How many goals and assists this year - 2018/19

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dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Saying he would have played just as good is speculation too. :p

Bernadeschi put in an immense performance, and I don’t think it can really be argued that Dybala plays with the same energy and physicality. Berna pushes the match forward and ups the tempo more than Dybala. Doesn’t means he is better, but he suits the style we played yesterday better. He also is much more of a chance creator and pass-first player around the box than Dybala.

Still. Dybala is an immense player and will obviously be incredibly useful for us in matches against big clubs where we have to adapt to a different style of play. As shown by his complete dismantling of Barcelona, etc. I still want to see him in the middle as Ronaldo-Dybala-Berna, even more so while Mandzu is out of form... Berna responsible for creating chances for Dybala and Ronaldo, and connecting the mid to those 2.

And I find it bizarre that anyone would be doing anything other than praising him for his attitude and effort yesterday. He was great when he came on.
I dont think we are ever going to see Dybala as CF, while Allegri is still here.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
12,867
Saying he would have played just as good is speculation too. :p

Bernadeschi put in an immense performance, and I don’t think it can really be argued that Dybala plays with the same energy and physicality. Berna pushes the match forward and ups the tempo more than Dybala. Doesn’t means he is better, but he suits the style we played yesterday better. He also is much more of a chance creator and pass-first player around the box than Dybala.

Still. Dybala is an immense player and will obviously be incredibly useful for us in matches against big clubs where we have to adapt to a different style of play. As shown by his complete dismantling of Barcelona, etc. I still want to see him in the middle as Ronaldo-Dybala-Berna, even more so while Mandzu is out of form... Berna responsible for creating chances for Dybala and Ronaldo, and connecting the mid to those 2.
I didn't assume the opposite but i give the benefit of the doubt, I simply think criticizing for imaginary thing is borderline strange

I don’t want to do comparisons with Berna, both are great, end of
 
Apr 19, 2007
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It helps moving the game forward. It's easier to do it at 2-0 nobody's deny that but then why do you reproach it to the player? Did he say he didn't want to play the first half? it's not his choice. I don't get the obsession with him, if he had Kean's cameo he'd be shat on for the miss and not having done nothing else that was useful. He played an intelligent game give the minutes given. The with hunt with him is getting boring.
Hes a 120 million dollar player who has high expectations. He deserves all the praise and criticism. All the top players get it. Sandro,Pjanic,Mandzukic etc all get held to a high standard and when they dont meet it they get abused. Honesly I think Dybala gets the longest leash on the damn team with the fans
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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That Bayern game was a masterpiece. We owned them until Morata was substituted with like 20 min to go. We played well against Real to in the first 60 min.
The Barca game was good I will give you that.

I just dont see how he fits into the way we are playing. Obviously still a good player, but I if the choice was between having him and having a top quality CM in the team, I think that we would be better of upgrading the CM.
I think he fits if we play him either as 9/false 9 between Ronaldo and Berna... or as a Del Piero style SS beside Ronaldo in a front two with a CAM like Berna behind them or 4-4-2 with creative wide mids (Berna + Cuadrado)

I don’t like him at all playing wide right. It doesn’t suit him imo.

The trouble is what to do with him if we have Mandzu and Kean as 9s (regardless of what you want it seems we are keeping Mario, and I have no idea what we will do with Kean, he seems very promising). Hard to find enough minutes for all 3 in the #9 position. Maybe though. I’d like to see Mario rested a lot more next year and used more specifically in matches that suit him and what he offers, keep him fresh for them.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Hes a 120 million dollar player who has high expectations. He deserves all the praise and criticism. All the top players get it. Sandro,Pjanic,Mandzukic etc all get held to a high standard and when they dont meet it they get abused. Honesly I think Dybala gets the longest leash on the damn team with the fans
Did he play bad? No he played well!

Can we stop being ridiculous?
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I didn't assume the opposite but i give the benefit of the doubt, I simply think criticizing for imaginary thing is borderline strange

I don’t want to do comparisons with Berna, both are great, end of
:tup:

Agree entirely. As I said, I loved his attitude and performance off the bench.

