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TheTruth

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Aug 24, 2015
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In regards to Dybala not being played regularly by Allegri,

I can understand part of Allegri's strategy. Dybala is unproven at this level. If you play him every week and he suddenly has a couple of bad games, he can lose confidence and the media will turn on him. If he plays lets say every other game, the risk of having a bad run will decrease immensely.

Anyways, Dybala turns 22 next month. He's no 18 year old raw youngster. He's the same age as Pogba, even though thats not a fair comparison. Another example; look at Martial at United. It's all about the individual in my eyes. Van Gaal plays a 20 year old 50m euro kid every week. That tells me alot about Martial.

Now if Allegri is not playing Dybala week in and week out, that's a reflection of Dybala. He's doesn't have that confidence of a Martial lets say, or even Pogba. And that's fair enough, it doesn't mean he's not a very good fotball player, it just tells me that at this stage he is not capable of carrying the load and expectations of Juventus every game like Tevez did. It will come with time, maybe after Christmas even.

With that being said, he has looked very good when he has played. And with the catastrophic start to this season in Serie A, we can't afford to wait. Dybala has to be in the team with Morata or Mandzukic.

11 goals in 9 league games is a complete joke for a reigning 4 time Scudetto winner.
 

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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Nothing what you said makes any sense out Allegri's bewildering mumbo jumbo comments. There is no tactic to this, and it sounds more desperately dumb each time in past press conferences.
Is this personal against Allegri? Because Allegri is spot on regarding his comments.

Dybala has to improve physically because Juve's style of play is indeed physical and it is why Giovinco wasn't considered under Conte and Allegri.

He also responded to Zamparini saying that at Palermo he used to touch the ball once a minute and at Juve he touches the ball every few seconds which forces Allegri to instruct him tactically since he wont be used as SS too often.

I don't see anything wrong in his stataments, in-facts he has a point.

You're criticizing Allegri for almost everything which makes me believe that it's just personal dislike.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I don't disagree with everything he says, the physical part or adjusting tactically or to big club. But in past statements he ends it with really senseless reasoning that comes off idiotic, and like he is stubbornly making excuses to keep benching him because it simply stopped being logical long time ago.

Overcomplicates things for sure with constant talk of not playing him due too much pressure. Which push comes to shove is just dumb after a certain point, a point we passed while back...

It should be much simpler. A player who performs and gives us better chance to win, especially team who lacks creativity, should play as much as possible. We litterally handicap ourselves by playing Zaza or Mandzukic instead, and rely insanely too much on Cuadrado to do it all creatively. We cannot afford this level of stubbornness at all because of the awful results.

It's type of dumb of stubborn decision making that hurts the club, and you can bet your ass on that I don't like it because of that alone. I have nothing personal against him, but he is simply a coach of my beloved team who is failing and trying to excuse said failing with mumbo jumbo.


Lastly: This is nothing like how he introduced Morata last year at all before someone mentions that again, a long list of obvious differences that been clarified enough times.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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The first being that Dybala has played a lot more in the first part of the season than Morata did in his first year.

The other being that we don't have a starting duo (one world class) to fall back on. Dybala is one of the starters. I think Allegri is both protecting the player and being defensive. But that's part of being a football coach, having millions of unqualified people telling you how to do your job, it's not something new for him.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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It is not, but his defensive stance is reaching defcon level. If it effects his decision making and puts the club in worse position for it, as it has, then he will for sure be called out for it.
 

B3N

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May 16, 2010
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It is not, but his defensive stance is reaching defcon level. If it effects his decision making and puts the club in worse position for it, as it has, then he will for sure be called out for it.
Exactly. How come these unqualified people don't jump on many other coaches' back in this league, some of whom were appointed as a new coach in summer working with a completely new team. If you don't believe in starting the kid as early, fair enough if there was already a working plan in place.
At least I'm glad the qualified people like club's president has picked up on this. Good comments from Agnelli last week in regards to what's happening currently.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Amazing player. Special talent. Our best player at the moment as well, and we really should be playing him as much as possible.

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I love the work Allegri has done for us, but not starting Dybala against Inter/Gladbach were clearly mistakes. No point trying to argue against it, all coaches get shit wrong at times. We look so much more smoother, creative and dangerous with him on the field. Fairly simple.
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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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Overcomplicates things for sure with constant talk of not playing him due too much pressure. Which push comes to shove is just dumb after a certain point, a point we passed while back...

It should be much simpler. A player who performs and gives us better chance to win, especially team who lacks creativity, should play as much as possible. We litterally handicap ourselves by playing Zaza or Mandzukic instead, and rely insanely too much on Cuadrado to do it all creatively. We cannot afford this level of stubbornness at all because of the awful results.
this.

If he is giving you positives, just fukin play the man. Is that simple.

Dybala doesnt need protection, he is not a 19 yr old coming from the primavera. he is already a pro footballer, very young and inexperienced, but thats normal at his age.

Its incredible how different we look with him on field from the beggining. Allegri is being stubborn for some reason on this one. No buts of ifs.

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MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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I wouldn't be against benching Dybala here and there to protect him IF we had another player with similar characteristics to connect our attack. If the alternative is Zaza then there is no debate here.

All the tactics change when you go from Dybala to an uncoordinated deer. The team is different. Even if you had a shitty backup SS like Giovinco. Ok, at least the tactics can stay the same but everything goes into toilet when you take out Dybala.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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I wouldn't be against benching Dybala here and there to protect him IF we had another player with similar characteristics to connect our attack. If the alternative is Zaza then there is no debate here.

All the tactics change when you go from Dybala to an uncoordinated deer. The team is different. Even if you had a shitty backup SS like Giovinco. Ok, at least the tactics can stay the same but everything goes into toilet when you take out Dybala.
I think that Morata is capable of playing as SS as well. But if Dybala is available he needs to start by default as SS. The kid is too good and we're too desperate for points atm to protect him.

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Slow? Hes very quick off the mark and he's a smart player, which makes him fast.
He's got certain explosiveness to him. That initial 2-3 meters when he takes on his marker and gets past them. Has unpredictable dribblings, sort of like DP, who also wasn't the fastest player around, but he could make things happen on his own and make decisive run or pass.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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i like paulo, but hes slow and tires fast imo it's really a headache to find a spot for him on the team imo
It his non stop running, wonder if he's keen to impress or what, but he should manage himself better, pick his spots and don't be all over the place, liked where he started this game, playing between the lines.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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i like paulo, but hes slow and tires fast imo it's really a headache to find a spot for him on the team imo
Thing is, when he does, he's still keeping the view and distribute it well, and remains dangerous.

Such players tend to remain good when the speed is fading later in their career



But nothing wrong with a good "Bale at Madrid" style muscular improvement, whilst not comprimising agility
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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he has a lot of del piero . but still delpiero is better than him.
He definitely draws a foul like Del Piero.

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Thing is, when he does, he's still keeping the view and distribute it well, and remains dangerous.

Such players tend to remain good when the speed is fading later in their career



But nothing wrong with a good "Bale at Madrid" style muscular improvement, whilst not comprimising agility
Like many have said. He has good explosive speed but he's too short to be quick over long distances like Pogba who has long striding legs.
 

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