Turin) then Dybala went off and we got slaughtered. They were the second best team in Europe that season. They were better toe to toe than everyone they faced, even Tottenham.

Yea they were disappointing results but these were hard fought defeats against the best teams in the competition not limp dick losses to Galatasary, Lyon or Porto
point of view: you a business owner.

Situation: you have an employee and u ask him not to fuck up a task, only to go and fuck up and then try and fix it and does so well only to still end up failing... would you have same patience.? especially when he does it 3 times in 4 years?

I ask cuz juve is still a business. and allegri is was an employee who failed in his tasks.

side note: how come dybala we are not allowed to have excuses, but darlig allegri is afforded tons of excuses for failing? hmmm @Post Ironic @Hydde @Osman

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Super cringe. Cringiest troll post on this forum since... Badass’ last post.
how is cringe? saying something is cringe doesn't make it cringe.

allegri for 2016 got outplayed by bayern at home.

allegri for 2017 got wrecked in final

allegri for 2018 got wrecked by by real madrid at home. got schooled by tottenham at home.

allegri at 2019 got schooled by atletico away and ajax at home. do you disagree with the results? are you disputing the losses?

is it too much to ask your club NOT to have to attempt comebacks in every game? or is allegri allowed excuses?
 
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Schooled in 2-2 draws at home. Lol. What joke this cringe-y creature, Loin is. We had 1 single embarrassing result under Max. Getting knocked out by Ajax.

Other than that, we lost hard-fought battles against the best teams in football.

Muting this cretinous nonsense now.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
hard fought batlles huh. see the excuses again. he fought hard. so? he still lost and made juve have to climb a mountain in those games..

gave up a 2 goal lead vs tottenham after scoring twice in first 10 mins of game. yeah that is getting schooled. he had to go out and win the game in return leg instead of being a comfortable away game like vs barca in 2017.

hard fought battles that he lost. after messing up the first legs. say it. he messed up first legs. since 2016 this has been a pattern.

dybala going missing in CL is a pattern. allegri messing first legs of CL ties since 2016 is a pattern.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
We've definitely had more than one bad loss under Allegri tbh
THANK YOU! finally someone who isn't afraid to call out tuz darling allegri.

i don't get how members here can shit on mourinho or ancelotti or guardiola calling them has beens in CL since they won it long ago, but defend allegri with excuses every chance they get

it's why i dont want him back even though i am desperate for pirlo to be gone. he isn't the solution to carry the team forward.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,813
THANK YOU! finally someone who isn't afraid to call out tuz darling allegri.

i don't get how members here can shit on mourinho or ancelotti or guardiola calling them has beens in CL since they won it long ago, but defend allegri with excuses every chance they get

it's why i dont want him back even though i am desperate for pirlo to be gone. he isn't the solution to carry the team forward.
I mean I love Allegri, but that Napoli match was...oof. The comeback victories we've had in the Champions League were timeless, but you can only have such events if the first leg was completely fucked. Overall he did exceptionally well and is a Juve legend without a doubt, but he had his fair share of moments too.

I've been saying this and I know some people disagree, but bringing back Allegri will not fix our problems. No coach will. We'd probably have a few more points on the board, but I don't think we would've won the league. The writing has been on the wall for a while now, and we've been in steady decline for a few years. The only thing that saved us last season was COVID, ironically, as Lazio was poised to win that season without a doubt until DYBALA helped drag us over the finish line after the resumption of the season. God himself could come down here and coach, and even he would struggle with the midfield we have, key injuries in a thin as fuck squad, and maybe 1.1045 LBs combined (going on what, year 3 of this?). At the end of the day, it's years of poor planning catching up to us.
 

juventus4life

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2012
4,388
Allegri has his problems (messed up on first legs) but it's not easy to find an unproven coach to succeed. We hit the jackpot with Lippi (has one single decent season with Napoli after he left Atalanta). Mods can list coaches we should go for in the summer so we can vote.
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duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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Max took a strong team and turn it into a machine. Our road to Cardiff was a poem, beautiful. Sadly, after that, everything fell apart and we did plenty bad games, not one, not a few, a lot.

He's CR7 in his last season here and couldn't make it work neither with an stronger side than our current one. Not doubt we would improve a lot with Max but before we need to change our management
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
Max took a strong team and turn it into a machine. Our road to Cardiff was a poem, beautiful. Sadly, after that, everything fell apart and we did plenty bad games, not one, not a few, a lot.

He's CR7 in his last season here and couldn't make it work neither with an stronger side than our current one. Not doubt we would improve a lot with Max but before we need to change our management
The biggest problem in Max's last season here was the defence. I am almost certain that we would have eliminated Ajax and probably Tottenham too if we could field Chiellini or Benatia instead of Rugani. And by the way, Ajax were a lot better than the Lyon that eliminated us last year and this year's Porto. Just imagine if Max had De Ligt instead of Rugani.

The defence situation was partly Allegri's fault because he never played Benatia, even though he was in better form then Bonucci and he got sick of it and asked to leave. But mainly it was Paratici's fault for giving Benatia away midseason and leaving us with always injured Chiello and garbage Rugani. Unbelievable idiocy..
 

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