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I dont think we are ever going to see Dybala as CF, while Allegri is still here.
That’s why I’d be curious to see a 2-man front line with dybala-ronaldo

The Del Piero-Trez combo. Except this time you have Ronaldo instead of Trez who alongside the lethal finishing is also a big chance creator and assist man. 4-3-1-2, or 3-4-1-2... or 3-5-2... or 4-4-2... whatever. Bernadeschi can play CAM in front of 3 mids... Mezzala as the furthest forward of 3 mids. As a wide right mid/winger opposite Spina/Sandro/Cuadrado etc.

Having Berna, Dybala, Ronaldo all on the pitch together would be quite intriguing. All very versatile players who can create, drop deep to bring the ball forward, assist, and two of them lethal finishers.
 
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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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Dybala is a better option against more technically skilled but less physical teams.
He will be great against Man City or Barca.
Against a team of thugs like Atleti, Spurs or United, you need hustlers all over the pitch, and as much as I love the guy, Paulo ain't one.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Dybala is a better option against more technically skilled but less physical teams.
He will be great against Man City or Barca.
Against a team of thugs like Atleti, Spurs or United, you need hustlers all over the pitch, and as much as I love the guy, Paulo ain't one.
So he gets bullied by teams who have physical style of play
 
Oct 23, 2011
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Why the hell are people criticizing him after seeing him play yesterday? Yes, we were leading 2-0 when he came on, but Atletico was STILL at an advantage at that score, and now "the team that never tires out" was all of a sudden less physical when he came on? He was excellent against those so-called physical teams last year and this year and the only time he really struggled was against Atletico, which a lot of players struggle against. Bernardeschi after yesterday is not up to debate any longer, he needs to play. But i am sure he has a fair shot at regaining his starting 11 spot replacing Mandzukic.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Yes in the first leg and that is why bernadeschi was preferred if you watch the run and strength shown by bernadeschi for the penalty.Dybala needs to know how to deal with teams who have physical style of play.
Everyone was bullied in the first leg, I asked you about yesterday
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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I think he fits if we play him either as 9/false 9 between Ronaldo and Berna... or as a Del Piero style SS beside Ronaldo in a front two with a CAM like Berna behind them or 4-4-2 with creative wide mids (Berna + Cuadrado)

I don’t like him at all playing wide right. It doesn’t suit him imo.

The trouble is what to do with him if we have Mandzu and Kean as 9s (regardless of what you want it seems we are keeping Mario, and I have no idea what we will do with Kean, he seems very promising). Hard to find enough minutes for all 3 in the #9 position. Maybe though. I’d like to see Mario rested a lot more next year and used more specifically in matches that suit him and what he offers, keep him fresh for them.
I agree, but Allegri dont see Dybala as a 9. He prefers a bigger player in that position, and I dont think we will get the best out of Ronaldo as a CF. However it would be great if Allegri could make it work somehow.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I agree, but Allegri dont see Dybala as a 9. He prefers a bigger player in that position, and I dont think we will get the best out of Ronaldo as a CF. However it would be great if Allegri could make it work somehow.
:tup:

You could almost put Ronaldo-Dybala-Berna on the pitch and tell them to do whatever the heck they want in attack. ;)
 
May 3, 2012
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It helps moving the game forward. It's easier to do it at 2-0 nobody's deny that but then why do you reproach it to the player? Did he say he didn't want to play the first half? it's not his choice. I don't get the obsession with him, if he had Kean's cameo he'd be shat on for the miss and not having done anything else that was useful. He played an intelligent game give the minutes given. The with hunt with him is getting boring.
I don't reproach him at all. He's just not that type of player. Physically not strong enough. I can't imagine him doing what Berna did on the penalty. And I would argue we need more of that type of performance.
 

Snobist

DareDevil
Apr 16, 2017
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yep.

In nedved and dp times, they were striving for success, training seriously and also to maintain their families and/or kids.

Nowadays, kids just navigate on tweeter and play Fifa.
Too bad ADP and Nedved didnt have FIFA. Maybe they played Nintendo but they didnt have social media to brag about :p.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
12,867
I don't reproach him at all. He's just not that type of player. Physically not strong enough. I can't imagine him doing what Berna did on the penalty. And I would argue we need more of that type of performance.
Dybala is also capable of things Berna isn't able to do, both have their strength
 

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