Paulo Dybala - ST - Palermo (37 Viewers)
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Iturbe wishes he was this good This kid has the talent to be huge but it's impossible to tell whether that will happen.
It'll depend on so many things, how well he'll adapt to the team, to the system, can he take the pressure of playing for a big club? Can he be a consistent goal scorer at a higher level? And so on...
It'll depend on so many things, how well he'll adapt to the team, to the system, can he take the pressure of playing for a big club? Can he be a consistent goal scorer at a higher level? And so on...
Talent is one thing, coping with pressure in another. He looks mentally tough, but there a cracking point, and the way this saga is shaping up along with his slim cv are not boding well for him, ideally he should come here a la morata, where he's not needed right away but could take his time to break it to the first eleven, but if he goes for 40 mil to some Tottenham of a team he's dead meat imo
Absolutely no doubt!! Him going abroad for big money would most likely make him crack. But here I think we'd take our time with him, he isn't needed immediately and he'll get time to gel with the team. I'm inclined to think he'd have less pressure here with people like Tevez and Llorente ( 
) who would take the reins in attack and Dybala would be used to rotate and once he found his niche he'd start more.
) who would take the reins in attack and Dybala would be used to rotate and once he found his niche he'd start more.
Well, nowadays any promising nobody will cost you that. So not really.
Besides, to give you an example, if you had seen Robinho before he went to Europe you'd really think he was meant to be a world beater. He was nothing short of amazing. And then we all know what happened.
When it comes to scouting, professional or not, you're only able to tell who's talented and who isn't, nobody can predict a player's future. Now they can take a guess, an assumption. When i first saw a 16 yo Ronaldo (the real one) play, i had no doubt in my mind he was gonna hit the big time. But again, it was nothing but an assumption. What happens is sometimes you end up being right.
Besides, to give you an example, if you had seen Robinho before he went to Europe you'd really think he was meant to be a world beater. He was nothing short of amazing. And then we all know what happened.
When it comes to scouting, professional or not, you're only able to tell who's talented and who isn't, nobody can predict a player's future. Now they can take a guess, an assumption. When i first saw a 16 yo Ronaldo (the real one) play, i had no doubt in my mind he was gonna hit the big time. But again, it was nothing but an assumption. What happens is sometimes you end up being right.
I don't like that much drama either.
Sure, more will be expected of him for all the attention he's got (btw he just got a new article about him today on UEFA's website, so yes, he's quite famous now) but he'll fight for a starting spot (if Tevez stays) with Morata. So it's fair to say he'll have to break it to the starting 11.
I think he won't join anyone but us. But that's just a guess.
Sure, more will be expected of him for all the attention he's got (btw he just got a new article about him today on UEFA's website, so yes, he's quite famous now) but he'll fight for a starting spot (if Tevez stays) with Morata. So it's fair to say he'll have to break it to the starting 11.
I think he won't join anyone but us. But that's just a guess.
The key thing for me is he's not one of those technically shit/average 1 season wonders who look like absolute useless hacks unless they're in rich goal scoring form. Which means they're passengers I.E
Immobile
Zaza
Iturbe (No brains)
Krasic
Gervinho (No brains)
etc etc
Plus all the 1 season wonders that infest the BPL every Year.
Dybala looks like he has silky technique, he has vision and appears to be very confident on the ball. So when he's not in top scoring form, he's still pulling his weight comfortably.
Immobile
Zaza
Iturbe (No brains)
Krasic
Gervinho (No brains)
etc etc
Plus all the 1 season wonders that infest the BPL every Year.
Dybala looks like he has silky technique, he has vision and appears to be very confident on the ball. So when he's not in top scoring form, he's still pulling his weight comfortably.
In most cases I would agree with you. But let's take a look at our sporting director for a moment. If he and Paratici feel that he is worth at least 25 million, considering they have never spent that much in cash on a single player, they must see something.
We don't really have any other transfers of this financial magnitude from him to compare it to. In fact, the only one that I think we can is Morata, and so far, so good, I would think
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20-25 max. Let's not forget he is in his last year of his contract and played one very good season. Berardi played a very good season last year and a solid one this year but people seem to be convinced that Berardi is far inferior to Dybala. Based on what they've proved they are pretty equal.
Why does that even matter? Why do I keep seeing this.
The kid is 21 fucking years old. The fact that he has one year left means nothing. If he were 31, then you have a case.
We don't really have any other transfers of this financial magnitude from him to compare it to. In fact, the only one that I think we can is Morata, and so far, so good, I would think
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20-25 max. Let's not forget he is in his last year of his contract and played one very good season. Berardi played a very good season last year and a solid one this year but people seem to be convinced that Berardi is far inferior to Dybala. Based on what they've proved they are pretty equal.
Why does that even matter? Why do I keep seeing this.
The kid is 21 fucking years old. The fact that he has one year left means nothing. If he were 31, then you have a case.
And conversely, there are teams out there that may not want to wait and hope that he becomes a free agent.
Teams that don't want to risk waiting a year in the hope that he hits the open market will make a bid, which instantly creates a market for him.
Let me ask you this. IF he had, say 3 years left on his contract, would 20-25 million be a fair price? And if so, then aren't you downplaying his talent by using his contract status as a determining factor in his value?
If he's a 20-25 million euro player in your eyes, then I would think that would be the case regardless of how many years are left on his deal.
Teams that don't want to risk waiting a year in the hope that he hits the open market will make a bid, which instantly creates a market for him.
Let me ask you this. IF he had, say 3 years left on his contract, would 20-25 million be a fair price? And if so, then aren't you downplaying his talent by using his contract status as a determining factor in his value?
If he's a 20-25 million euro player in your eyes, then I would think that would be the case regardless of how many years are left on his deal.
To me, a stupid amount is anything over 30, and I don't care how many players from Serie B and Lega Pro they throw into the deal, as chances are those players would never see the inside of Juventus Stadium unless they were on another team or bought a ticket.
As far as cash goes, to me, 30 is the limit. And its not because I don't think he's worth that money, I'm just sick of seeing Zamparini sell other players for pennies on the dollar to other clubs and then turn around get a King's Ransom every time he dealt with Juve in the past. I just want that to be the cash limit because I want to see him choke on a big piece of Humble Pie.
As far as cash goes, to me, 30 is the limit. And its not because I don't think he's worth that money, I'm just sick of seeing Zamparini sell other players for pennies on the dollar to other clubs and then turn around get a King's Ransom every time he dealt with Juve in the past. I just want that to be the cash limit because I want to see him choke on a big piece of Humble Pie.
I think it would be a good deal given his age and potential. Jovetic went for 30 million to man city and he was riddled with injuries and was older. We bought Matri for 18 million I think from Cagliari so I think 25 million for Dybala would be a good deal.
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It would be even more brilliant if we gave Dybala 5 million euro cash to see out his contract and just take him for free though lol. That would be hilarious.
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It would be even more brilliant if we gave Dybala 5 million euro cash to see out his contract and just take him for free though lol. That would be hilarious.
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